Why cure so long?

[canndo]

Organic? I don't really know what that means. Start with the question "what are we growing". If you say smokeable flowers, well that's one thing (maybe - how "organic" is breathing smoke into one's lungs?), if you say trichomes, that is an entirely different thing. THC (and the others) are chemicals produced in different chemical reactions. Does it matter that those chemicals are encouraged to react by feeding the plant one thing or another? I don't know. Is High Pressure Sodium an "organic" light source? Back to the Cigar parallel, there are some damn fine cigars around and only a very very few are "organic".

 

[Wolverine97]

Organic? I don't really know what that means. Start with the question "what are we growing". If you say smokeable flowers, well that's one thing (maybe - how "organic" is breathing smoke into one's lungs?), if you say trichomes, that is an entirely different thing. THC (and the others) are chemicals produced in different chemical reactions. Does it matter that those chemicals are encouraged to react by feeding the plant one thing or another? I don't know. Is High Pressure Sodium an "organic" light source? Back to the Cigar parallel, there are some damn fine cigars around and only a very very few are "organic".

That's true about the cigars, but how long do they cure that tobacco before they sell that cigar? Often, it's over a year.

 

[bushybush]

Why cure so long?

Why let a wine or whiskey age? Patience is a virtue young Jedi.

 

[canndo]

Wolverine - much much more than a year usually, and during that time the leaves are never anywhere close to dry. In tobacco, that process turns all the carbs to sugars and drives all of the chlorophyll out of the plant (except if you are interested in a candela wrapper which is in essence - flash dried and cured). Most of the nicotine is converted or destroyed in the process. I don't know what would happen to our favorite trichomes in a process such as this but I said earlier that I had experience with some cannabis that was treated in such a way and it was damn good. When I have a spare dozen full grown plants I am willing to experiment with I might try it. Problem is that most modern smokers would likely look at a gnarled and blackened and squashed bud and run away screaming.

 

[wiseguy316]

why grow it at all if you are not going to do it right? give it a proper cure and serve no wine before it's time.

 

[Wolverine97]

Wolverine - much much more than a year usually, and during that time the leaves are never anywhere close to dry. In tobacco, that process turns all the carbs to sugars and drives all of the chlorophyll out of the plant (except if you are interested in a candela wrapper which is in essence - flash dried and cured). Most of the nicotine is converted or destroyed in the process. I don't know what would happen to our favorite trichomes in a process such as this but I said earlier that I had experience with some cannabis that was treated in such a way and it was damn good. When I have a spare dozen full grown plants I am willing to experiment with I might try it. Problem is that most modern smokers would likely look at a gnarled and blackened and squashed bud and run away screaming.

Honestly, I think that strengthens what I was trying to say. But I'm basing that on nothing but my gut feeling, so, yeah...

 

[Uncle Ben]

So, who has taken my advice, in the face of cannabis forum protocol, and smoked a nugget that has been allowed to dry out all day in the sun?

 

[Wolverine97]

So, who has taken my advice, in the face of cannabis forum protocol, and smoked a nugget that has been allowed to dry out all day in the sun?

Well, it's a little cold up here for that right now, but I'll take you up on it in the spring. As I said before, I've smoke my stuff cured and uncured way too many times to even consider estimating, but I can always tell the difference. Further than that, if you were to give me a blind taste test with three separate buds of my Black Jack; one fresh but dried thoroughly, one cured for two-three weeks, and one that's cured three months, I could tell you which one is which by taste alone. Looking at trichomes gives an even clearer picture. That's proof enough for me.

I have sun-dried buds in Jamaica before when we needed to dry our find quickly, they were ok (potency was great), but the ones that we slow dried over a week to ten days tasted much better.

 

[tafbang]

I'm curing for the 1st time right now. I was the guy who didn't really understand it fully, but after letting the bud dry and sit and jarring it. It is then that you understand what the deal is. I have a very small quantity curing right now, most people would probably smoke it, but I feel like when I'm letting it sit and do it's thing that it's really getting better, and it looks and smells better. It's beautiful thing


And UncleBen, I wish I could, but where I live the bud would turn to ice. but that's what I'm definitely doing in the summer. I feel like that would be the purest step, after it dries in the sun I'd probably put it in a container and set it in the middle of my Table and smoke it

 

[bushybush]

Uncle Ben......Would love to try that as well......Always up for different methods, and it NEVER hurts to try with an eighth or so....My problem is being in an extremely urban area....Not sure where I could dry it in the sun

 

[taint]

I'm all saddened to know I've been doing it so wrong all this time.
I guess I've been duped by all the myths and web related shenanigans............fuck.
Guess I'll have to try and console myself with this here,even though it was done all backasswards from beginning to end.
Maybe..........just maybe someday someone will come along and teach me the right way,will somebody please come save me from myself.......................seriously you guys kill me sometimes.

 

[canefan]

So, who has taken my advice, in the face of cannabis forum protocol, and smoked a nugget that has been allowed to dry out all day in the sun?

Hey UB haven't talked in a long while but I believe in drying that way with larger amounts and when the conditions are right for it. In the 70's this was the method of choice in Florida for most growers. Our cannabis have been dried and cured in the dirt, mats, etc for thousands of years.
Wish I could dry like that at least in part now but alas the weather in the mountains where I live today won't allow a proper dry in that manner.

 

[canndo]

I just checked several jars of bud at different levels of cure. The newest is 62 percent humidity - I don't let the bud dry as much as some of you, but I can't (yet) say at what moisture level I put them in the jars, let's say only that I don't wait for the stem to break. The bud I have had in the jar for about 3 months now is at 41 percent. I am surprised it is that high but the buds are rock hard, and there is absolutely no trace of mold. I am inclined now to believe that, depending on the bud itself maybe 35 to 40 percent is a good place to be - I dunno.

 

[Wolverine97]

I just checked several jars of bud at different levels of cure. The newest is 62 percent humidity - I don't let the bud dry as much as some of you, but I can't (yet) say at what moisture level I put them in the jars, let's say only that I don't wait for the stem to break. The bud I have had in the jar for about 3 months now is at 41 percent. I am surprised it is that high but the buds are rock hard, and there is absolutely no trace of mold. I am inclined now to believe that, depending on the bud itself maybe 35 to 40 percent is a good place to be - I dunno.

40% for final storage, yes, for curing no.

 

[mycotoxin]

What a loser.... Ive got monitoring equipment that gives readings of thc and flavinoid content in the exact centre of the bud! Get a life, dude.

 

[hoagtech]

I'm all saddened to know I've been doing it so wrong all this time.
I guess I've been duped by all the myths and web related shenanigans............fuck.
Guess I'll have to try and console myself with this here,even though it was done all backasswards from beginning to end.
Maybe..........just maybe someday someone will come along and teach me the right way,will somebody please come save me from myself.......................seriously you guys kill me sometimes.

You dont need to be such a dick all the time. Save your heart and blood pressure for your old age if u wanna live longer. Fuckin sarcasm. no ones laughin buddy!

 

[Plebscrubber]

actually I thought it was pretty funny

 

[hoagtech]

actually I thought it was pretty funny

All right then plebscrubber, your right next to him on my shitlist.
How you like that?! probably don't care right? ehh what are you gonna do? you cant change the world..
Jk btw. but I was reading some of his other threads and hes just got this 'tude about him. free speech my friend..

 

[taint]

All right then plebscrubber, your right next to him on my shitlist.
How you like that?! probably don't care right? ehh what are you gonna do? you cant change the world..
Jk btw. but I was reading some of his other threads and hes just got this 'tude about him. free speech my friend..

All about free speech,if you think I aint laughin everytime my fingers hit the keyboard yer even dumber than ya sound.

You dont need to be such a dick all the time. Save your heart and blood pressure for your old age if u wanna live longer. Fuckin sarcasm. no ones laughin buddy!

perhaps these will help,

 

[hoagtech]

Ya well. You do have an attitude and I used my free speach to express it. Im also glad I wasted like three minutes of your time posting a picture of tucks. Haha your never gettin that back..