The second round with the UnderCurrent, The $6,500 expearment gets better

woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Well got the other room done switched out the Rubbermaid cans for tough totes and that was worth the $113.00 to do it. Know anyone who can use 9 garbage cans with holes in both sides LOL, I got more cans boxes and pails with holes in them, it's kind of funny, I'll take a pix some time of my growing grave yard.

Moved the ballast, chiller, fans (except 1) and air pump outside. I just flipped the girls yesterday so were on our way for 9 weeks. I got a feeling about this grow and think it will be the best yet. I'm running 8 Novocain (my cross that I use to call #7) and they should blow up real good. I am also running H2o2 in all my systems to see what it does. I have done a ton of research on it and it's just got to be done, so I'm doing it, I am using Zone once a week also. DM hate's the stuff for some reason???? But I do like to go my own way some times. I built 2 dog houses for all the equipment and it makes so much difference in temperature it's unreal, dropped 10 degrees and fans don't come on much. Here is the new room that had the cans in it it has 4 1000w overhead.

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UnderCurrentDWC

UnderCurrentDWC

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I bet your room feels so much different with all that hardware outside. I need to do that with my grow.
Plant's look real healthy and bushy.... and big!!, do you think you'll have an issue with crowding?

So... jealous of those big totes!
Room looks awesome man!
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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I'll have them caged in the next few days and do some trimming and twisting and bending over. I have some other large ladies in veg in the other room, they will be very big also. It's a nice problem to have after some not so great grows. Having the equipment outside is great but I like to see my equipment often so now I need to go outside, but it is worth it.
 
UnderCurrentDWC

UnderCurrentDWC

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Right on!.... I'm gonna' try a few cages this go round. Have you seen gettogrows' Uc thread over on Icmag dot com? 3+lbs/per!!! crazyness!!!!

So how many gallons does that new system run on?
I'm guessing 180
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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UnderCurrentDWC said:
Right on!.... I'm gonna' try a few cages this go round. Have you seen gettogrows' Uc thread over on Icmag dot com? 3+lbs/per!!! crazyness!!!!

So how many gallons does that new system run on?
I'm guessing 180
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yup bang on the totes are 27 gal but with air space 20 each is real close. There going crazy I went in with the weed eater and took a pile of the bottoms, some one mention crowding LOL.
I fence some of my property every year (30 acres) with sheep red top fencing ( smaller at the bottom than at the top so great for plants, keeps my dogs safe too. So I can go out and cut any size I need as long as it's not more that 4 feet high.

I was on the hunt for some new seeds and picked up Barneys Farm fem. Pineapple and sensi seeds Hundu Kush. Got them germinating as soon as I got home with them. It's kind of nice to go shopping for seeds and not need to mail out.

I think I will stick some foam on top to gain more root room. I think putting the holes for the pipe in the middle of the totes was a mistake, should have offset them like I was originality going to do. Another set of containers ruined, I can pack my vinyl record collection in them . After this grow will re configure with new totes.

I am growing 4 different strains in the UC, uber kush, double kush, Novocain and Blue Storm and a new cross in the jumbo called Herijuana/Coco kush,it's going to get busy here.

I went out and bought 50 feet 3/8 copper refrigeration tubing and am going to try using that as a chiller coil. I don't think that the copper will react that much with the nutrients as they are at a very low PPM, the SS coils are 1/4 and killing my pumps, so a little bigger more flow and at worst my plants turn a nice blue. Copper does that. We will see not all my ideas have panned out but it's fun trying and keeps me busy.

The plants in the new totes are the best I have grown in the RDWC to-date, just got to make it through the next 8 weeks.

How was your vacation LF? did you toss the plants when you got home? Sorry to here you got issues with gunk of some sort.
 
UnderCurrentDWC

UnderCurrentDWC

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woodsmaneh! said:
I think putting the holes for the pipe in the middle of the totes was a mistake, should have offset them like I was originality going to do.
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Yeah I hear you on that.
Next time I change grow tubs I'm going with insulated ice chests (igloo) and placing the uniseals at opposite sides of the longer parts of the ice chest, better current interaction with the roots.
I was thinking I could cut the pvc (between grow sites) longer and as the plants need more room I could expand the length between grow sites by just pushing more of the pvc out of the uniseal, anyway that's an idea I have floating around, I might just rearrange the room to be stationary @ 65" o/c and run bare bulb vert. I noticed my buds get super dense when surrounded by 2400w of bare bulb.

woodsmaneh! said:
I went out and bought 50 feet 3/8 copper refrigeration tubing and am going to try using that as a chiller coil. I don't think that the copper will react that much with the nutrients as they are at a very low PPM, the SS coils are 1/4 and killing my pumps, so a little bigger more flow and at worst my plants turn a nice blue. Copper does that.
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1/4"? lol, yeah not much flow through that.
I think my chiller is 3/4" ss, and your 1hp chiller must be 1" or more ss tubing?
From what i've read copper is a no no in dwc, but I would like to see some blue plants. lol.


 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Well went down to have a look at the new system and heard some strange noises, opened the lids in the last 2 totes and there is about 4" of water, should be 12". The plants in 1 week have stuffed the pipes, if it was offset like I was going to do this would not have happened so soon. Will move them to the jumbo and flip the room. The other plants in the uc are big enough to flip but the ones in the jumbo are still small. So ordered new 3" Uniseals and will pick up new totes for them. O well.... that's what can happen when experimenting. The totes have 1 1/2 Uniseals from another project, my bad.

I looked at coolers at Wallmart and they were 12 gallon and cost 25$ on sale.??? things are not cheap up here.
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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I have been busy but here is what the Jumbo room looks like at week 3, very pleased to say the least. Using DM and Big Bud, one more week of BB than a 1 week rest than start the Overdrive for 4 weeks. This is one of those grows you dream about.......where everything is going your way, for a change... :mrgreen:

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cerberus

cerberus

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yeah.. thats really gotta suck huh? i mean they are OBVIOUSLY growing way way to fast.. and those bud sites look to plentyful too.. yeah its like, dang man and i thought this was going to be the one that goes "ok" for you..

but i guess another home run derby aint bad either..


cuz

WHOLLY FUCK!

dang meng yo be kill'n it.
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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Looking banger dude! Well, I did toss my plants when I got home. Just hit them too hard with sterlizers and chemicals, I think they got post tramautic stress syndrom and they were not going to come out of it. Super pissed that the UC didn't work out how I planned. I threw a bunch of fresh genetics (super skunk and slee skunk, and some C99 plants I had growing from seed into coco and just threw them into flower about a week ago.

Man, coco is soooo easy. Just get the ph kind of right, and water the suckers and the plants look beautiful. I have a bunch of c-99 and channel+ clones that I am going to get into DWC buckets and get them to start vegging for another UC round in about 8 weeks.

I had one idea however... has anyone ever done a DWC ebb and flow? I'm thinking that the roots don't really need that much water..I mean, look at DWC or UC in flower.. half the root mass isn't even touching the water so I was thinking that maybe I'll have a DWC bucket set up and just flood the buckets once every two hours for about 10 minutes. Any thoughts? At least I won't have to worry about air stones or anything and my thought is that the roots will stay plenty wet.
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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legallyflying said:
Looking banger dude! Well, I did toss my plants when I got home. Just hit them too hard with sterlizers and chemicals, I think they got post tramautic stress syndrom and they were not going to come out of it. Super pissed that the UC didn't work out how I planned. I threw a bunch of fresh genetics (super skunk and slee skunk, and some C99 plants I had growing from seed into coco and just threw them into flower about a week ago.

Man, coco is soooo easy. Just get the ph kind of right, and water the suckers and the plants look beautiful. I have a bunch of c-99 and channel+ clones that I am going to get into DWC buckets and get them to start vegging for another UC round in about 8 weeks.

I had one idea however... has anyone ever done a DWC ebb and flow? I'm thinking that the roots don't really need that much water..I mean, look at DWC or UC in flower.. half the root mass isn't even touching the water so I was thinking that maybe I'll have a DWC bucket set up and just flood the buckets once every two hours for about 10 minutes. Any thoughts? At least I won't have to worry about air stones or anything and my thought is that the roots will stay plenty wet.
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I noticed Jackmayoffer has gone back to dirt, hummmmmm. Have you checked out what he is doing now? He kind of reminds me of myself always looking for an edge and changing. It kind of freeked a bunch of people out when he started to switch. I would love to go back to dirt if I could get my yield up

I think you may need to flood them more often than 2 hr. why not just put a drip line on top, you could put a cinder block under each pail with a plant but leave the res on the floor, that way the pails will drain to the res and you have a constant drip to feed them? You may need more than 1 drip tube for sure.

Sounds like your thinking more of thin film method of growing? I have a buddy who does flood and drain with rockwool and he does very well. He has a 4x8 flood table at an angle and just has a constant flow from top to bottom. Kind of like how TK does his clones in cubes.


I feel your fustration, that's the down side of the UC. I would go back to my dirt in a heart beat if they grew real big. I am going to buy a couple big air pots and toss them in the room and see how big I can grow them. If I can get 1/2 to 3/4 I'm back to dirt. I think the key with the UC is to make sure you got a real good root system sticking out before you flip to flower. That's what I did to get the monsters I got now I veged the shit out of them in the UC before flipping. As you can see if I get to the end I get a home run like Jack and TexasKidd

I'm in seed test mode for the next 2 months, I got from Sannies NYCD/Coco Kush, Selene and Herijuana IBL and from Barrnies Farm Red Cheery Berry http://barneysfarm.com/?l=en&i=30 and Pineapple chunk http://barneysfarm.com/?l=en&i=20

Going to be busy, busy busy,

Here are the ladies in my Jumbo at week 5, still looking good. This is why I went with the UC in the first place, now can I do it again is the question. I should have whacked them more a couple weeks ago with the chain saw LOL

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BigBuddahCheese

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Take some of that 6500 and buy a spell checker so 'experiment' is spelled correctly next time. Other then that, looks good.

Also love the gas no pest strip next to the buds you are ingesting or others are.. mmm maybe not good.
 
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