WW3 "USA,Europe, Canada" versus "China,Russia, Iran, Syria, Korea"

[unohu69]

In america its not what you know, its WHO you know. thats the biggest pro of going to college. spend time partying with the rich, and youll be rich. if you just go there expecting to actually learn something, then youve never been to a library....

 

[NLXSK1]

nlxsk1 is absolutely .....wrong. i geuss you dont read the paper or watch the news...ever. Wall street runs this country not the government ,nor anyone elected has any power without the the backing of wall street. i take it u never went to college and studied multicultural affairs. and if u truly believe if u work hard u can make it then they got u good. oh yeah its not obAma have u noticed his staff is all from the financial sector. and bush sighned in to law the majority of the changes that r going on in the economy,but like most sheep u blame the person who is in office now like if u change that everything will change. if u believe that ur a sucker.

Yeah, I guess if I wasted my time taking multi-cultural affairs in college I wouldnt have much skill to live on and to make a living. Probably would have to be a community organizer or something...

I blame the person in office because he is fucking everything up. He has no business background nor experience and he didnt bother hiring anyone who really did either. It is no surprise that the economy is in the tank.

 

[NLXSK1]

Simply not true. Not everyone has access to capital or to the education to make it work. There are shining examples of people who raise themselves up, many in fact. These are exceptional people. Opportunities of which you speak are not available to most. There will always be haves and have-nots, the elite and the lessor among us.

Everyone has access to an education. It does not necessarily require capital to make a fortune in this country. You need a good idea and a work ethic but you can make it happen. Free education and the right to work hard are available to all people.

 

[NLXSK1]

nlxsk1 is absolutely .....wrong. i geuss you dont read the paper or watch the news...ever. Wall street runs this country not the government ,nor anyone elected has any power without the the backing of wall street. i take it u never went to college and studied multicultural affairs. and if u truly believe if u work hard u can make it then they got u good. oh yeah its not obAma have u noticed his staff is all from the financial sector. and bush sighned in to law the majority of the changes that r going on in the economy,but like most sheep u blame the person who is in office now like if u change that everything will change. if u believe that ur a sucker.

I guess you watch the news too much...

 

[Coals]

America is the most mobile country on the planet in terms of your ability to change class. If you make use of your free education and work hard you can make a decent living in this country. If that is not enough you can start and run a business and make as much as you want (well, Obama wants to change that) but it remains true.

The only person keeping you down in America is you...

I think most people just complain because it isnt easy.

Just keep telling yourself that, while you polish your rose coloured glasses and drink your Fox labeled kool aid and you will die a very happy man.

 

[NLXSK1]

Just keep telling yourself that, while you polish your rose coloured glasses and drink your Fox labeled kool aid and you will die a very happy man.

I dont need to keep telling myself that, I am living it.

Let me ask you something Coals... How hard is it to get into that 1% do you think? People making $343,000 are in that 1%.

How much money do you need to be happy?

Almost anyone in America has the opportunity to make enough money to be happy if they work hard enough at it.

Show me how the rich are preventing you from becoming a doctor or lawyer and making a good living. Show me how the rich are preventing you from starting a small business.

I keep hearing this chant that moving up in America is not possible but yet I see people moving up every day. I just dont see the people waiting around for the government to make them rich getting anywhere but more dependent upon that same government.

 

[Coals]

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Show me how the rich are preventing you from becoming a doctor or lawyer and making a good living. Show me how the rich are preventing you from starting a small business.

Its not polite to put words into peoples mouths.

Look, if you can't see that the game is rigged, I can't force you to. Its all right there in front of you. They tell you we practice Capitalism. We do not. They say we live in a Democracy. We do not. Our money system is broken at the base. Our government has been purchased and re-sold time and time again. We are dragged around the world fighting wars to spread "democracy and freedom" when really we just spread usury and enslavement. The harder you work the more money you will earn which just means you have more to lose to inflation. We live in a Plutocratic monopoly. A Bannana Republic.

 

[beardo]

I dont need to keep telling myself that, I am living it.

Let me ask you something Coals... How hard is it to get into that 1% do you think? People making $343,000 are in that 1%.

How much money do you need to be happy?

Almost anyone in America has the opportunity to make enough money to be happy if they work hard enough at it.

Show me how the rich are preventing you from becoming a doctor or lawyer and making a good living. Show me how the rich are preventing you from starting a small business.

I keep hearing this chant that moving up in America is not possible but yet I see people moving up every day. I just dont see the people waiting around for the government to make them rich getting anywhere but more dependent upon that same government.

Excessive regulations, restrictions, taxes and permits
If I want to open a burger stand and serve beer and wine I need all sorts of permits and licences and need to be in the right commercial zone and get inspected
And on top of all that my competition might recieve subsidies and breaks that I might not qualify for
If I want to buy or rent a space- or even set up a small mobile cart on public space not obstructing peoples right to travel I should be able to do so
Why cant I sell pizza out of my kitchen and have people come over to eat and turn my place into an exclusive restaurant?

 

[NLXSK1]

Its not polite to put words into peoples mouths.

Look, if you can't see that the game is rigged, I can't force you to. Its all right there in front of you. They tell you we practice Capitalism. We do not. They say we live in a Democracy. We do not. Our money system is broken at the base. Our government has been purchased and re-sold time and time again. We are dragged around the world fighting wars to spread "democracy and freedom" when really we just spread usury and enslavement. We live in a Plutocratic monopoly. A Bannana Republic.

You are right, our government has screwed up capitalism. We have subsidies, 22K pages of tax code, tariffs and embargoes, etc... There is so much legislation on business there is no possibility that it can act in a capitalistic manner. We agree on that.

Also, we do not live in a Democracy we live in a Representative Republic. Shocking I know... Been going on since the beginning.

None of that changes the fact that you can make a pretty damn good living in the USA and provide for your family as well. That is separate from what our government is doing to the economy.

Telling people they cant do anything and that they are slaves doesnt improve anything and is simply not true.

I get sick and tired of hearing that the rich are the rich and they exist just to keep us poor. Take responsibility for your own life and stop acting like a victim.

 

[sso]

its a kinda of a "free market my ass" economy.

 

[NLXSK1]

Excessive regulations, restrictions, taxes and permits
If I want to open a burger stand and serve beer and wine I need all sorts of permits and licences and need to be in the right commercial zone and get inspected
And on top of all that my competition might recieve subsidies and breaks that I might not qualify for
If I want to buy or rent a space- or even set up a small mobile cart on public space not obstructing peoples right to travel I should be able to do so
Why cant I sell pizza out of my kitchen and have people come over to eat and turn my place into an exclusive restaurant?

Yes, the government has made it HARDER to make a living. It is not easy.

I am not sure if I want to buy pizza out of your kitchen if I am not sure it has a certain level of sanitation and that the food is cooked properly.

 

[Coals]

I am not sure if I want to buy pizza out of your kitchen if I am not sure it has a certain level of sanitation and that the food is cooked properly.

if I had those concerns about a business I probably wouldn't be a customer of theirs.

 

[NLXSK1]

if I had those concerns about a business I probably wouldn't be a customer of theirs.

I am not big on regulations but some may be needed.

Restaurants are licensed by the city or county they are in and subject to local laws.

My bigger concerns focus on the federal government and how far they have overstepped their bounds.

 

[tet1953]

Everyone has access to an education. It does not necessarily require capital to make a fortune in this country. You need a good idea and a work ethic but you can make it happen. Free education and the right to work hard are available to all people.

Not everyone does have access to an education, despite what we may wish to believe. Cuts, cuts, cuts. Fewer and fewer research programs. Less money for universities and educational grants, financial aid. This, and the drying up of captial (unless you don't really need it) is what I am referring to.

 

[NLXSK1]

Not everyone does have access to an education, despite what we may wish to believe. Cuts, cuts, cuts. Fewer and fewer research programs. Less money for universities and educational grants, financial aid. This, and the drying up of captial (unless you don't really need it) is what I am referring to.

Everyone has access to a free education up to and including High School. Not every country is so liberal in their educational enrollment policies.

If you work hard enough you can obtain a scholarship to a college. And no, not everyone can get a scholarship, but being in America you are granted the Opportunity to pursue happiness, not the guarantee of happiness.

 

[tet1953]

Cripes. ok you can't or won't see my point. In many places, what you are referring to is not an education, at least not one of value.

 

[NLXSK1]

Cripes. ok you can't or won't see my point. In many places, what you are referring to is not an education, at least not one of value.

Yes, the government and teachers unions have made it that way.

I guess your point is that since government has screwed up the educational opportunities of some kids by wasting taxpayer money that somehow those same taxpayers should be indebted to pay those kids way through life in the form of entitlements. I simply disagree that the incompetence of my government requires me to pay further confiscatory taxes so the government can create and perpetuate another program that simply doesnt work.

My point is suck it up, work hard and even without a decent educational opportunity early in life you can still get a good education. GED programs, library programs, community programs. IT ISNT EASY!!!

What exactly do you want except to whine on a marijuana growing website about how unfair it is?

 

[tet1953]

Nope, my point is that for America to grow and prosper we need to invest in education, not cut it. And in infrastructure.

 

[NLXSK1]

Nope, my point is that for America to grow and prosper we need to invest in education, not cut it. And in infrastructure.

For America to grow particularly in Education we need to privatize it. They should allow charter schools to form and perform alongside public schools with the voucher system.

We are spending more money per child than any other country in the world yet have failing scores. That is because the teachers union is for the protection and promotion of teachers, not students.

Infrastructure is for the state and local governments. That is their function, not that of the federal government.

We need the federal government to stop being such a huge middleman in all our lives.

 

[unohu69]

the main problem here, is people. people have the wrong idea of what prosperity is. The majority of the WORLDS population is a materialistic, greedy, and totally corruptible.

Those in power and control regularly screw over the people for their own advantage. Because the people allow it. Simple as that. A raving mob with pitchforks and torches is just what this country needs. the provably corrupt need to be ousted, and probably executed in the town square.

Some may say that thats not right, or that wont work. I say it did for thousands of years. It wasnt that far ago when we would do something like that.
Then the federal government got way more control and domestic power over the people with the creation of the alphabet groups. right about the same time the nazis (socialist, communist, illuminati, whatever, all the same to me) started infiltrating the government. Dont think it happened? then you havent researched a damn thing ever....



Sorry, im just being a lil bitchy today about other people pissn on the little guy, kikn him down. others thinkn they are better than somone else for no other reason than they think so. money means nothing, position means nothing, lineage doesnt even mean jack shit. only who you are and what you stand for, how you treat other people (who have done nothing to you). Sick and tired of being human and stuck on this damn rock, with anyone who wishes to ignore another mans right to do as he wishes,as long as he not hurting anybody else.