bob harris
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I've got that too..but what's the point of posting it? You can't tell quality from a photo, only "curb appeal"
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I've got that too..but what's the point of posting it? You can't tell quality from a photo, only "curb appeal"
Capt. Stickyfingers
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You a cop Bob? Are these pics of people's rooms that you've raided? That's the lamest excuse for not showing buds I've ever heard. Makes me question your credibility.
bob harris
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It's not going to catch fire..the whole thing was wired beyond code before I plugged anything in. 3, 45amp circuits in that room.
And I have NEVER said every stoner is a criminal, Nor have I ever said I want anyone to go to jail. You have to twist my words and intentions, or you'd have nothing to rant about.
bob harris
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See, there ya go..nice set up...must not be his. If I post pics of plants and bud, you'll say the same thing..but here..
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Capt. Stickyfingers
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No, not "nice setup must not be his." That would imply that I don't believe it's yours because of how out of this world awesome it is. Not the case, Bob. It doesn't look bad, except for that outlet. What strains are those?
bob harris
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Every pic but one is an unkown sativa. Seeds came from Viet Nam, a friend brought them back. Could be Thai, cambodian, who knows. But it's a land race Sativa. Tests out on average at 21%thc, 3% thcv, and pretty much nothing for cbd/cbn...
The one photo with the plant with more Indica looking leaves is "blue god" a friend was having trouble getting any results with the strain, and asked if I'd grow out one of his clones. I did, had decent results, (but Personally didn't care for the strain)...seems you just can't feed that strain, anything burns it up...he's backed way down on feeding, and now gets much better results.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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Interesting. From the Vietnam war, or recent travels? Also, where do you get your testing done?
Timmahh
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basically no cbn/cbd? i would think its of a newer variety... the shit that was grown from Nam links back in the 70s would put you on the couch, not on the floor laughing your ass off until you pissed (low cbd, high thc ), thats what came from Panama and Columbia.
I see i need to dot my I s and cross my T's to make this understandable for the one lost boy.
Weed from Nam back in the 70s was known to be HIGH Couchlock weed. deep thinking weed. Good forgetting weed. while Lumbos ect, were known for that upbeat high, with the giggles and a burst of energy from them.....
I see i need to dot my I s and cross my T's to make this understandable for the one lost boy.
Weed from Nam back in the 70s was known to be HIGH Couchlock weed. deep thinking weed. Good forgetting weed. while Lumbos ect, were known for that upbeat high, with the giggles and a burst of energy from them.....
bob harris
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Your such an idiot...thai stick put you on the couch? Moron..Please..look at a globe...put your finger on Panama and follow the the little parallel lines around the globe to, holy crap VIET NAM.
High thc/ thcv strains are all over the world...any country that is Equatorial. Go 10 degrees north and south(maybe a little more) of the equator, color in that area..and any land mass in it will probably have some mighty fine sativa.
SketchyGrower
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your awful aggressive for a pot smoker....
bob harris
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Well gee capt'n since I'm a cop I get my testing done at the crime lab....
bob harris
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Me? I'm a med user...not a pot smoker...not that I haven't been a pot smoker in the past. But you see, how cannabis works in me is different now. When I was healthy..it got me high...With PD..it just gets me back to myself.
Timmahh
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im not talking about location of grow, im talking about CBD/TCH relationship to each other bob, regional aspect has little to do with this. I have had smoke from Columbia (different strains) back in the day, that one type would make you laugh at a tv that wasnt on, and the next would put your ass on the couch in a stooper for a few hrs.
both grown by the same guy, in the same outdoor area. He got his seeds Directly from the master grower in Columbia.... so you see bob. the region didnt matter, it was the DNA that produced both in the plant. both were born and grown in columbia, but neither was what was known as LumboGold back then. So your point is lost in the bull shit you post up.....
DNA/Genetics if the first part of CBD/THC relationship. Over the last 30 yrs, CBDs and CBNs have been breed OUT of many strains, to not counteract the TCH high. the more TCH, and less CBD/CBN the more trippy, paranoid type of effect. the more CBD/CBN the more they counteract the TCH. thus removing the paranoia or lowering its effect dramatically.
any Nam weed I was ever aware of was very sedative, while MOST columbian was killer giggle weed.
in 85, i got some Hawaiian Blue. two one hits of this shit would lock you down for up to 3 hrs. I also got some panama red the same time(about the last i ever seen it around the area), that with 4 good hits, you were rolling on the floor, but if you hit it 8 times you would be just fucking paranoid like a mofo. Same smoke, different titration. these were both LR sativas, but vastly different strains with vastly different phenoms.
the point i was making above (which is easy to understand) is your assessment that Location alone determines THC/CBD/CBN levels alone is lost it ignorance.
both grown by the same guy, in the same outdoor area. He got his seeds Directly from the master grower in Columbia.... so you see bob. the region didnt matter, it was the DNA that produced both in the plant. both were born and grown in columbia, but neither was what was known as LumboGold back then. So your point is lost in the bull shit you post up.....
DNA/Genetics if the first part of CBD/THC relationship. Over the last 30 yrs, CBDs and CBNs have been breed OUT of many strains, to not counteract the TCH high. the more TCH, and less CBD/CBN the more trippy, paranoid type of effect. the more CBD/CBN the more they counteract the TCH. thus removing the paranoia or lowering its effect dramatically.
any Nam weed I was ever aware of was very sedative, while MOST columbian was killer giggle weed.
in 85, i got some Hawaiian Blue. two one hits of this shit would lock you down for up to 3 hrs. I also got some panama red the same time(about the last i ever seen it around the area), that with 4 good hits, you were rolling on the floor, but if you hit it 8 times you would be just fucking paranoid like a mofo. Same smoke, different titration. these were both LR sativas, but vastly different strains with vastly different phenoms.
the point i was making above (which is easy to understand) is your assessment that Location alone determines THC/CBD/CBN levels alone is lost it ignorance.
SketchyGrower
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So, you don't get mellow at all?!?! I have crohn's disease shit is unbearable(at times) I smoke, I mellow and pain is subsided..... So, It's just odd to here someone be so negative and still medicate on a daily bases......
st0wandgrow
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Timmah, just because a strain was grown in Columbia, does not mean it originated there.
I grow several different strains right here in Michigan. None of them are native to Michigan.
bob harris
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Sure, if I smoke enough I get mellow...but i don't medicate every day, I medicate on "off" days, when the traditional PD meds fall short. Nor do I have pain...I have spasm, tremors, muscle rigidity, fatigue, muscle atrophy, and reduced autonomic nerve response (I stand up..my brain never gets the message to my body..my blood pressure drops 40 points..I fall down if I'm not prepared...normal stands up..brain has relayed that message already, heart rate increase, blood vessels and artery's constrict slightly...no sudden drop in BP all's well.)
And yes, cannabis helps with all of those symptoms...at Least sativas with High Thc and Thcv values.
THCV is a regulator..it actually regulates many brain chemicals..that's why it's important in cannabis for treating neurological disorders.
st0wandgrow
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Right, and those genetics were formed over thousands of years through exposure to certain environmental factors. Land race sativas that ORIGINATED near equatorial regions became what they are due to where they came from.
Your example of your buddy growing two strains means nothing just because he happened to grow them in Columbia. I could grow those same two plants here in Michigan.
I think you missed bobs point.
bob harris
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No, you specifically said back in the day the good stuff came from Panama and Cambodia..That's about as clearly as one CAN specify location. Now that you have followed that latitude lines to Viet Nam.. The conversation was about origin of genetics/. An now that you have been proven a fool...you want to say it has nothing to do with the original argument..because that's what you do...
Equatorial strains are the only land race sources for thcv in cannabis..That was the discussion..Good sativas, and good sativas have thcv. Sure you can grow them on the fucking moon if you want...but their origins remain the same. So if the guy planted some indica at the equator..yes, it would still be an Indica...And yes..if he let a Sativa over rippen..it would start to develop a "sleepy' effect...but you are simply trying to change the discussion from its original context.....because you are wrong.
Timmahh
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he didnt grow them in columbia, they were grown here in the state in the 80s/90s.
but it took Many generations to get those traits into those specific genetics. when the plant started being manipulated via cross breeding, genetic breeding and now DNA sequencing, you can frankenstien any number of options and regions they are grown in are a mute point.
the only time it would remain faithfully true to form is if you can find the old land race from a perticular region that hasnt been genetically rapped over the last 40 yrs.
I said, (and yes bob, so your simple thought processes could understand it, i went up and edited my post) around here, Nam weed was more CBD laden, then not. IE, it put you down and numb. where Columbian was more exicitable giggle weed, but that does not mean (which i have been clear) they effect CBD/THC ratios. as Grow noted, it took along time for the genetics to adapt to their enviroment, just as we humans have, over our evolution. but today, in most Commerical meds, you basically ONLY find genetically mutated and modified smoke.
You just cant go find True Columbian Gold unless you know the columbians the grew it back then. same with Afgan, Thai weed, or Nam smoke.
CBDs have been breed out over the last 30 yrs to get more trippy THC Laden weed, when the real trippy weed (Lumbo Golds ect) could no longer be found due to the harsh burning of fields and spraying of paraquat and agent orange over the fields by the US military in the effort to stamp out the coming competition for the pharmaceutical campaign the US was just embarking on with the introduction of Ritalin.
but it took Many generations to get those traits into those specific genetics. when the plant started being manipulated via cross breeding, genetic breeding and now DNA sequencing, you can frankenstien any number of options and regions they are grown in are a mute point.
the only time it would remain faithfully true to form is if you can find the old land race from a perticular region that hasnt been genetically rapped over the last 40 yrs.
I said, (and yes bob, so your simple thought processes could understand it, i went up and edited my post) around here, Nam weed was more CBD laden, then not. IE, it put you down and numb. where Columbian was more exicitable giggle weed, but that does not mean (which i have been clear) they effect CBD/THC ratios. as Grow noted, it took along time for the genetics to adapt to their enviroment, just as we humans have, over our evolution. but today, in most Commerical meds, you basically ONLY find genetically mutated and modified smoke.
You just cant go find True Columbian Gold unless you know the columbians the grew it back then. same with Afgan, Thai weed, or Nam smoke.
CBDs have been breed out over the last 30 yrs to get more trippy THC Laden weed, when the real trippy weed (Lumbo Golds ect) could no longer be found due to the harsh burning of fields and spraying of paraquat and agent orange over the fields by the US military in the effort to stamp out the coming competition for the pharmaceutical campaign the US was just embarking on with the introduction of Ritalin.