Tops for Toys

blayzed76

Member
Also BTW you can only transport a plant if you are moving otherwise the law states that you have to start from seed and that the seeds have to come from within az so by getting you subcool seeds from azsc....
Hmm, do me a favor, go find that statute in the AMMA or within AZDHS's site and copy it here, ive read over every inch of prop 203, AZDHS rules etc. several times and this is the FIRST time I have seen anyone take that interpretation from it. As far as seeds coming from Arizona, once you have the seed, clone, meds, etc in your hand as long as you have a card at that point it matters not where it came from, at least in court anyways. Doesn't matter what LEO's and court officials "think" it only matters what they can "prove". A patient from California could have brought it to you, which is 100% legal on a state level (don't bother to point out the obvious that crossing state lines violates fed jurisdiction because duh, the whole MMJ movement does)
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
lets all take a deep breath(hopefully full of pot smoke) and relax. to be honest i personally dont care for azcs and how they operate, but they are providing a necessary service for many patients in AZ. sometimes we as growers dont realize that not everyone has the time, resources, effort, knowledge or interest to grow their own medicine. i personally love growing and do not understand when patients dont grow their own, but that is their decision. so long as AZCS does not impede upon my cultivation rights, why should i have a problem with them. frankly if you look at it objectively they add a lot to the industry in AZ. there are all levels of patients some need assistance and others are 100% independent like myself. if there was no need for azcs to provide what it does then they would have shut down a long time ago. now i dont know if they are truely about their members or about the money, but there is nothing forcing people to join them and there are many alternatives.
on another note it seems that they are somewhat sensitive to the grumblings from the community and they are doing something positive with this toy drive. even if it is a publicity stunt, so fucking what, poor kids will get toys when they otherwise wouldnt and patients will get clones or medicine, and azcs is gonna foot the bill for the whole thing. so its not like this is free for them.
Cannabis users have always been a very diverse group and because of this we have always squabbled amongst ourselves. we must not forget that there is a greater enemy lurking waiting to shut us all down as soon as they can. we need community awareness now more than ever to start forming public opinion and dispelling the propaganda put out by the anti mmj lobby. lets stop this childish bullshit and start fostering a community where we can stand together on the issues and protect the program which makes us all on the same team.
 

blayzed76

Member
Hey Blayzed76

Read up here - A guide for you - http://www.keytlaw.com/az/entities/nonprofits.htm

Help you understand non profits in Arizona A little more...

In my eyes and MOST others AZCS is a For Profit business..
Don't need to, I understand just fine....and yeah as Bill said about "keytlaw" ROTFLMAO...So what you are saying is when you study law, you dont use law libraries and such, you just read up what an advertising attorney says :) Yep I apparently can't argue with your knowledge, wonder how that argument would play to a judge "I looked it up on attorney Richard Keyt's website and he said my paperwork was in order" lol (I'm not saying Keyts info is wrong either, I dunno cause i didn't read it, but if you want to argue law use the Law library, not another attorney)

Ignorance is not a defense in court.
 

phxfire

New Member
Your not very quick huh??

if someone wants to donate a toy to PCH toy drive and I feel like donating them a gram or two or some clones, there is NO EXCHANGE AS I DO NOT RECEIVE THE TOYS, PCH does. I have no "gain" only a "loss" or "charitable giving" in our case gets counted at the end of the quarter.

The LAW as you put it has been into our locations as have the Fed Marshals (unrelated), no problems and no worries, in fact I can happily put you in touch with the acting lieutenant for the local PD so you can address your concerns to him if you'd like.

@ phxfire here is the LAW, NOT what you think it is, but the real law, read carefully...
http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/rules/index.htm#rules
36-2806. Registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensaries; requirements

(Caution: 1998 Prop. 105 applies)


A. A registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary shall be operated on a not-for-profit basis. The bylaws of a registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary shall contain such provisions relative to the disposition of revenues and receipts to establish and maintain its nonprofit character. A registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary need not be recognized as tax-exempt by the internal revenue service and is not required to incorporate pursuant to title 10, chapter 19, article 1.

we are incorporated AND we own a C-3, even though we don't have to ;)

TRY AGAIN ;)


OK...

Maybe you should tell your BUDDY Blayzed76... That AZCS is NOT a Non profit recognized by the IRS....
 

MurshDawg

Active Member
lets all take a deep breath(hopefully full of pot smoke) and relax. to be honest i personally dont care for azcs and how they operate, but they are providing a necessary service for many patients in AZ. sometimes we as growers dont realize that not everyone has the time, resources, effort, knowledge or interest to grow their own medicine. i personally love growing and do not understand when patients dont grow their own, but that is their decision. so long as AZCS does not impede upon my cultivation rights, why should i have a problem with them. frankly if you look at it objectively they add a lot to the industry in AZ. there are all levels of patients some need assistance and others are 100% independent like myself. if there was no need for azcs to provide what it does then they would have shut down a long time ago. now i dont know if they are truely about their members or about the money, but there is nothing forcing people to join them and there are many alternatives.
on another note it seems that they are somewhat sensitive to the grumblings from the community and they are doing something positive with this toy drive. even if it is a publicity stunt, so fucking what, poor kids will get toys when they otherwise wouldnt and patients will get clones or medicine, and azcs is gonna foot the bill for the whole thing. so its not like this is free for them.
Cannabis users have always been a very diverse group and because of this we have always squabbled amongst ourselves. we must not forget that there is a greater enemy lurking waiting to shut us all down as soon as they can. we need community awareness now more than ever to start forming public opinion and dispelling the propaganda put out by the anti mmj lobby. lets stop this childish bullshit and start fostering a community where we can stand together on the issues and protect the program which makes us all on the same team.
With that being said. I wonder when Bill and the gang will help this 'community' have a fair mmj law? I do not on azcs or Allan Sobol or any other club for that matter. I am just saying it's hard to ask solidarity from everyone when the current law promotes inequity. I would sooner spend all my hard money @ azcs if I knew for a fact that they were doing everything possible to help repeal the 25 mile rule. The only thing you will get out of them is a "good luck"; no commitment to help correct this fatal legal flaw, no leadership in the community, just a smile from a bud tender while he packages up your 1/8th. I have sat back in the audience and listened for Allan Sobols and Bill's call for unity in the mmj community. All I got to say is that it's easier for people to stand behind someone when the people know that someone is standing up for them. You want to be the leaders? Man up and do what's right instead of what's profitable and help repeal the 25 mile rule, please.
 

phxfire

New Member
Wait until tax time? Really is that the best you can come up with at this point?


Back to the thread topic, if anyone would like to donate you can find our locations on google/facebook etc.
Seems like everything is on the DOWN LOW....

I can only look at public records and go from there... I do NOT care about what you tell folks...

Explain your Business Model and How it is Legal... Because you just claimed you are operating LIKE a dispensary....
 

phxfire

New Member
Don't need to, I understand just fine....and yeah as Bill said about "keytlaw" ROTFLMAO...So what you are saying is when you study law, you dont use law libraries and such, you just read up what an advertising attorney says :) Yep I apparently can't argue with your knowledge, wonder how that argument would play to a judge "I looked it up on attorney Richard Keyt's website and he said my paperwork was in order" lol (I'm not saying Keyts info is wrong either, I dunno cause i didn't read it, but if you want to argue law use the Law library, not another attorney)

Ignorance is not a defense in court.
I figured you could use a reference....

Where do you open law books???

I go down to Phx Community College library anytime I need to review law books... Let me guess you have your own library....

Another great place to study the laws MATE!! - http://www.azleg.gov/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp


PS
An organization that bashes people that oppose their core fundamentals is a weak organization.... What a waste of time!!
 

blayzed76

Member
OK...

Maybe you should tell your BUDDY Blayzed76... That AZCS is NOT a Non profit recognized by the IRS....
I never mentioned the IRS once, all I stated was AZCS is a non profit AZ business, and it is...just cause u dont THINK so doesn't mean shit
 

phxfire

New Member
The LAW as you put it has been into our locations as have the Fed Marshals (unrelated), no problems and no worries, in fact I can happily put you in touch with the acting lieutenant for the local PD so you can address your concerns to him if you'd like.
A federal officer was in your culivation building???

I call BULL SHIT!!!


@Bill
I want to hear it from you when I ask a question... Not some follower...

Instead of BASHING back.. Be professional and lets talk...

From the beginning I have neutral until the BS started.. Numerous patients complaining and shit like that...

At the end of the day we all want the legalization of a plant and when are we all going to SEE Eye to Eye...

I believe if your followers continue to DEFEND AZCS in the manner in which they do you and your followers will come to an end... Word of mouth is the single thing an organization can not buy... So if you are a wise business man you would reason with the patients that are talking SHIT... Maybe find out why folks do not like AZCS... And address the problems like a business professional.

How does your organization handle situations like this?

Explain ??
 

AZCS Bryan

Active Member
Seems like everything is on the DOWN LOW....
ok?

I can only look at public records and go from there... I do NOT care about what you tell folks...

Explain your Business Model and How it is Legal... Because you just claimed you are operating LIKE a dispensary....
Not sure why your directing this at me, as I didn't claim anything. As far as explaining our Business Model, take a walk over to our forums, its been explained there plenty of times. Other than that, if you would like to stop by our El Mirage facility I would love to explain it in person.
 

phxfire

New Member
ok?



Not sure why your directing this at me, as I didn't claim anything. As far as explaining our Business Model, take a walk over to our forums, its been explained there plenty of times. Other than that, if you would like to stop by our El Mirage facility I would love to explain it in person.
Your supporters are making CLaims...

Isn't Blayzed76 a MOD on AZCS Forums??

Looks like folks are fired up !!!

Beautiful Day today!
 

blayzed76

Member
Oh and considering my roommate and brother in law are both deputy sheriffs here in Arizona, and my main contact in this industry as far as the law here is an ex federal narcotics officer and member of leap (look up Jay Fleming pal) I dont believe i need your links to the A.R.S. I have the A.R.S. book right next to my DANK 2.0 ;) just saying.

you dont know me and only reason i came here was the bashing of a friend of mine so maybe this "An organization that bashes people that oppose their core fundamentals is a weak organization.... What a waste of time!" ...yeah maybe practice what you preach....
 

blayzed76

Member
for the record I have been smiling the whole time, only thing fired up here is my bowl :) bank on that

I did just recently become sort of a mod. i moderate one sub-forum lol...not exactly a top dawg moderator lol
 

phxfire

New Member
Oh and considering my roommate and brother in law are both deputy sheriffs here in Arizona, and my main contact in this industry as far as the law here is an ex federal narcotics officer and member of leap (look up Jay Fleming pal) I dont believe i need your links to the A.R.S. I have the A.R.S. book right next to my DANK 2.0 ;) just saying.

you dont know me and only reason i came here was the bashing of a friend of mine so maybe this "An organization that bashes people that oppose their core fundamentals is a weak organization.... What a waste of time!" ...yeah maybe practice what you preach....
Knowing a Deputy sheriff does not mean SHIT to me... Does NOT mean they know the laws nor does it mean they follow them...

I have wear pink in the tents and do not plan to go back anytime soon... GOOD Luck !!!

Just a Thought -
I had a thought of YOU and your Deputy... Pink Parties?
 

phxfire

New Member
for the record I have been smiling the whole time, only thing fired up here is my bowl :) bank on that

I did just recently become sort of a mod. i moderate one sub-forum lol...not exactly a top dawg moderator lol
At home right? With your deputy roommate!

You are such a KISS ass.. I can tell with out even KNOWing you!
 

blayzed76

Member
Knowing a Deputy sheriff does not mean SHIT to me... Does NOT mean they know the laws nor does it mean they follow them...

I have wear pink in the tents and do not plan to go back anytime soon... GOOD Luck !!!

Just a Thought -
I had a thought of YOU and your Deputy... Pink Parties?
lol, wrong county, thats just your counties corrupt ass sheriff.
 

phxfire

New Member
nah roomy is at work, but yeah im home. thats what disabled people do, they stay home (for the most part)
Not all disabled folks just some... I can not comment on your condition but I can tell you have a SHIT ton of time!!!

I am at work!!! Wish I was disabled!

And Collected

SSI
SNAP
and any other state or federal money I could sponge!!
 
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