Should i cut my fan leaves?

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Matt Rize

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lol, I did Rize, same experience here even though I've only tried it a few times.
To say defol is good or bad are both meaning less statements. It all has to do with how tight you keep your plants, how tall you let them get, and how intense your lighting. Whatever Japanfreak, myself, other ect have done on other sites should be kept there. I have to use made up names (thomkal vwalaa and bubblemang) because I've been banned everywhere already. Shit happens is the point. Let's move on. All this BS is going turn folks off of RIU and push them to the other site. The heavily modded sites, where there is no freedom to argue.

Reals: just chill brah. this site is free (multiple meanings intended) and getting called out is only natural. lead by example and show us a side by side with results. I for one would like to see what others are doing in terms of defol.

Thanks for letting me post in reply to you JP, I only use your posts because I know you won't take it the wrong way, and I am clearly speaking to all involved parties here. Let's all drop it and continue with the grow talk.
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GodSlave

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yep I'm a retard. I'm just a troll you got me and I don't know a thing about growing and I give advice on stuff I've never done.... you are saying you've been growing for 10 years but you don't know about sweet come on man stop frontin, you don't have to lie to kick it.
Oh come on man, I seriously didn't know about sweet. So what? I don't keep up on all the stuff. I have heard about sucanat for years, but never researched it. So, when I started doing the research lately, I came across the sweet. So now you make the logic leap that since I didn't know about sweet, therefore I cannot have been growing for 10 years. Ok. I'm done with this. I held my tongue for 38 pages, but then like a true troll, you sucked me in. I refuse to feed the troll anymore.

And FYI, I NEVER said you don't know anything about growing. I merely pointed out that you jumped all over Japan for him making the simple suggestion that people should try out the defoliation theory for themselves to make up their own mind.
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REALSTYLES

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oh come on man, i seriously didn't know about sweet. So what? I don't keep up on all the stuff. I have heard about sucanat for years, but never researched it. So, when i started doing the research lately, i came across the sweet. So now you make the logic leap that since i didn't know about sweet, therefore i cannot have been growing for 10 years. Ok. I'm done with this. I held my tongue for 38 pages, but then like a true troll, you sucked me in. I refuse to feed the troll anymore.

And fyi, i never said you don't know anything about growing. I merely pointed out that you jumped all over japan for him making the simple suggestion that people should try out the defoliation theory for themselves to make up their own mind.
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y u so mad?
 

Brick Top

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Originally Posted by Japanfreak Brick why are you talking again about something you don't do? Just stick to the things you do do.

So you are saying that I have to be ignorant enough to make a growing mistake or to intentionally make a growing mistake before I can talk about it?

If you are old enough find a local college or a local Jr. college that offers horticulture courses and get an education in plants or avoid sites like this for a while and do some real research on sites that have credible information and you will learn why I say what I say removing healthy leaves and why Uncle Ben says what he says about removing healthy leaves.

Until you do either or both you will remain utterly clueless.
 

tafbang

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The only thing that is wrong with that is a plant does not change certain natural functions due to differing circumstances. It is not like in one grow room if a leaf or leaves are removed the plant(s) will 'think,' ok, I've lost healthy leaves that I now need to replace but in a different grow room the plant won't be 'concerned' about it.


It is not like in one grow room if leaves there will be a release of hormones but in another grow room there won't be any just because the circumstances are different.

Believing that to be the case would be like believing that under certain circumstances water that is not under pressure, like in pipes, will not flow downhill and instead flow uphill.
Terrible.... A plant getting completely shaded out by anothers leaves is a perfect circumstance. quit talking.... why so angry. everywhere you just yap bullshit
 

REALSTYLES

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hey, that is trolling brother, please knock it off, ignore the responses which you have elicited. don't make me tell dad (fdd, lol) ;)
Yo Matt why are you even trying to moderate here john12 is not removing his leaves. Have you read this whole thread?
 

REALSTYLES

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If you would have you'd see he has moved onto co2 but instead you call me a troll and I left positive advice then japanfreak got mad when john12 decided not to take off the leaves then the shit hit the fan call me what you want but I sir am not a troll. It's funny how I said japan's a troll and now you're saying the same thing to me.
 

tafbang

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well, you argued strongly on stupid shit when japan was merely giving someone the option and saying that both are successful. it's more on your ignorance than japanfreak just trying to inform you on possibilities
 

Matt Rize

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If you would have you'd see he has moved onto co2 but instead you call me a troll and I left positive advice then japanfreak got mad when john12 decided not to take off the leaves then the shit hit the fan call me what you want but I sir am not a troll. It's funny how I said japan's a troll and now you're saying the same thing to me.
its not funny its fucking annoying, and your countless prodding is trolling so STFU and relax. Go smoke. Run around the house a couple times. Then come back and chill out. Stop posting like a spoiled child and just drop it already.


lol godslave at that video. get it reals. Stop trolling (not calling you a troll so STFU about that). Settle down, watch the video. settle down now and post something about defol.
 

REALSTYLES

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troll spray yourself
tafbang you know that was to show japan that the pics are mine. you don't show other peoples pics stating this is the outcome if you didn't do it yourself. lol I shouldn't smoke so much oh well gotta take another hit
 

Brick Top

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Terrible.... A plant getting completely shaded out by anothers leaves is a perfect circumstance. quit talking.... why so angry. everywhere you just yap bullshit

So now you have stalked me to yet another thread to troll me?

Before anyone considers believing anything tafbang says remember that he is new to growing, roughly one month of experience now, and that is by his own admission.

He started 8 plants in a chandelier. He then moved his eight plants from his chandelier into a picnic basket with just a couple inches of soil in it that is on top of a stack of books that is on top of a stool that is on top of a table to be able to keep his plants, which he is now down to 6, or fewer, at least two having already died, under the few CFLs he has in his chandelier in the center of his room.

He says uses white bedsheets for a reflective material, but in pictures of his Leaning Tower of Pisa grow you can see that at least one is some sort of jungle print. He said the temperature of his room drops to 50 degrees F at night. When his plants were two week old seedlings he claimed he could already tell the sex of the plants by the shape of the leaves.

When his plants looked wilted he placed a bar of soap in the middle of his picnic basket on top of the couple inches of soil to perk up his plants. He does not have a timer on his chandelier so he manually turns his few CFLs on and off. He went from a vegetative light cycle to a flowering light cycle and then in a day or two he went back to a vegetative light cycle because he said the flowering light cycle was; "not right" for his plants and then made up his own vegetative light cycle according to what he said he felt would be best. Most of his decisions on how to grow are based in what he feels and what he defines as being; "sexy" rather than being based in any factual growing knowledge or experience.

He asked for factual advice to help him and he rejected the advice of every single person who attempted to help him. and he then verbally abused them calling them moronic and various other things. He has repeatedly lied about the advice people gave him and what they said only so he could abuse them more and attempt to make them look foolish, in particular, me. He has taken things I have said, which were fully supported with scientific research findings, and altered what I said and embellished what I said so he could then claim it was what I actually said and then make fun of me for the lies he made up and claimed I said.

He stalked me to another thread and with message after message filled with lies he trolled me until he thoroughly messed up the thread. Finally I left in hopes that he would then stop and the thread would not be totally destroyed.

Now he has stalked me again and found me here and he will attempt to do the very same thing here with message after message that are lies and he will not stop, he will continue if I remain, and possibly even if I do not remain and if anyone else makes the mistake of telling him how wrong he is in the things he says because then he will begin to troll them too.

As much as I would enjoy to continue to explain why it is a major mistake to remove any healthy fan leaves I am not going to allow him to use me to turn another thread into a total Mongolian cluster fuck.

If I remain, it will happen, just as it has happened before. His troll nature will make sure it happens. He is the biggest troll RIU currently has. He makes Japanfreak look like a beginner when it comes to trolling.

I will not feed him again and I will not be part of his taking this thread from being bad to being unbearably horrible like he is responsible for having done before.

Congratulations Laffy Taffy, you can chalk up another win on your troll scoreboard by having driven me out of yet another thread, and this time you can put a gold star next to your additional chalk mark by having done it with a single post. I will not allow you to suck me in again so you can do what you love more than anything else, trolling and destroying threads.

Now that I will be gone if you want to repeat your prior performances and either repeat your same lies as before and claim that my now nearly 39 years of growing experience is a lie and that I am not within a month and a half of turning 56 years old and am instead a kid with a pothead father or if you want to make up new lies, that is fine with me. I will not respond to any of them.

Or of course you could attempt to act like a nice guy and hope it will make people believe I made up the things I have said about you. But anyone who has been in your thread or was in the other thread you stalked me to and trolled me in almost destroying it before I left will already know the truth about you.

With that, my part in this exchange had ended and personally I do not care in the least if the side of ignorance wins and everyone here other than Uncle Ben and myself makes the major error of removing some or all of the healthy leaves from their plants.

No matter how many people decide to make that error it will not in any way diminish my successes or reduce my yields, so frankly I do not care how many sheep and lemmings blindly and ignorantly follow in the path of those who believe the major mistake they make is the very best way to grow and who advice others to duplicate their errors. Your losses will not be my misery.
 

REALSTYLES

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its not funny its fucking annoying, and your countless prodding is trolling so STFU and relax. Go smoke. Run around the house a couple times. Then come back and chill out. Stop posting like a spoiled child and just drop it already.


lol godslave at that video. get it reals. Stop trolling (not calling you a troll so STFU about that). Settle down, watch the video. I am the teacher, you are the student. quiet down now and post something about defol.
watch your mouth I didn't cuss at you but I'm a troll or cuss at anyone the worst I did was call someone a troll, a fraud and a liar but not retard or spoiled child. Cussing at people shows lack of communication skills
 
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