First Bubbleponics DWC 5 gallon hydro. Need 3 questions answered

Standupp

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Alright guys, im impressed, +2000 views :D

anyways, i have some news:

I did the transition to flowering mode with 4tsp Pro Gro and 4tsp Pro Bloom @ ~600ppm

pH: 6

12/12 lighting still with my CFL, no $ for a HPS at the moment.

Humidity: 35%

Temp: 80F

I trimmed off all that undergrowth a week ago, now more energy is put fourth top growth, and now, NUGZZZ :) :) (Hopefully its a female)

No signs yet as to what gender, no balls, no white hairs. Ill post in a few days and let you guys know what it appears to be.

In a week i am going to do a full 8tsp of bloom, with no gro.

Do you recommend any other nutes to go with bloom? like sweetener?

I took out the humidifier and am just using an oscillating fan to cool the plant/bucket.

Water feels a little warmer, but im not worried. During the first few weeks of growing the res got to 90 degrees and didnt get root rot at all.

Any recommendations? Post below!!!

-SMOKE WEED :joint:
 

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Standupp

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Day 3 of Flowering
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Well it has been three days in 12/12 and transition formula.

For new viewers, my current nutrient solution for 3 gallon of res water is:

Botanicare Pro Grow: 4tsp
Botanicare Pro Bloom: 4tsp
Tap water with a ph of 7.5 190ppm
2 tsp of pH down


...for a total of ~650 ppm and pH of 6.

Temp is 83 F
Res Temp 70F
Humidity 35%
Lighting 12/12 with 125W CFL from Hydrofarm
Dual Output airpump with 4 an 6 inch airstones.

mixed signs of gender. I cant tell if it had tiny balls or just pods that release hairs. They are too small to tell but 3 nodes up from the base, a set of branches have a small white hair, which is the only one visible at the time.

In 5 days i am going to do a res change with the following nutrient solution:
Botanicare Pro Bloom: 8tsp

Do you think i can get away with 9tsp? Ive read that when blooming, plants can handle high amounts of nutes.

Do any of you recommned any additional nutrients when blooming? Have any of you had great success with Botanicare's Sweetener? It struck my eye at the hydro store the other day when i was picking up the blooming nutes.

Im going to try to get my hands on a better camera this week so ill have better quality photos. Im sure you all want to see where the littles hairs come up from.

Thanks for stopping by and ill be glad to answer any questions or concerns.

Constructive Critisism Appreciated.
 

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Standupp

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Day 4 of Flowering
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This is an update of Day 4 of flowering 45 minutes before lights go off. I tried to get better photos, but they still are hard to tell. Basically one node has what seems to be pods or balls, but it looks like there are hairs on the higher nodes.

Looks like she grew about an inch since tuesday.

Image One, and Four show what to look like a white hair.
Image Three shows the pods
 

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stoup1187

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thanks. i've been looking into these lights and this's the only journal i've found that is using just this light. scribed. can't wait to see how this comes out.
Do you think i can get away with 9tsp? Ive read that when blooming, plants can handle high amounts of nutes.
i don't really think you could go with 9tsp. i'm no expert so don't take my word for it but it looks like you might be starting to burn the tips of the leaves just a little with the amount of nutes your using now.
 

Standupp

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thanks. i've been looking into these lights and this's the only journal i've found that is using just this light. scribed. can't wait to see how this comes out.

i don't really think you could go with 9tsp. i'm no expert so don't take my word for it but it looks like you might be starting to burn the tips of the leaves just a little with the amount of nutes your using now.
Yeah great light! It costs close to nothing to run and runs very cool when its on. My plant started short and bushy, which i figured was from the type of strain it is, which may be part, but i raised the light in hope to stretch her out a little bit, and she did grow taller and less bushy. That goes to show that its enough light to satisfy the plant, even from a far distance.

As far as nute burn, the tips of the plants are a bit crispy because the lack of air movement. I think if i had an inline fan going itd be healthier. Lower leaves are burnt because i went on vacation and the humidifier (only air source at the time) ran out of water and temps reached 105 F.

According to page 7, the Botanicare feeding chart recommends 3 tsp of Gro, and 3 tsp of Bloom per gallon of res. I have 3 gallons. So if I follow the chart, that is 18 tsp total (9tsp gro, 9tsp bloom).

I use only 8tsp total for my res, meaning i am using half strength than what botanicare recommends. If you are fimiliar with hydroponics threads on here, youll know that you should start at around 1/4th strength and go up.

Well i followed that and i really dont think that it could be burning my plant. Maybe i am wrong, but doesnt seem practical.
 

husalife

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The tips of the leaves being burned could mean you have reached the plants threshold on PPM for now.

Id stay put around 650ppm or a little lower for now and see if the burn backs off a little. Great job so far. Just wanted to

add a suggestion about the burn.
 

stoup1187

Member
hey man i still think your doing a great job and its just barely burning the tips. i dont think i would worry bout it to much as long as it doesnt get any worse. then if it does and you've been keeping the temps down and things like that you'll know if its the nutes. good luck to ya
 

Standupp

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Hey guys im gonna post an update when the lights turn on, but for the time being, i want everyone to know;

I


See


HAIRS!!!:hug:

I will try to post pics soon with details.
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Nice, thats great news on the girl. Congrats!

I just read through your whole thread and I must say, you've done a great job so far! There's a lot of good info about dwc in here and I'm glad I came across it! I'm nearing the end of my first soil grow and I really like the idea of hydro.

Anyway +Rep for helping me and growing a nice little lady :)
 

Standupp

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Day 9 of Flowering
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Alright guys, i found my old digital camera and took some close up pics of the hairs on the main cola forming, but apparently the usb cable for it at my buddies house, so i will post them tomorrow!

So i whipped out my cellphone and tried to get some decent photos.

The first is of the main cola, where first white hairs appeared.
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Here she is. About 16inches
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Here are the roots- older roots have an orange tint and newer are white. No slime or anything, the picture appears darker than it really is. About 2ft long

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Temp: 78-85F
humidity: 40%
pH: 6
ppm: 417
lighting: 12/12 125W CLF 8500 lumen output.

I changed the res this past monday and put in 6tsp of Bloom. @ ~450 ppm
Agreed it is a little high where i had it before.

Currently @:
0tsp gro, 6tsp bloom

If she seems to be handling 6tsp well, ill try 7.

Im going to look at some CLF flowering journals to see what kinds of results people are getting, trouble is i cant find any DWC CLF Flowering Journals. I'll +rep anyone who can find me a source before i can find one. Ill post it here if i do.

And last of all, here is a bowl i just packed next to a gift my sister got me in Vegas lol
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Standupp

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Thanks Smellytreez! I was actually going to edit my post because i checked ur link in ur sig and there are a shitload of CFL journals and threads which i read through. Pretty informative stuff! Thanks!
+rep :)
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

Well-Known Member
Thanks Smellytreez! I was actually going to edit my post because i checked ur link in ur sig and there are a shitload of CFL journals and threads which i read through. Pretty informative stuff! Thanks!
+rep :)

No problem, glad I could help! I didn't even think of the link in my sig lol..
 

Standupp

Active Member
Day 11 of Flowering
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Here are my higher definition pictures up close showing the hairs and the first bud forming on the highest set of leaves.
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And here she is 20 mins after waking up
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Standupp

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Its a great thing seeing those buds form isn't it!? Oh rep back at you for a very healthy girl!
Oh man yes, yes it is. Especially great because all of my last grows were autoflowers, and hairs appeared wayy early.

I was a little skeptical, because a few weeks ago i was looking at hair pods, which struck my eye as balls at first. I was accepting fate when all of a sudden the first hair appeared. So Happy!

Its just a waiting game now. I was thinking about picking up the following product:

Botanicare Sweet- Grape

Although chart shows it should be used in vegetive and transition as well as flowering, but i dont think i would hurt to add 1/3 strength at about 1tsp for my 3 gallon res added to the 6tsp of pro bloom.


If it seems safe to follow through, other than grape, what is a recommended product among the following?



Also, has anyone tried these out with fantastic results?

Thanks again SmellyTreez :joint:
 
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