Club 600

eoddom

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So I'm trying to join the 600 club but finding a light i like is a pain. Don't want to spend more then like 350 dollars on the whole setup...and would prefer it come with a balast for both hps and mh...or an enhanced hps bulb. I've been staring at the internet for days and i can make up my mind.
 

duchieman

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got them from marijuana nl, they say no need to veg more than a week if growing indoors
That is where I won my White Widow and Afghani seeds from. So far so good with them, I have 4 WW's going in flower and all 5 Afghani just popped the other day, so 100% germ. The WW's were femmed seeds and no hermies yet with 2 having about 4 weeks to go and the other 2 a couple of weeks behind that.
 

jigfresh

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So I'm trying to join the 600 club but finding a light i like is a pain. Don't want to spend more then like 350 dollars on the whole setup...and would prefer it come with a balast for both hps and mh...or an enhanced hps bulb. I've been staring at the internet for days and i can make up my mind.
One thing to think about with the switchable ballasts. WHile it is nice to have options, I don't think many people veg under the same light they flower under. Meaning most with a 600w HPS veg with smaller lights. Either Flouros or a smaller watt MH.
 

eoddom

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I'm going to be using a 5X5 grow tent....and want to veg like 10-16 at a time for now. And then be using the same tent to be flowering the 10-16 plants. After my first grow ill add another tent and alot of other goodies. So i need to buy one light that can do it all. Figured 600 would be the best choice.
 

duchieman

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I'm going to be using a 5X5 grow tent....and want to veg like 10-16 at a time for now. And then be using the same tent to be flowering the 10-16 plants. After my first grow ill add another tent and alot of other goodies. So i need to buy one light that can do it all. Figured 600 would be the best choice.
How long do you plan to veg for. You can very easily build a small and stealthy cabinet to veg that many plants, depending on how big you want them. You can easily house this cabinet with enough floro to veg seperately and speed things up a bit. I'm leary about MH conversion bulbs, and particularly dual arc. I went magnetic ballast but next time am going digital but only for HPS.
 

wormdrive66

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One thing to think about with the switchable ballasts. WHile it is nice to have options, I don't think many people veg under the same light they flower under. Meaning most with a 600w HPS veg with smaller lights. Either Flouros or a smaller watt MH.
I veg with the same light as i flower with(two weeks). I also use clones that are ten to twelve inches tall when i get them.
 

curious old fart

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duchieman

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I veg with the same light as i flower with(two weeks). I also use clones that are ten to twelve inches tall when i get them.
IMO, if your getting clones that big then I would just veg them under the HPS and if you really want more blue maybe rigging up some floros in the mix down low near your plants. Just a suggestion. With 350 bucks you should be able to get a nice digital ballast, bulb and reflector/cool tube.
 

duchieman

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Hell cof, I want to jump on that now. There you go worm drive, and lot's of room to upgrade with a 350 buget, high end bulb and cooltube.
 

eoddom

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I found a setup for under 300 on that same website with a digital ballast and comes with the HPS light bulb and the MH conversion bulb. Is it really worth it to go with the cooltube if you end up losing light intensity. Ambient temp in my house is only 70 and plan on hooking the inline fan to a climate controller. This way in the future i can add a CO2 tank. For now i have a kit that i do home brews with so im going to throw a higher temp brew in the tent with the plants. Kill two birds with one stone...haha. I'm going to go crazy untill i have my tent all setup and some little ladies growing. Gonna try out the CCOB method.
 

Heads Up

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Hey sorry to brake up the porn but i have a question
So i have 3 tents 2 at 4x4 and one at 4x8
going to use the 4x4 with a 400 MH for clones and mums.
and the 4x8 with 2 600's for flower. perpetual at 4 week intervals.

but im thinking would a 4th tent improve my grow? instead of 4 weeks in the clone tent, they go 3 weeks and then move to a new pre-flower tent set to 12/12 with a 400 mh before the 4 by 8 tent.
it would mean i lose a week veg so i can fit 16 in a 4x4.
it would also allow for a 9 week strain.
and wouldn't it also keep the stretch down by using the MH?

my aim is for 16 plants every month without using more that 2000k because i think over that is suspicious.
Here's my thinking, you could use a lot less light for your clones, a four hundred watt light is not necessary. From all that I have read, the idea with clones, since they have no roots is to develop roots, not leaves. In the development of said roots a lot of intense light is not needed, you are not so much looking for photosynthesis to take place as root development.

Ideally if you can fit and control the heat, all three lights would be of better use in your 4x8, two hps, one mh, the supposed ideal light mixture. I raised my moms and my clones with a four tube, four foot t-5 with excellent results. My clones started under cfl's, two twenty four watters and then under the t-5.

I just kicked mine into 12/12 sunday, I have one hps burning and one mh. I move the plants every few days to expose them directly to each kind of light. Don't hit them with an immediate high dose of P and try to keep your lights off temps as close to your lights on temps as possible to also help to control the stretch. Those are my thoughts.

Whodat, the pic with those buds coming out of that horn is just superb. I think it's one of my favorites if not my favorite pic on here. That was yours?

Congratulations six hundred club on a marvelous performance from such a varied cast of characters, what a wonderful page 420 has been. Great job guys, excellent porn.
 

Heads Up

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next time you see someone selling apollo 13 x whatever, remember this pic. apollo 13 F2s i made about 16 years ago. i grew some out about 9 months ago and got 15 out of 20 to pop. :)

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Mind if one inquires as to how you successfully stored them for so long? Quite the impressive collection of beans, especially if you are the maker and from that distant time frame.
 

Heads Up

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I agree with jigfresh about the six hundred and vegging, I think most people don't use their mh for vegging. This grow is the second I used my mh for vegging to see if I could tell any difference in the plants from being vegged under a t-5. The only other grow I used it was when I first went with hid lighting. So far, I don't see any huge difference. The one difference I do notice, when I veg under a t-5 and then flip them into flower under the hps, the stretch starts almost immediately. Tomorrow will be day four of 12/12 and I don't really notice any stretch taking place. They are growing but not really stretching. My lights have been off for two and a half hours and my temp difference is only four degrees from lights on.
 

bassman999

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Hotsause shops at Walmart! lol

Walmart thermo is top selling thermo for weed enthusiasts in the US. ahahah, I have one for each room and soon to get another for my moms.

Lets play a game and guess who would be out of business if it wasn't for indoor marijuana cultivation. Not necessarily products that are manufactured for cultivation.

1. Company that makes that thermo/humidity meter
2. Solo Cup Co
3. ?
Lol, I have same thermo as well!
 

curious old fart

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I found a setup for under 300 on that same website with a digital ballast and comes with the HPS light bulb and the MH conversion bulb. Is it really worth it to go with the cooltube if you end up losing light intensity. Ambient temp in my house is only 70 and plan on hooking the inline fan to a climate controller. This way in the future i can add a CO2 tank. For now i have a kit that i do home brews with so im going to throw a higher temp brew in the tent with the plants. Kill two birds with one stone...haha. I'm going to go crazy untill i have my tent all setup and some little ladies growing. Gonna try out the CCOB method.
I have that without the cool tube and it works well, but it's in a closet with an a/c. I just grabbed the first 600 set up I came to when I posted the link.

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