Kitty's Commercial Grow Op-Bigger & Better Every Day!
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all I have to say is that I don't use humboldt nutrients as a base, I only run their additives. I use Roots, ginormous, and their bud up powder. the reason I say this is that in total in two spots I'm now running 9000w and I always buy in gallon or larger sizes. I saw your comment about hn's prices and figured you should buy their 20l sizes and what not. you're a bright girl and probably have that all sussed out. but..... that's the only thing I could see that could be different...... big massive bulk nutes. we run a Heavy 16 base and buy the 23l of both a and b. expensive up front
420Marine
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This is an absolutely SICK grow...I also love the fact that this is your real life job so I know it will be fun to watch and you'll really know what your talking about as well. I don't think I can give you plus rep again but this setup alone deserves it...wait to go kitty.
shnkrmn
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I'm not sure how the drain part of flood and drain works with a table and a barrel . . . Cause gravity's not your friend with a barrel? I guess you have the headroom to have a flood table above a barrel. . . . Do you plan to use an ebb n gro controller? Sorry, my imagination is running wild.
I'm not really sure yet actually. <G> What I planned to do to SAVE a LOT of money is to use a blue 55 gallon barrel to flood the table with. You can get 55 gallon blue reservoirs from Craigslist often enough for about $15 each. I bought 10, for $150 and it included delivery locally. They were all full of residue from Vinegar, which wont hurt a plant, but I wash em out anyway because Vinegar = stinky.
The 4'x8' tray will be here in a week -- I plan to line it with square half-gallon ish pots just for vegging. After they veg, they will then be transplanted into the 2 gallon or 3.5 gallon buckets, depending on the plant. I'll likely put clones and "stick" plants in the smaller buckets, and the plants that like to bush out in the larger ones.
TheJointProject
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sweet setup kitty!! Go big or go home! can't wait to see it when it's goin full speed.
researchkitty
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For my previous grow of 6000 watts, the one gallon sizes of Grow/Micro/Bloom and the 1 gallon of ProZyme and the big jug of Roots is basically what I was using. They've changed their formulas about 6 months ago to use a static amount of G/M/B and then the additives as the plants need them which did cut down on ProZyme usage by half, but then again it added White Widow powder too, yet they reduced the Big Up powder requirement in half.
Since nutrients do have a shelf life, I try to keep as few as possible to make sure they are always changing. If they are on my shelf for more than 4 or 5 months, I usually throw it away and replace with new anyway. I dont know if its OCD or not but had a 150ml tin of the Roots smell like rotten eggs from a warehouse that didnt rotate their stock. One of the few times in my life I've almost vomited.
Even though its my job, like most employees, I dont really know *exactly* what I'm doing yet. Every time I upgrade a system or do something new there's consequences, whether good or bad! Mostly its about keeping the right cycle so something is always flowering, and that can be a hard thing to pre-plan in advance if you arent exactly sure how many plants you need etc....... That's why i like grow journals, everyone seems to help out and its a good time.
I have a 8 bulb T5 HO that emits something like 400 watts (406w I think?). Its very long as you can see in the pictures, so despite it being 400w, its really just the same as 4 96w T5's in an array, it isnt much more light for the clones than needed. For vegging, I'll use a single 1000w on the 4x8 Flood Tray at a height of around 24-28" above the plants. MH, of course. I vegged once under a 1000w lamp for 3 weeks then flowered and the plants were at 5 plants per light. I think it'll take a week, week and a half this time around since there will be 16 plants per light instead of just 5.
For me, using bigger and dimming just makes me always want to use max settings anyway -- I'm a light WHORE -- MORE MORE MORE!!!
The 4x8 flood tray will be put on a wood frame that is about 2 feet off the ground. UNDER it will be a 5 gallon bucket with a float in it where when it gets full from the table fill, it pumps back to the reservoir. Since flood trays use a high and a low valve, the water comes in on the low valve, overspill exits the high valve, and then there will be a smaller third hole and hose that always drains to the red bucket, just not as wide of a hose as the other two. That way it always drains to the 5 gallon bucket but not faster than its being filled. When its filled filled, any overage will go out the top drain also to the red bucket. I hope that made some sense, if not, I'll have pictures for you in a week
grow space
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Wow, very nice thread you got going kitty...How long have u been doing these kind of big setups..?
I also want to do it one day, but i cant get the money together, thats my biggest prob...Anyways, will be watching, best of luck to you ...
I also want to do it one day, but i cant get the money together, thats my biggest prob...Anyways, will be watching, best of luck to you ...
Shrubs First
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What will the total watts be in both flower rooms? Are you going to be perpetually harvesting
the two rooms once a month?
the two rooms once a month?
BiteSizeFreak
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What are you using for power? I know you were running a couple generators before but this is a bit bigger. Are you still looking to stay "off the grid" or just use the buildings juice since its a commercial area, or both?
researchkitty
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This is my first big setup, my 'biggest' previous to this was 6000 watts (6 1kW lamps).Wow, very nice thread you got going kitty...How long have u been doing these kind of big setups..?
I also want to do it one day, but i cant get the money together, thats my biggest prob...Anyways, will be watching, best of luck to you ...
I'm confused about ProZyme and how Humboldt can say in week 6 to use 15mL / gallon and then revise a chart (but not the product) and now ask for 5mL / gallon. WTF were the other 10mL for?
I've never tried Cannazyme. I also dont really even know what ProZyme DOES other than cost money and its on the nutrient chart...... There's 4 flower rooms, but probably use the 4th for Mushrooms instead. In the other 3 rooms I want around 24,000 watts in total which would be a nice 8 pack of lights in each room. Once the next shipment of supplies gets all the way over here mid week next week then we'll have 9000 watts in one room (3 rows of 3x1000w, 16 plants each light) and then the other room with 5000 watts as you see in the pictures now (with only 4 lights turned on right now and the other spare light going to the other room).
Given that, I'll probably harvest every 4 weeks and keep them on an 8 week chop cycle. No room for 9, 10, or 11 week strains in this hut.
Right now, just commercial electric. It's a great rate, $0.05 per kwH. =) Eventually, I'd like to add a 30kW Generac quiet generator that would run off of a 2000 gallon propane tank already on the property. I did the math a while back and it would need filling up every month pretty much. It costs more, but also would give a nice unlimited supply of Propane to the Propane CO2 generators that will be installed in a few months too.
Time for a photo update in the next post.................... Thanks everyone!!
researchkitty
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Time for a photo update...............
Got in a few hundred feet of the 10' tall Mylar, so that's now installed. It always makes things look so much nicer. Still have a lot of staples to add and a little detail work on it to do, but for now, Flower Room #1 is light reflectivity central.
I dont want to paint the floors white. Its just polished concrete right now, and I know I lose a little light reflectivity, but is it really necessary? The last room was painted white on the floors and it just made dirt stick to it and look ugly unless you washed it down. So nice to just sweep right now!
#10 - Mommies guardian is keeping the leaf blower and the mylar company. Unroll!
#11 - Much better.
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#13 - So much room still...
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#17 - The picture of the ballast with the light reminders is from my first grow. I never could remember which HPS or MH was and whether it was the skinny bulb or the fat bulbs. Good times!
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#19 - It really isnt this yellow, just a weird camera flash I think. The plants are looking better overall given the long move and stress they had to come right in the new area.
#20 - Some plants look hot
#21 - Some plants look not. Focusing on the NEW growth instead of the stressed growth tells me that its nice and green and ready to roll up top. Should be nice!
#22 - A disfigured Kandy Kush mommie that is now in flower. Mommies look so hacked up vs others but they do result in nice nugs.
#23 - A little light on humidity today, usually its at about 50%.
#25 - at least the better of the two is here to smoke.............
#26 - Mmmm, a present!
....that's all for now. Thanks
Got in a few hundred feet of the 10' tall Mylar, so that's now installed. It always makes things look so much nicer. Still have a lot of staples to add and a little detail work on it to do, but for now, Flower Room #1 is light reflectivity central.
I dont want to paint the floors white. Its just polished concrete right now, and I know I lose a little light reflectivity, but is it really necessary? The last room was painted white on the floors and it just made dirt stick to it and look ugly unless you washed it down. So nice to just sweep right now!
#10 - Mommies guardian is keeping the leaf blower and the mylar company. Unroll!
#11 - Much better.
#12 -
#13 - So much room still...
#14 -
#15 -
#16 -
#17 - The picture of the ballast with the light reminders is from my first grow. I never could remember which HPS or MH was and whether it was the skinny bulb or the fat bulbs.
Good times!#18 -
#19 - It really isnt this yellow, just a weird camera flash I think. The plants are looking better overall given the long move and stress they had to come right in the new area.
#20 - Some plants look hot
#21 - Some plants look not.
Focusing on the NEW growth instead of the stressed growth tells me that its nice and green and ready to roll up top. Should be nice!#22 - A disfigured Kandy Kush mommie that is now in flower. Mommies look so hacked up vs others but they do result in nice nugs.
#23 - A little light on humidity today, usually its at about 50%.
#25 - at least the better of the two is here to smoke.............
#26 - Mmmm, a present!
....that's all for now. Thanks
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researchkitty
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Yea no more pipes for a few months, we have way too much to do to get that setup............... Sorry Thats mister kitty though, I tried for a while and dont do it now.
Thats mister kitty though, I tried for a while and dont do it now.
brownbearclan
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Wow Kitty I...I think I love you lol. Seriously though that is so badass, massive props! I remember reading a little while back you said you might have access to some space like this, good to see it's happening for ya! Peace. =)
