Parent Rights/Medical/Laws/Pharmaceutical Rant

rkm

Well-Known Member
Ok, this is a multi-part rant. I welcome comments especially from the females as this has a little to do with what happened today.

My daughter is 15 and had a consultation visit with the OB/GYN today. Next thing I know she is coming out and the doctor had given the HPV shot to her.

Now in a way this totally pissed me off. Not for the fact of getting the shot, but for the mere fact I as the adult parent and was never consulted. The doctors told me that for the most part, she(kids) does not need parental permission for things along these lines.

I see major problems with this. First the doctors are taking permission from a kid that may not be well versed enough to make that decision on their own, other than just taking the doctors word for it. They may not know the questions to ask, etc, there are several factors that I think the parent should be consulted as well. I just dont believe kids are well-informed enough to make certain decisions on their own.

Enter conspiracy theory. The way I see it, the pharmaceautical companies have lobbied to allow doctor and patient(specifically minor patients) to make decisions without the parent. With all the hoopla about birth control, HPV etc, I can see where some parents would think that this condones the child to have sex at young ages. I myself do not particularly believe this. I believe the pharmaceutical companies noticed this and that the parents were blocking them by not allowing their kid/s to receive drug treatments. So, again, the drug companies win again by taking my rights away from me, because parents were getting into their bottom line by not allowing the docs to prescribe BC, HPV, etc.

Simple fact, I had several questions I would have asked the doctor about receiving the shot. I am not saying I was going to allow or disallow her receiving the shot, but I feel as if I should have been consulted first. For the most part the doctor said he wanted to give her the shot and she said ok without asking a single question. I am just pissed because as her caretaker and provider I feel as if I have every right to know every thing about her medical treatments.

If I am wrong please enlighten me, I accept the fact I may be missing something. And any ladies that want to comment on the HPV shot please feel free. I am trying to make my decision as to take her back for her second injection. I am a single dad, so I may not totally understand everything, but I try and my daughter and me are pretty open about stuff, so I dont have problems in talking with her about it.
 

gardenandcats

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I do agree with you. You should of been consulted so you and your daughter could make a informed decision together after discussing the pros and cons of getting the HPV shot.
The HPV shot has nothing though to do with sex birth control ect. I myself feel any young women should get this shot. Reasons why it is the first vaccine developed to prevent cervical cancer and other diseases in females caused by certain types of genital human papillomavirus (HPV). The vaccine, Gardasil®, protects against four HPV types, which together cause 70% of cervical cancers and 90% of genital warts.... Also this injection is most effective if it is given BEFORE a young women becomes sexually active. Anything that can help prevent cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina is a good thing. But YES I do agree you should of at least been informed.
 

rkm

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I do agree with you. You should of been consulted so you and your daughter could make a informed decision together after discussing the pros and cons of getting the HPV shot.
The HPV shot has nothing though to do with sex birth control ect. I myself feel any young women should get this shot. Reasons why it is the first vaccine developed to prevent cervical cancer and other diseases in females caused by certain types of genital human papillomavirus (HPV). The vaccine, Gardasil®, protects against four HPV types, which together cause 70% of cervical cancers and 90% of genital warts.... Also this injection is most effective if it is given BEFORE a young women becomes sexually active. Anything that can help prevent cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina is a good thing. But YES I do agree you should of at least been informed.
Thats my point. She has another medical condition that I have to keep in mind with medications. I know this shot does not fall into one I need to watch, but she does not know this and had the shot anyway. Which is the basis for my moment of being pissed off. Its the simple fact that I may know a few things she doesnt, I can bring things to light, for example she cant have the polio vacination, but it does not really matter because they dont give that one anymore. I do blame her too, for not telling the doctor to come and get me just as much as I blame the doctor for not talking to me about it as well, you know it basically boils down to common courtesy.

I had another slight incident a few weeks ago along the same lines. My son needed some booster shots, and the doc was wanting to give him the flu shot. I said no to that one. He has never had the flu, I have never had the flu, his sister has never had the flu, and never had the shot either. On some things I think nature should be left to fix itself. My kids are healthly, athletic, and never get sick and I just have serious problem with people injecting aluminum in my and my kids body. Never the less, I pissed the doctor off, and told her to go get another doctor to see my son. She damn near told me I had no choice but to let him have the shot and I did not have much to say. I told her "wanna bet?" No flu shot was given.
 

magicdude22

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i totally agree on this. espicially over the flu shot due to conflicting opinions on weather or not its even safe for someone. there should be more people like ur self to stick up for your own rights instead of everyone just rollin over n takin it in the ass from all these companies that are basicly tryin to squeeze a few extra bucks out of all honost hard working people like you.
 

rkm

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i totally agree on this. espicially over the flu shot due to conflicting opinions on weather or not its even safe for someone. there should be more people like ur self to stick up for your own rights instead of everyone just rollin over n takin it in the ass from all these companies that are basicly tryin to squeeze a few extra bucks out of all honost hard working people like you.
I understand what you are saying, I have insurance so I dont really have to pay anything, 20 bucks at the most(besides the money deducted from my paycheck of course). But the money is not what I am worried about. I am an army of one, which does not mean much when dealing with the big guys. I am finding and it is looking like I dont have much control over my kids welfare. But....what if one of my kids damages my neighbors property, I am responsible until they are 18 and I have to pay for it. Its all BS. I try to make my point heard, but most of the time I come across as some pissed off bitter parent and no one pays a bit of attention. It just pisses me off, I cannot have any say on whether or not my child gets a flu shot or has an HPV vaccination. When all I ask is that I be informed of it to begin with and let me know the pros and cons, I am not asking for much. I want the best for my kids as do most, but as it is looking once the kids get to 12 years old I dont have much say in it, until they break my neighbors window on accident and then I have to pay for it.

The US is totally fucked!!! I am going to move to some third world country, Belize is sounding good.
As far as the peoples ancestors that moved from England, etc to escape religious persecution, I now seem to find myself inside a personal persecution from the government. I am going to do something big, I just dont know what yet, but I intend on starting to rattle some cages.
 

rkm

Well-Known Member
I do agree with you. You should of been consulted so you and your daughter could make a informed decision together after discussing the pros and cons of getting the HPV shot.
The HPV shot has nothing though to do with sex birth control ect. I myself feel any young women should get this shot. Reasons why it is the first vaccine developed to prevent cervical cancer and other diseases in females caused by certain types of genital human papillomavirus (HPV). The vaccine, Gardasil®, protects against four HPV types, which together cause 70% of cervical cancers and 90% of genital warts.... Also this injection is most effective if it is given BEFORE a young women becomes sexually active. Anything that can help prevent cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina is a good thing. But YES I do agree you should of at least been informed.
Am I wrong in being pissed off?? It just seems that my kids can go to the doc and get any meds they want now without my permission. Especially when all they may need is a good ass busting, not drugs. Which I feel alot of docs are getting paid off by the big boys to prescribe. Heck, who will know, the docs are not going to tell the parents, why should they? They got paid.

My problem with the whole thing and as you say its the first. The first is my problem. I would never buy the first of anything, it generally has too many bugs to be worked out. I am not doubting this HPV shot at all, I just think it is too new to be just throwing out to everyone like it was candy, just like the drug companies want their shit sold. I just want more proof for the protection of my baby girl.
 

rkm

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this is a site for talkin abotu growing weed. not what kinda drugs yoru daughter can get
Sorry, I dont do this often.

FUCK OFF!!!

Go visit another thread if you dont have anything to help.

Dont get me on your ass man, I put this in the right area.
 

drew420man

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haha no you didnt. man its people like you that should have kids. your daught would probably take meth if some offered it to her
 

StaySafe420

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haha no you didnt. man its people like you that should have kids. your daught would probably take meth if some offered it to her
moderators we have another one... jeesus how many jerks can there be???

TOKE N TALK!!! i'll translate that for you... HIGH PEOPLE TALKING! stop trying to be cool
 

rkm

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haha no you didnt. man its people like you that should have kids. your daught would probably take meth if some offered it to her
Dude, back off this is my last response to you. You are not a person that should be commenting on this thread anyway. My girl knows what meth is. She plays varsity soccer at her HS. She has goals. She understands the fact if she fucks up and gets pregnant her soccer career is over. University of Kentucky has already talked to her about possibly playing for them. I know girl sports do not get alot of attention, but it happens. Fuck off!!! Scouts are already talking to her but she has alot of work to do first, she was varsity in her freshman year. Give up the negativity man. Be positive and help my baby out and maybe you will see her on the olympic team in the next few years. Wishful thinking??? yes??? possible?? yes?? man dont be knocking a little girl that has goals and wants to play world cup soccer for the US team man. I know the odds man, but hell I am doing everything I can to promote her into that realm. She would love it. You should too.

But while she was in middle school she played on the HS team on JV, once she reached HS age she made varsity instantly. So back the fuck off bitch!!! You have no room to make any comment at all.

Dont be judging me, and especially my little lady.
 

Pizzzh

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my little brothers on chemo a drug called cytoxin so his white count is like nothing. They gave him the flu shot what happens?? He got the flu like 2 weeks later. He is on probably 30 different meds. Anymore i'm wondering if the drugs are doin more harm than they are helping.. There out to make money not help people. It's sad. Your totally right i don't think they should be able to give your children anything w/o your permission..
 

gardenandcats

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this is a site for talkin abotu growing weed. not what kinda drugs yoru daughter can get
You are way out of line and very rude...This man has some very legimate concerns and asked for some intellegient responses.He did post in the correct section of this board..If his post does not interest you then ok thats fine but to post such a stupid inmature response..Obviously your elevator doesn't go to the top floor! And your spelling well I won't get into that...


Good luck with your daughter. It sounds like you are doing a WONDEFULL job raising her :hump:..It is sad that at her age the medical field is allowed to offer her these types of options without having to have parental permission. The HPV vacinne has been studied and tested (double blind studies) which are the best,for a few years before it was allowed on the market.. In the future just make sure your daughter understands that she should always consult YOU before allowing anything that you may have a concern with..
 

drew420man

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spelling huh? what the fuck is very "LEGIMATE" mean you fucking idiot. its douche bags like you that i hate and you are a fucking retard. look at the name of the website. roll it up dot org mother fucker. not how good at soccer my daughter is.
 

StaySafe420

Well-Known Member
spelling huh? what the fuck is very "LEGIMATE" mean you fucking idiot. its douche bags like you that i hate and you are a fucking retard. look at the name of the website. roll it up dot org mother fucker. not how good at soccer my daughter is.
rkm, why do jerks just congregate around you man!? it's such a bum rap...

You always come discussing REAL topics. Things that actually matter to you and obviously others... yet "drew420woman" over here wants to pick fights

Oh well bro, what can you do? :peace:
 

rkm

Well-Known Member
rkm, why do jerks just congregate around you man!? it's such a bum rap...

You always come discussing REAL topics. Things that actually matter to you and obviously others... yet "drew420woman" over here wants to pick fights

Oh well bro, what can you do? :peace:
Who knows man, people like that are not smart enough to get under my skin.
 
your daughter might not know a lot of shit but she should have the right to make her own decitions.
sure, you arent one of those parents who think htat their kids shouldnt be havign sex period and dont give them condoms or anything, but some parents are like that. and thats why kids should be able to make these kinds of decitions. if her doctor thinks its okay for her then it probably is.

also, do you think that you make every decition for your daughter? well guess what? you dont. even if when she is offered drugs or something she says no she is still the one making htat decition, without you.

but yeah... i woudl agree with you but the doctor probably knows what they are doing more htan you and other parents do. theyre the ones who study medicine for a living. they know what theyre doing. still, they shoudl tell you about it.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I don't think that HPV shot is a good idea. Now there are starting to be reports problems related to it including 3 girls that died from it.

Catania, Don't Shoot Us with HPV!

I personally don't like to take any medication that hasn't been on the market for at least 5 years. Seems like one day they are pushing some drug like "take Viox it'll cure your ills" then the next day it's "if you have taken viox call the law offices of Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe"

I have a daughter that is 20 and when they first started pushing that HPV virus we were both leary about it. We had a discussion about it, I told her how I don't like to use new drugs on the market because sometimes people die from that. We agreed on no HPV shot for at least 5 years. Now we've decided not to let a doctor pressure us into it.

Talking about sex and especially the use of condoms is the best thing you can do for your teenager.
 
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