i was going to use advanced nutrients big bud

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stephaniesloan

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but since i saw this on their own website i will buy something else.

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CAN I USE BIG BUD AS MY ONLY BLOOM BOOSTER OR SHOULD I USE IT WITH OTHER BLOOM BOOSTERS YOU RECOMMEND?
Big Bud can be used as a stand-alone bloom booster and you will see bigger buds as a result. On the other hand, our research indicates that using our bloom booster series (Bug Ignitor, Big Bud, Bud Candy and Overdrive) will result in even larger and more market-valued products.


so for me to get proper big buds i have to buy and use,,,

Big Bud,
Bug Ignitor,
Bud Candy,
Overdrive,

for fuck sake how much is this gonna cost.

does anybody know any tried and big bud stand alone formula.

i want to grow a few plants as big and as fast as possible but i dont want conned by a company that offers out false promises on a bottle and then basically says its good but not good enough.


http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/big_bud/big_bud_faq_nutrient_facts.php
 
Tmac4302

Tmac4302

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All they are saying is to achieve maximum results, use all their products conclusively. Which makes sense because it's their formula they created. Now, everyone can talk shit on AN, but honestly they put out some pretty good products and give pretty damn good results from what I've been able to see from it. Yes, to answer your question, you can use BB alone as the only bloom booster. Actually it's the bloom booster I prefer because of the high K to P ratio. I like more potassium in my flowering than phosphorus. Bud candy only enhances flavinoid and turpene production. Which gives more enhanced tastes and smells. Use it if you want, it's pretty good, won't increase yield or density though from what I've seen. Bud lignitor is really the only product I'm suspicious of. It's really fucking expensive and I'm not sure the results are worth it. I haven't used it so I can't tell you. Overdrive is the shit though. And extra week for my buds to get beefier and more developed? I'm in. I have used this product and can definitely see a difference without it. It's worth the money, imo. If you want my recommendation from having experience with them, pick up BB and Overdrive at the least. They're not very expensive and you get pretty good results.
 
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stephaniesloan

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Tmac4302 said:
All they are saying is to achieve maximum results, use all their products conclusively. Which makes sense because it's their formula they created. Now, everyone can talk shit on AN, but honestly they put out some pretty good products and give pretty damn good results from what I've been able to see from it. Yes, to answer your question, you can use BB alone as the only bloom booster. Actually it's the bloom booster I prefer because of the high K to P ratio. I like more potassium in my flowering than phosphorus. Bud candy only enhances flavinoid and turpene production. Which gives more enhanced tastes and smells. Use it if you want, it's pretty good, won't increase yield or density though from what I've seen. Bud lignitor is really the only product I'm suspicious of. It's really fucking expensive and I'm not sure the results are worth it. I haven't used it so I can't tell you. Overdrive is the shit though. And extra week for my buds to get beefier and more developed? I'm in. I have used this product and can definitely see a difference without it. It's worth the money, imo. If you want my recommendation from having experience with them, pick up BB and Overdrive at the least. They're not very expensive and you get pretty good results.
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thanks i will do that for my next grow which i will be starting shortly as this one finishes next friday.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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You're up against diminishing returns. Choose the cheapest good P,K source of those four and stick with it. This is a classic case where they don't tell you (and I'll make up a hypothetical but plausible scenario here) that you spend 500% to gain maybe 8% added bud mass. It would be nice if they provided details on that smarmy "our research indicates" bs line. cn
 
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stephaniesloan

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cannabineer said:
You're up against diminishing returns. Choose the cheapest good P,K source of those four and stick with it. This is a classic case where they don't tell you (and I'll make up a hypothetical but plausible scenario here) that you spend 500% to gain maybe 8% added bud mass. It would be nice if they provided details on that smarmy "our research indicates" bs line. cn
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so you say i should get an 8% increase in finished bud weight and they say 27%.

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+ WHAT CAN I COUNT ON AS REGARDS THE CROP SIZE INCREASE THAT BIG BUD GIVES ME?
Depending on your strain, growing conditions and what level you are on in our Bigger Yields System, you could see as much as 27% increase in harvest weight from Big Bud.

god if i get 8% it isnt much as it will cost me £85 for 4 litres.

so for every £1000 worth of grass is only an £80 increase.

i am not quite sure whether you use it during the entire flowering period or between certain weeks.

do you or does anybody know if liquid carboload would be better.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
stephaniesloan said:
so you say i should get an 8% increase in finished bud weight and they say 27%.

quote :

+ WHAT CAN I COUNT ON AS REGARDS THE CROP SIZE INCREASE THAT BIG BUD GIVES ME?
Depending on your strain, growing conditions and what level you are on in our Bigger Yields System, you could see as much as 27% increase in harvest weight from Big Bud.

god if i get 8% it isnt much as it will cost me £85 for 4 litres.

i am not quite sure whether you use it during the entire flowering period or between certain weeks.

do you or does anybody know if liquid carboload would be better.
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If we squeeze an eye shut and say for now that the 8% and 27% numbers are real ...
what I am saying is that if you pick one of the four products ... the one that is basically monopotassium phosphate ... you'll get 17.6 of those 27 per cent, or better. cn
 
Tmac4302

Tmac4302

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Yield is highly dependent on genetics for the most part. The 27% they talk about isn't from using BB at stand alone. It's saying using their WHOLE regiment will give you 27%. You won't find a 27% or hell, even a 10% increase in bud weight from any stand alone additive. Le sighhh... I just use BB because it has a higher K ratio to P. You don't find that a lot with stand alone bud boosters. Most of the time they overload your plants with too much phosphorus during flowering which is not what you want. Do what you want man. Just be weary that there are some straight up AN haters out there that will fill you with a load of shit like AN's advertising agents do. It's a double edged sword. The only way you will know for certain is to try it. Hell you might fall in love with what you thought you hated.
 
dimesak

dimesak

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That's all i've ever used is AN. I have no complaints what so ever, but I currently use the grandmaster level with the exception of: BFX, BI, Taran and Piranha. Good Luck!
 
dimesak

dimesak

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They both stimulate root growth, better root growth, bigger plants, fatter buds. Both are too expensive for me and you only use them twice the whole grow. 1
 
Sweet'nHeavy

Sweet'nHeavy

Member
It really depends on what you want from AN I run coco and havent really seen a big difference with running things besides bigbud and carboload to add weight during bloom. I used to run full AN but it keeps going up in price so I already know I'm going to switch my 2 part to House and Garden Coco A+B (its the same scientist left t\house and garden to make AN so their formulas are similar..imagine that..) Botanicare CALMAG (a gallons the same price as a liter of AN I only add in 1 ounce more bc its a little less concentrated) Carboload, B-52, Bigbud.

Honestly outside all the hyped up adds and bs they feed you those are all you need to grow and get some ridiculous shit. I don't believe ANs hype about their super lines and grandmaster bullshit. They do have great product I've gotten solid results, better than any other nutrients I've run but those extras (basically everything) is just a waste of time and money.
 
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KUShSOurSMOKEr

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dimesak said:
They both stimulate root growth, better root growth, bigger plants, fatter buds. Both are too expensive for me and you only use them twice the whole grow. 1
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Fasho dimesak

Foreal how bigger plants?? Do u use they every grow?

How much for a 80ml or less?
 
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kings**t

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i can tell you this about AN i used fox farm for the last 7 year and had good thing with them but since the last 3 wks with AN my plants have double
 
dimesak

dimesak

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Don't knock AN until you try it. If starting to use for the first time, I would recommend: 3 part base nutrients, voodoo juice, big bud, B-52 and of course bud candy. Hope that helps. 1
 
Tmac4302

Tmac4302

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dimesak said:
Don't knock AN until you try it. If starting to use for the first time, I would recommend: 3 part base nutrients, voodoo juice, big bud, B-52 and of course bud candy. Hope that helps. 1
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That's what I started with. 3-part, B-52, Voodoo Juice, Big Bud, Bud Candy, Overdrive, and Final Phase. It's been pretty awesome growing since I started using AN.

Here's my lady. 2 weeks into veg.
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