24/hour light in veg is it good or should I 18/6?

DaLeftHandMan

DaLeftHandMan

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i run CFLs, so during veg i run 24/7, i find that veg growth is ALOT faster and more lush with this schedule. once in flower i run 11/13. fast growing, short, dense plants with really dense buds. IMO
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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abudtokr said:
Im not going to even read what you posted for real. Grow your shit how you want. It wont make a bit of difference. But PLANTS do sleep! Google it. I will let you have the last word becasue im not going to argue about if a plant sleeps or not its crystal clear to me that plants sleep. They are still growing yes and still hard at work, BUT there sleeping!
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i dont understand ur ignorance! for one u post on a forum to prove urself right, but u use someone elses oppinion from this blog/forum...http://dhoyblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/do-plants-sleep.html
and than after proving that u are not only wrong but ingnorant from not accepting u are.

how can u say ur plant is sleeping if it isnt dormant? if a plant does just as much work if not more at the dark period how can u call this sleep? all ur doing is saying well i sleep at night and im growing wen im sleeping so i must be like a plant....im sorry u choose to not learn and attempt to become a better grower, or to have a better understanding. u have no proof other than some personal oppinions on google, if ur not gonna read and or reply to the facts i have stated, what was ur initial intent? in other words if ur proven wrong in everytthing that u stand for and are too ignorant to even read y ur wrong than u have no purpose u have not only wasted ur time but the time of the person who started this thread to get factual information, so not only is it a relief to me but im sure it is to the many other ppl in this thread who dont care about bullshit or forum hype that u seem to be deeply passionate about!
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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abudtokr said:
Where is your facts proof that they dont sleep? Post a link I wanna read it. Thanks
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and how have i not provided u with enough proof that the night period is just as important as the day and that at night they do just as much work if not more?
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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and btw this is all comin from someone who started a thread last month about:

I have some newbi qustions?
What is each level of leaves called? What is stretch? I mean arnt the plants suppose to grow to the light? Sorry I dont get it I dont mean to be dumb but this is my first grow. What im wondering is why are the levels of my leaves so close together. Its about 2 inches and its going on its 4 level. and on the first set of leaves. In the crotch of them there is leaves starting to grow there. This must be a good thing right?


I really think u should do more sitting bac and readin than trying to teach ppl nonsense.....
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abudtokr

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dude I dont know everyones lingo here new to the whole talking on the forum. What I do know is that link you posted says nothing about SLEEP very interesting! But nothing to do about sleep..... I know how to grow plants I NEVER grew marijuana.... So im taking what I know about other green plants and using what I do know about them. Your right plants are active at night they grow they do alot. But there sleeping!

http://library.thinkquest.org/3715/photo3.html
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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great post but i fu read it all its proving is that plants have a circadian clock....that doesnt mean they sleep here is that guys thesis statement...

Plants have developed a time-keeping mechanism, called a circadian clock, which allows them to anticipate daily changes in light and temperature. Scientists have now determined the plant's circadian clock controls its sensitivity to a hormone called auxin, which may result in a better understanding of plant responses to environmental change and stress, leading to optimized crop production.

there is not one sentence in that whole article that proves that plants sleep!...................

The circadian clock plays a critical role in the temporal regulation of plant physiology, environmental responsiveness and development. Plants coordinate growth and metabolism with respect to the time of day by producing self-sustained rhythms, which means that even without light and dark cues, circadian clock-controlled processes continue at the appropriate times over a 24 hour-period.

if anything it proves that with or without light the plant is still hard at work. and processes are still completed
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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abudtokr said:
dude I dont know everyones lingo here new to the whole talking on the forum. What I do know is that link you posted says nothing about SLEEP very interesting! But nothing to do about sleep..... I know how to grow plants I NEVER grew marijuana.... So im taking what I know about other green plants and using what I do know about them. Your right plants are active at night they grow they do alot. But there sleeping!

http://library.thinkquest.org/3715/photo3.html
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if u read through the post i prove to u that at no point is a plant dorment! i proved that no matter what time of day no matter if there is light or darkness a plant is still hard at work therefore proving that at no time is a plant dormant/sleeeeppppiinnnggg. and just so u kno i have grown many things! i own a commercial greenhouse at which we have seasonal flowers, and many citrus trees which touches on much harder concepts than growing a weed! and to add another thing i grow weed also!

and regardless of the 'lingo' the questiosn u asked about in that forum u started are basic botany.
If u have grown plants be4 marijuana like u have stated....

' I mean arnt the plants suppose to grow to the light?
'What im wondering is why are the levels of my leaves so close together. Its about 2 inches and its going on its 4 level. and on the first set of leaves. In the crotch of them there is leaves starting to grow there. This must be a good thing right?'

than these questios and the many other ones u have asked in ur posts would have been answered due to experience u would have gained from growing plants prior to ur mj plants


and also the second link u provided compeletey ingores every singel process in a plants life other than photosythisis....so that doesnt really help
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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u should really read ur posts...the only thing that last link proved was that there is a process called photosynthisis......also if u are goin by wether the stomates are open or not (to determine if a plant is awake or sleeping) than that means that all desert plants sleep during the day and are awake at night........

'There is yet another strategy to cope with very hot, dry, desert weather and conserve water. Some plants (for example, cacti and pineapple) that live in extremely hot, dry areas like deserts, can only safely open their stomates at night when the weather is cool'
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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lofl all those ppl on that thread are saying what im saying......other than u....and one other person....and once again u seek personal oppinon to prove facts wrong
 
shand

shand

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I think a distinction between 'sleeping' and 'behaves differently in the dark' needs to be made
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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shand said:
I think a distinction between 'sleeping' and 'behaves differently in the dark' needs to be made
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that is y i clearly posted the definitin for sleeping, and on numerous occasions tried to distinguish the difference between a human and a plant....and how they are not the same
 
shand

shand

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rastadred22 said:
that is y i clearly posted the definitin for sleeping, and on numerous occasions tried to distinguish the difference between a human and a plant....and how they are not the same
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yes, exactly. I'm sure nobody is saying plants are completely dormant in the dark period because that is just ridiculous. Whether plants NEED a dark period or not, however, is a different matter.
 
djruiner

djruiner

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thought id toss in a few things ive read recently...light or dark period has nothing to do with a plant "sleeping" during its lights off time its doing just as much work as it was before the lights go out.a plant will "sleep" in nature after it rains..like rasta said...rain water has a low ph around 5.5 i think...after it rains the ph in the soil drops really low...so the plant cant uptake nutes..leaves will droop and thats when it "sleeps" its not taking up nutes until the soils ph gets closer to neutral and it leeches that water and then start to try to suck up as much nutes as fast as it can...then pops back up to life...so again...light and dark have nothing to do with the plant sleeping
 
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