Conspiracy Theories

[Erniedytn]

I have seen "Loose Change" several times, but not the other 3. I will definately be looking into them. Here is a movie I want you to watch. It has a few lengthy corny TV references in it, but bear with them because it's worth it!!

Ring of Power - Parts 1-5 - Sprword.com
Ring of Power - Parts 6-10 - Sprword.com

 

[kittysecrets4u]

Thank you....I will check them out!!!

 

[kittysecrets4u]

Check out this video - it's approximately 5-7 mins long. It just goes to show you where we're at in America.....

Video on Demand | wkyc.com

 

[Erniedytn]

That's some fucked up shit. I would own that fuckin police dept if that shit happened to me.

 

[WeFallToday]

I belive the girl scouts is a conspiracie.

girl scouts were made....just to sell some companys cookies

 

[Erniedytn]

The Rothschild Dynasty

In the decades that followed it became apparent that, in order to achievetheir goal of world domination, they would have to instigate a series ofworld wars which would result in leveling of the old world in preparationfor the construction of the New World Order. This plan was outlined in graphicdetail by Albert Pike, the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Ancient andAccepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and the top Illuminist in America.In a letter to Guisseppe Mazzini dated August 15, 1871. Pike stated thatthe first world war was to be fomented in order to destroy Czarist Russia- and to place that vast land under the direct control of Illuminati agents.Russia was then to be used as a 'bogey man' to further the aimsof the Illuminati worldwide.
World War II was to be fomented through manipulation of the differencesthat existed between the German Nationalists and the Political Zionists.This was to result in an expansion of Russian influence and the establishmentof a state of Israel in Palestine.
The Third World War was planned to result form the differences stirredup by Illuminati agents between the Zionists and the Arabs. The conflictwas planned to spread worldwide. The llluminati, said the letter, plannedto "unleash the Nihilists and Atheists" and "provokea formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearlyto the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and ofthe most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defendthemselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminatethose destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned withChristianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass[directionl, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render itsadoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestationof the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view,a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movementwhich will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquoredand exterminated at the same time."

 

[Erniedytn]

They even have their own website:

Rothschild.com - Welcome to Rothschild[SIZE=-1]Rothschild.com - One of the world's leading independent investment banking organizations providing financial services to governments, corporations and ...
www.rothschild.com/ - 9k - Cached - Similar pages[/SIZE]

Rothschild has been at the centre of the world's financial markets for over 200 years.

 

[Erniedytn]

The Rothschild Bloodline


The Rothschilds and Rockefellers are only two of thirteen controlling families of the Illuminati. (52) Two Jewish families that appear to be prominent are the Oppenheims and the Oppenheimers. A. Oppenheim was situated in Cologne. The Oppenheimers were early members of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Bund der Gerechten (League of the Just) was an illuminati front run mainly by Jews who were Satanists. This Bund financed in part by the Rothschilds paid the Satanist and Mason Karl Marx to write the Communist Manefesto. The Jew Gumpel Oppenheim was in the inner circle of the Bund. His relative Heinrich Oppenheim masterminded the communist revolution of 1848 in Germany. The Communist Party’s official histories even accept the Bund as the predecessor of Communism.
The Oppenheimers apparently are close to the Rothschilds. J. Robert Oppenheimer of the CFR was exposed as a communist. Harry Oppenheimer, an international banker, is chairman of the Jewish De Beers world-wide diamond monopoly, and chairman of the Anglo-American Corp. Oppenheimers can be found in important financial positions in the U.S. They help run around 10 large foundations, including the Oppenheimer Haas Trust of NY for the care of needy Jewish children.
The Jewish Ency. Vol. 2, p. 496 indicates other Jewish families "adopted the Rothschild plan." These were the Lazards, Sterns, Speyers, and Seligmans. The Rothschild plan was to place family members in the 5 largest European capitals to coordinate their activities. One of Germany’s largest magazines is the Stern, and Ernst Stern is second-in-command of the World Bank."(53) The Jewish families that established the Frankfurt Judenloge (this was the Masonic lodge the Rothschilds belonged to in Frankfurt) included the Adlers, Speyers, Reisses, Sichels, Ellisons, Hanaus, Geisenheimers, and Goldschmidts. Isaac Hildesheim, a Jew who changed his name to Justus Hiller is credited as being the founder of this Frankfurt lodge. Michael Hess, principal of the Reformed Jewish school Philanthropin was an important figure in the lodge too, as was Dr. Ludwig Baruch (later Borne) who joined in 1808. Most of these Frankfurt Jewish Freemasons engaged in commerce.(54) Those Freemasons from 1817-1842 were the leaders of the Frankfurt Jewish community.55 A gentile Mason in Frankfurt Johann Christian Ehrmann began warning the German people that the Frankfurt Jewish Masons wanted a world republic based on humanism. In 1816 he came out with a warning pamphlet Das Judenthum in der M[aurere]y (The Jews in Masonry). A powerful ally of the world’s jewry can be seen beginning with men like Oliver Cromwell, who was considered a Mason.
Cromwell was financed by Jews, and helped the Jews gain power in England. Cromwell was willing to go along with the Jews, because he became convinced of British Israelism. Since the core of the conspiracy of power is Jewish, the attitude of those allied with it hinges on their attitude toward the Jewish people.
The religious idea that the British people are descended from the tribes of Israel doesn’t automatically place people into the camp of the conspiracy. Some of the British-Israelites realize that the so called Jewish people in general have no claim over the promises of God. For that reason, they realize that it is not the Christian duty to bow and scrape at their every move. When Christians can be arrested in Israel and abused, and Christians will not even stand up for their own kind, we can see how much hold the idea of the "Chosen Race" theory has over Christendom. Some of the British Israelites such as the Mormons, the old New England wealthy families such as make up the Order, some Masons and New Agers, and the non-Jewish members of the Priuere de Sion are collaborating with the One-World-Power. The anglican church which is run by the Freemasons is strongly British Israelistic.​

 

[Erniedytn]

It's not the government.

I bet even Bush himself doesn't know the truth... maybe his dad does.

Your absolutely right about it not being the government. They have no fuckin clue as to what is really going on, minus the Bush family. Supposedly they are descedants of the "House of Judah" and are deeply connected into the whole "Illuminati" ideology, however they are not included in the top 13 families. They are more like bishops in the big game of chess these people are playing.

I just read this whole thread in it's entirity (minus all the bullshit arguing), and it is amazing how much I have learned on this subject since I started it.

It's all going to come to a head soon, the American market is going to crash, we will be unified with Mexico and Canada, and we will have a new form of currency called the "Amero".....just like what happened in Europe. I can only hope that when and IF something happens in 2012, it will wipe these fuckers out and we will al be able to start fresh.

 

[email468]

Conspiracy Theories? Very interesting...

I'll reopen the JFK discussion by saying the way JFK's head jerks is completely compatible with a single bullet coming from behind and has been proven and demonstrated many times. LHO had plenty of time to take the shots he did and was a trained shootist (USMC). If there was a conspiracy, it would be that we do not know or recall how much training and indoctrination LHO had in the USSR prior to the JFK assassination. But that could be our seeming immunity to learning history.

Aliens - the extraterrestrial kind - not the illegal kind. My opinion is it is very likely aliens exist but very unlikely they have ever visited Earth (or at least landed and made themselves known to us). Carl Sagan does a great mathematical breakdown of the chance of life, intelligent life, etc.. in his Cosmos series. Watch it - after seeing the wonder that is our universe you may no longer feel any need to believe in hokum and flying saucers anymore. The things you can see with your own eyes are truly amazing. One other thing I'll add about aliens. You do realize that there are millions of amateur astronomers (like myself) that train their telescopes on the heavens around the world both day (for solar and some limited planetary observing) and night. In fact, many comets are still discovered by amateurs and amateurs were employed during the early space race to keep track of USSR satellites. All those telescopes (with cameras attached) have been unable to secure any photographic evidence of any kind of extra-terrestrial space craft or even anomalies. Very strong evidence that we are not being visited, at least by aliens that don't know how to cloak themselves.

as for government conspiracies - tough one since it seems a safe bet that there is a whole bunch of shit the gov't doesn't want us to know about. Like false WMD reports, illegal spying on citizens, illegally detaining "combatants" in secret prisons, torture, going to war under false pretences, etc.. oh wait! we know about those.
get what i'm saying? If not, i'll spell it out - the chances of both a long-term and wide-spread gov't conspiracy is nil given that there are too many good and honest people who would blow the whistle and/or too many bad people with an axe to grind.

Take 9/11 for example - do i believe the US gov't had anything to do with it? Fuck no and I'd dare anyone who does believe that to suggest it to someone who lost a loved one in that tragedy while within their striking distance. Do I think there is a lot about 9/11 we don't know which would be extremely embarrassing, if not outright criminal, to our government if it became common knowledge? Fuck yes. Personally, I think the biggest criminal thing related to 9/11 fostered by the US gov't. is how fucking long it is taking to rebuild and put in a suitable monument. shameful.

OK - need to catch my breath now.

 

[Erniedytn]

Take 9/11 for example - do i believe the US gov't had anything to do with it? Fuck no and I'd dare anyone who does believe that to suggest it to someone who lost a loved one in that tragedy while within their striking distance. Do I think there is a lot about 9/11 we don't know which would be extremely embarrassing, if not outright criminal, to our government if it became common knowledge? Fuck yes. Personally, I think the biggest criminal thing related to 9/11 fostered by the US gov't. is how fucking long it is taking to rebuild and put in a suitable monument. shameful.

Dude there is so much I want to say to this, but I just got off of work and now I have to leave again...I'm so damn tired. Nevertheless, you are right....it was not the government. There are higher powers at work in this world who supercede ANY countries government. Have you read anything I have posted about the Rothschilds? If not then go back a few pages and check it out. It's hard to argue with evidence that has been traced back by hundreds of people, which all leads to the same conclusion.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not sayin that 2 planes did not hit the towers, or thousands of people didn't die. It's a tragedy no matter who's fault it is. It's just very obvious to me that something else, a bigger plan, is going on here.

 

[email468]

Dude there is so much I want to say to this, but I just got off of work and now I have to leave again...I'm so damn tired. Nevertheless, you are right....it was not the government. There are higher powers at work in this world who supercede ANY countries government. Have you read anything I have posted about the Rothschilds? If not then go back a few pages and check it out. It's hard to argue with evidence that has been traced back by hundreds of people, which all leads to the same conclusion.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not sayin that 2 planes did not hit the towers, or thousands of people didn't die. It's a tragedy no matter who's fault it is. It's just very obvious to me that something else, a bigger plan, is going on here.

I am tired too but it is fun talking about shit like this... i am familiar with some of the theories and some outright evidence like the new insurance policy on the towers. i have also heard about the israeli art students shadowing the hijackers and even some text pages to "get out" to that one firm (name is slipping my mind) the morning of 9/11. So I think there is more to the story that will continue to lead out over time. But nothing as earth-shattering that would topple world governments if the whole truth was known. It would however piss a lot of people off if the media would publicize some of the misinformation they fed us about 9/11.

 

[Erniedytn]

i am familiar with some of the theories and some outright evidence like the new insurance policy on the towers. i have also heard about the israeli art students shadowing the hijackers and even some text pages to "get out" to that one firm (name is slipping my mind) the morning of 9/11.

You are familiar with these things, but yet so quick to dismiss them. Don't you want to know the thruth?

 

[email468]

You are familiar with these things, but yet so quick to dismiss them. Don't you want to know the thruth?

I don't dismiss them and believe they are likely true. My understanding of the art student incident is the art students were likely Mossad or reporting to a similar agency who were tailing the zealots who flew the planes on 9/11. Which infers Israeli intelligence may have been aware of the 9/11 plot and kept it to themselves or shared the information but was not acted on.

I think at this point you attribute to maliciousness (Israeli's knew but didn't tell/CIA knew and yet did nothing) where I tend to chalk this up to incompetence or apathy. Mostly because the former (maliciousness) implies a tight-lipped super-secret conspiracy of incredibly powerful people. While this is certainly possible, it is insulated from examination of evidence by the fact that it is super-secret! This is the earmark of the conspiracy theory.

Whereas the latter (incompetence) has many examples both current and ancient. In fact, I would say history is partially the story of humankind's incompetence. I mean the US government couldn't even keep a blow-job secret.

I apologize if my assumptions about where you are coming from are mistaken. So feel free to redirect the point elsewhere if I missed it.

 

[Erniedytn]

I think at this point you attribute to maliciousness (Israeli's knew but didn't tell/CIA knew and yet did nothing) where I tend to chalk this up to incompetence or apathy. Mostly because the former (maliciousness) implies a tight-lipped super-secret conspiracy of incredibly powerful people. While this is certainly possible, it is insulated from examination of evidence by the fact that it is super-secret! This is the earmark of the conspiracy theory.

Those 2 things right there are just a few of many that point to a bigger plan. However you are right, the conspiracy in itself is a paradox. If it is true....how can one prove it? Like you say...it's super secret!! Have you read any of the timeline I posted a few pages back? How can claims or rather research like that be ignored? Apparently these people have had their hands in world events since the the late 1700's.

I mean maybe it's just me, but it seems that something needs to be done. The problem is...what can we do? There are hundreds of millions of people in this country that are so quick to believe EVERYTHING that their government tells them. With all of these people "brainwashed" so to speak, a revolution is completely out of the question. I'm not saying these people are bad....they just don't know any better. People like myself are always quickly dismissed as "conspiracy nuts", but yet there is all of this evidence out there that points to the contrary. You seem to be an intellligent person....how can you not see the treachery in this event?

Please...humor me, I'll spare you searching through the thread and just give you the site directly. Please.....have a read and let me know what you think:

Timeline of the Rothschild family

 

[email468]

I believe I have read this before or at least I am familiar with a good bit of this history.
We can do a thought experiment. Let's say most everything on that site is true and everything the Rothschild family has done was done with planned malicious intent.

What would you propose be done?

 

[Erniedytn]

What would you propose be done?

Like I said before....what can we do? With so many people quick to take what the government tells them as fact, and even quicker to defend it, things like this are dismissed as fantasy. OK so lets say I tried to start some sort of movement....I would be silenced so fast my head would spin. Either by the media (Rothschild owned) portraying me as a loon....(if it even made the news at all), or by sniper if indeed my voice was heard and it actually went somewhere. Truthfully though.....I would be willing to sacrifice myself if my voice could be heard enough to actually make others feel as strong as I do, that way it could be carried on. I fear by that time though we will be tossed into another way of life by the "One World government" and things will be very different than the way we know them now.

To be VERY honest at this point....you can bet that IF....and I must stress IF....something happens on December 21, 2012.....you can bet that I WILL be taking some sort of action to get away from this madness. Now I know there are people on here that will call me crazy and like everyone else dismiss all of this. But think guys....what if all of this IS TRUE? I know I want a better life for my kids and their kids...not this war and pestilence we see today. This is why I am currently choosing NOT to have kids.

Back to the Rothschilds....what do you make of this:
YouTube - NORTH AMERICAN UNION & VCHIP TRUTH

 

[kittysecrets4u]

I don't think your crazy Erniedytn - that is why I am leaving the United States by the end of this year. You know some people will never get it; they will wait until it's too late to wake up. They will debate you until your blue in the face.

 

[closet.cult]

i hear you kitty. you're not the only one thinking about jumping ship before we hit the iceberg.

and thanks for the rothchild info. i'll check into it when i have the time.

this thread asked if we have a conspiracy theory. i do. i've peiced together from different theories that the 2nd plane at 9/11 hit the building at an odd angle. one veiw even looks as though the wing tip and engine of the right wing miss the building entirely. ive also read that very little to none of the planes were retreaved. (minus a suspecious front landing gear.)

anyway, there is also some talk in the right corners that the CIA has perfected holographic technology. both sound and image are 3-diminsionally solid. there is talk that they will use this to simulate an alien attach on planet earth. maybe they will show a battle between space cruisers or a spaceship and the U.S. Airforce. Aliens are supposed to be the next threat by this United State of fear, after the threat of terrorism wears down.

so, i know this is crazy, but i wonder if the planes on 9/11 were the first major use of holograms. think: they could've had the buildings rigged on every floor with explosives. computers time the explosions to go off at the right floors and right moment the holograms reach the building.

just another crackpot theory that trys to fill the holes left by the crackpot team of neo-cons commisioned to tell us what happened that day.

 

[Erniedytn]

The thing is even if you leave the United States...where will you go? Well lets see there are 5 options:

There are now only 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya.

Once the US falls into this, the others will follow like dominos.