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themullet

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first off i have got such a garbage grow happening right now. the grow area is a 15 gallon garbage can flipped over with 3 cfl fixtures at the moment. 23 watts not sure what the lumen count is as i didnt buy them. landlords that pay the light bill are alright guys if you ask me. keeping it extremely low key no other elctricity being used at all except the porn box (PC).
alright here is the meat and potatoes of the whole operation. since this is my first attempt at growing anything im using a mexi schwag seed that i didnt throw out with the rest of them. better to shack up with the town bike then hitting the sack with the porn star first right. practice makes perfect. using mg potting mix as that was the only soil that i could find at the edges of the civilized world.
at the moment the little one is about 4 inches tall above the soil line. plant stretched a bit so buried the first inch and a half to get the plant at a maintainable height. have noticed several weird things with the plant first set of leaves only has 1 main leave with no sign of fingering out. second is that the leaf structure is not symetrical. thinking this is caused by not rotating enough but who knows. garbage breeds garbage.
first question about this plant is when to start training or topping? have to keep it midget style because no room to let it go. the fourth node has started but it is less than an eighth of an inch tall. so no real rush with that answer.:joint: the little bastard just turned two. two weeks that is
 

grower001

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ate you sure you know what a node is how can it be on its 4th node and only be 1/8" inch tall?? i dont understand. also seedlings grow odd number leaves the first leafs only have one figure than the next node 3 than 5 than 7 and if big enough sometime 9 or 11
 

themullet

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ate you sure you know what a node is how can it be on its 4th node and only be 1/8" inch tall?? i dont understand. also seedlings grow odd number leaves the first leafs only have one figure than the next node 3 than 5 than 7 and if big enough sometime 9 or 11
the height of the plant is about 4 inches. the 1/8 inch part is a seperate leave growth on top of the 3rd set of leaves. but the answer of the first question answers a pretty big question that i was quite curious about
 

themullet

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lots of new foliage growth. bushing out like a bastard in the last couple of days. huge increase in the amount of water the little lady likes everyday. from about a cup and a half to about 3 cups of water a drink. still looking for a reply to when would be a good time to give her a trim up top? will post a pic or two later this afternoon. when would another transplant be in order? got her locked into a folgers coffee container and with the increase in foliage i know that the roots have filled out twice as much at least since the first transplant. thinking another 2 weeks of vegging and then into the dark to see what im working with
 

tfishing

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i wouldn't wait much longer than another week from those pics to transplant to the final pot. In general, you can expect the roots to fill about a gallon of soil every month. Another typical rule of thumb is to transplant when the plant becomes taller than its container.. I personally believe the sooner you get it into its final container the better.
 

themullet

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i wouldn't wait much longer than another week from those pics to transplant to the final pot. In general, you can expect the roots to fill about a gallon of soil every month. Another typical rule of thumb is to transplant when the plant becomes taller than its container.. I personally believe the sooner you get it into its final container the better.
right on fishing. after seeing the increase in root size when i moved it the first time moving her to better digs is on my to do list. but that also means i have to contend with the height of my grow box. for vegging ive got it under a 15 gallon garbage can that stands about 2 1/2 feet tall. so would it be possible to clip the tops of the plant and keep it that tall until i can find a more suitable grow box?

some of the threads ive been reading mention a style of topping that i think would be the most beneficial to this experiment but i was unable to find an age in which to make the cut. i know the root system is good and healthy because she drinks like a fish. with a healthy root system does age really matter all that much?

anyways thanks for the advice about transplanting any advice is better than no advice. mahalo

a few pics from tonight
 

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themullet

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switched buckets yesterday doubled the size of the bucket so now im working with a 2.5 gallon container. unable to go any larger at the moment also going to be moving at the end of month, so that means im vegging an additional 2 weeks :fire: little lady is quite the trooper. not only did i transplant her but i began the lst topping last night.this morning all the branches have adjusted for the shift and getting some sun (light) for the first time. or so i think.

one quesiton about the lst training, from pics that i have seen and journals ive read it looks like almost all of the main branches can be tied down and ball gagged. maybe a little spanking and hot wax as well. only have to get my gimp mask back from the dry cleaner.will put up pics tonight
 

BongFiend420

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first off i have got such a garbage grow happening right now. the grow area is a 15 gallon garbage can flipped over with 3 cfl fixtures at the moment. 23 watts not sure what the lumen count is as i didnt buy them. landlords that pay the light bill are alright guys if you ask me. keeping it extremely low key no other elctricity being used at all except the porn box (PC).
alright here is the meat and potatoes of the whole operation. since this is my first attempt at growing anything im using a mexi schwag seed that i didnt throw out with the rest of them. better to shack up with the town bike then hitting the sack with the porn star first right. practice makes perfect. using mg potting mix as that was the only soil that i could find at the edges of the civilized world.
at the moment the little one is about 4 inches tall above the soil line. plant stretched a bit so buried the first inch and a half to get the plant at a maintainable height. have noticed several weird things with the plant first set of leaves only has 1 main leave with no sign of fingering out. second is that the leaf structure is not symetrical. thinking this is caused by not rotating enough but who knows. garbage breeds garbage.
first question about this plant is when to start training or topping? have to keep it midget style because no room to let it go. the fourth node has started but it is less than an eighth of an inch tall. so no real rush with that answer.:joint: the little bastard just turned two. two weeks that is
23 watt Cfl's are about 1400 lumens each which is pretty good for a single small plant especially if you have 3. This does not mean that the plant wont eventually out grow that light cause it probably will, but until then your lighting is suffiecient. As for the leafs, the initial leaves are usually only one leaf and the symetrical problem could just be uneven lighting and should recorrect itself. Your plant looks very healthy and strong, but I agree with Tfishing that it could definatley use a transplant. Your plant should also be strong enough to top anytime, it looks fairly robust. Hope this help. Happy Growing !
 

themullet

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23 watt Cfl's are about 1400 lumens each which is pretty good for a single small plant especially if you have 3. This does not mean that the plant wont eventually out grow that light cause it probably will, but until then your lighting is suffiecient. As for the leafs, the initial leaves are usually only one leaf and the symetrical problem could just be uneven lighting and should recorrect itself. Your plant looks very healthy and strong, but I agree with Tfishing that it could definatley use a transplant. Your plant should also be strong enough to top anytime, it looks fairly robust. Hope this help. Happy Growing !
thank you bongfiend for the advice and the compliment for the plant. shes looking like a beast tonight as these new pics will show. the new container definetly speeds things up a bit. on the new growth from last night is about 2 inches for the shoots that were hidden under the big fan leaves and a bunch more sprouts off the crotches(?) im thinking that i will have to wrap the original top of the plant around the rim of the container instead of over it in the next week if this growth keeps up but hell im not complaining.
anyways any more ideas from anyone would be greatly appreciated. give the pics a look see. mahalo
 

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themullet

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its been the better part of three weeks since any activity on this site so here is the events is a sort of organized time line.
3 wks ago i left town for one week leaving my plant in the care of a neighbor. the plant was in good shape and nice and squat. oh yeah about two days before this vacation, i moved the little lady into a larger more secure area so this might explain the massive stretching when i returned. when i returned, the main stalks had grown about 4 inches with little to no stretch while the shoots from the bottom of the plant had stetched over 14 inches to become the highest points of the plant.
since the return from the frosted battlefields the amount of tying shit down and adjusting where the foliage is growing. also doing some massive pruning of the branches around the base of the plant.
also today i started sexing so shes in the dark right now. what is a good time to wait until i feel that the plant is for sure showing sex. thinking a week in the dark is going to be more than enough time. plans for after this step is to diuble the lights from the 3 i have on it now to 6 23 wt cfls around the crown and 1 13 wt on each side of the base of the plant. also running out of time before soil has used all nutrients so going to have to look into that. pics later
 

KaleoXxX

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your going to flower it by giving it a" week in the dark is going to be more than enough time"? never heard of this personally. i typically mimic nature and start lowering the amount of light hours every few days untill im down to 12/12
 

themullet

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your going to flower it by giving it a" week in the dark is going to be more than enough time"? never heard of this personally. i typically mimic nature and start lowering the amount of light hours every few days untill im down to 12/12
kaleoxxx thanks for the advice with the light timing. the method ive been using is 24/0 for the vegging light cycle and this week ive went to about 14 on 10 off. not real accurate when the lights go off but theyre usually off by midnight. this catch as catch can method wont hurt the sexing process at all will it? keeping a schedule is nearly impossible without a light timer. so when the move is done i will invest in a timer.

here are the pics that i took this afternoon. as you can see the plant has exploded with new growth easily twice the size after 3 wks. really becoming impressed with the growth speed
 

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josh b

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First thing "wow" for the lights you have,youre plant looks at it healthiest it could possibly great :D.

Im 2 days into 12/12 on a plant with 50w of cfl's and its not even a quater of the size of urs and its been growing for 1 month rofl.
I really want to top it but scared as i dont think it will recover in such poor lighting.

what do you think?,thanks
 

prototypeone

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the plant looks amazing. Looks like they really liked the new lights. As for the light cycle I would go ahead and move it to 12/12 if you already haven't. Remember that when it fully goes into flowering that it can triple in size. Keep up the good work man
 

themullet

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the plant looks amazing. Looks like they really liked the new lights. As for the light cycle I would go ahead and move it to 12/12 if you already haven't. Remember that when it fully goes into flowering that it can triple in size. Keep up the good work man

thanks for the props. :joint: the day is finally here last night in the apartment. gonna wake up in a new house in the morning tomorrrow. meaning the plant gets a proper living space with ample expansion room. sorry prototype, but sadly i did not add any more lights yet. in the near future. so for clarification i am only running 3 23 wt cfls. my only guess for the size of the plant is the soil. im using MG potting mix with that time released nutes. work ive done in the days since the last pics is tied down another 4 inch section of the main stalk and some other taller branche to give the plant more opportunity fill up with a nice even canopy. will add pics when i get situated in the new digs so with out further warning. mahalo

josh thanks as well for the props. the lighting in the pics is nice but alas it is sunlight in my porch. had to take the plant out of the growspace to get a good picture. where i have her growing is extremely cramped with this giant bush
 

themullet

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^^Yo man I live in Minnesota do you too?? damn thats crazy shit!!
yeah i am a fellow traveler from both the ice and snow. aint nothing crazy about it. hopefully we hear your tag for one more year until we can pick up mcnabb or another decent qb. Huck it chuck it football
 
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