Bat Guano

[SnowWhite]

Hey all,

I'm looking for some advice please. I'm in the 5th week of my first grow and all seems to be going ok so far. I am growing totally organically using a Canna Professional Soil mix and BioBizz organic nutes. See my gallery for pics so far.

I'm now thinking about the next phase of my grow and repotting my plants into their final pots before flowering.

So I have been considering using Bat Guano in the flowering stage as I have read it is a good organic source of P, which is good and needed for nice buds. My question is, how best to use it?

Should I mix a bit in with my Canna soil mix when re-potting to final pots? (This mix contains worm castings but no Guano) Or just feed them a nice Guano tea at points during the flowering period, or maybe both?

Just looking for ideas if anyone can help or has experience using Guano on their plants, I would love to hear what you do.....thanks!

 

[beensmoking]

Yea I Have Also Been Thinking Of Using This Due To Me Hearing It Gives Great Results So I Am Also Interested In The Best Way To Use The Bat Guano!!!!!!!!!!

You Like That Biobizz So Far (also Been Looking Into That).

 

[beensmoking]

Also How Much Is That Bat Guano Running$$$ These Days?

 

[SnowWhite]

You Like That Biobizz So Far (also Been Looking Into That).

Yeah man, they're a bit smelly, but that's organics for you...and I'm not even talking about the Fish mix. Won't go there man, I think I might puke!

But yeah, seem to working ok for me so far. I've only really started feeding them in the last week or so though as my soil is pretty rich in organic nutes anyway.

 

[k-town]

Lol Well I Was Gonna Try That Organic Iguana Juice Bloom And Grow!!!!!! Have You Had Any Experience With This Particular Fert. Or Know Someone Who Has? Or Shit Even Heard Anything About It?

 

[beensmoking]

Hey I Was Also Wondering About Organic Iguana Juice Grow And Bloom?? Snow White Have You Ever Used This Or Heard About It?

 

[fdd2blk]

i use guanos. i surface feed. about half a tablespoon or so sprinkled on the surface of the soil in 6" pots. i then mix it in an inch or so. otherwise it hardens on the surface. i will give an occasional bump with some organic bloom burst here and there. i guano fed about every 10 - 14 days. depending on strain.

 

[beensmoking]

Hey Why Your Here How Much Space Do You Think I Will Need For 3 Plants To Flower? Also I Was Planning On Using Lst This Grow If That Makes A Difference!!!!

 

[fdd2blk]

well i had 3 plants that took up 12 square feet at 6' tall. it's up to you. at the smallest i flower at 4" and my plants reach about 16 - 20 " by finish. some stay shorter. depends on strain.

 

[SnowWhite]

i use guanos. i surface feed. about half a tablespoon or so sprinkled on the surface of the soil in 6" pots. i then mix it in an inch or so. otherwise it hardens on the surface. i will give an occasional bump with some organic bloom burst here and there. i guano fed about every 10 - 14 days. depending on strain.

Thanks man, interesting to know how you do it. Do you feed with anything else for sources of P or is it just the Guano during flowering?

 

[cali-high]

i use worm castings

 

[babygro]

Hey all,

I'm looking for some advice please. I'm in the 5th week of my first grow and all seems to be going ok so far. I am growing totally organically using a Canna Professional Soil mix and BioBizz organic nutes.

Firstly, I'm surprised you're using Canna Pro soil and not using Canna's biogrow and bloom - they're probably better organic nutrients than BBizz grow and bloom, and better matched to Canna's soil.

Secondly, don't bother with bat guano - there's really no need to - all you need is Biobizz grow and bloom and epsom salts if you start getting any Mg deficiencies.

Biobizz's feeding schedule is based on growing in Allmix soil and plants from clones and so may not be ideal for your own situation. I've followed this feed schedule and it seems to work well for me, you may need to adjust it for your own circumstances -

Flowering All quantities per litre
Week 1 1mil grow, 1 mil bloom
Week 2 1mil grow, 2 mil bloom
Week 3 1mil grow, 2 mil bloom
Week 4 1mil grow, 3 mil bloom
Week 5 1mil grow, 3 mil bloom
Week 6 2mil grow, 1 mil bloom
Week 7 2mil grow, 1 mil bloom
Week 8 2mil grow, 1 mil bloom
Week 9 2mil grow, 1 mil bloom

No need to flush at the end with organic nutrients.

 

[SnowWhite]

Cheers for your detailed response Babygro. The Canna soil mix is virtually the same as the BioBizz all mix, at least that's what the hydro shop told me.

I did consdier the Canna organic nutes as well, but went for BioBizz in the end. No real reason to be honest, both were highly recommended to me. I also looked at Nirvana's organic nutes as well as that is where I got my seeds.

My feeding schedule is similar to yours so far. Just feeding 1 mil per litre of the BioGrow and Alg-a-mic at the moment, but alternating with clean PH'd water as well. Didn't want to overdo things.

Do you feed with BioBiz every watering?

I'll probably give the Guano a miss this time then and just continue to use the BioBizz nutes as you recommend. At least I know my plants will be familiar with being repotted into the same soil mix. Cheers man!

 

[fdd2blk]

Thanks man, interesting to know how you do it. Do you feed with anything else for sources of P or is it just the Guano during flowering?

guano, turbinado cane sugar, and a bump of fox farms bloom if needed. that's all.

 

[SnowWhite]

guano, turbinado cane sugar, and a bump of fox farms bloom if needed. that's all.

Nice, I bet the plants love that mix! Thanks for the info. It's great to know how you veterans do it. Gives me so many ideas and different things to try for future grows. Respct!

 

[babygro]

My feeding schedule is similar to yours so far. Just feeding 1 mil per litre of the BioGrow and Alg-a-mic at the moment, but alternating with clean PH'd water as well. Didn't want to overdo things.

Be careful with Alg-a-mic, it's very easy to overdo it with that.

Do you feed with BioBiz every watering?

In flowering I do yes, not in vegetative growth.

It's important to understand why you need to feed with liquid nutrients. In an ideal scenario, you wouldn't feed any additional nutrients - because the plant would get as much as it needs to from the soil - but we don't operate in 'ideal scenarios' but we can bring them as close to 'ideal' as we can. From germination and seedling the plant would be in a 4 inch pot, which it would stay in for about 2-3 weeks as it develops it's rootball. Good quality soil (and Canna is good quality soil) should contain sufficient nutrients for 3-4 weeks healthy growth, so if we pot up from the 4 inch pot to 8 inches after about 3 weeks we won't need to feed any additional nutrients. Same applies to the 8 inch pot, where we're again looking for the plant to fill out its rootball before we pot up to it's final pot of 12 inches, so again no nutrient feeding is required. Once in it's final 12 inch pot size, we again wait for it to fill out it's rootball before putting it into flowering, this again should take about 2-3 weeks, so again no nutrient feeding would be required. Once the plant goes into flowering, it's probably only got about 1-2 weeks of nutrients left in the soil and that's when we need to start supplementing the depleted soil nutrients with liquid nutrients at every watering.

This is just a guide - you need your plants to tell you when they want feeding, because every strain is different and will use different quantities of nutrients - you may find that in vegetative growth towards the end of the time in the pot you need to just boost the N a little with a small quantity of BBiz grow or alga-mic - but don't overdo it !

I'll probably give the Guano a miss this time then and just continue to use the BioBizz nutes as you recommend. At least I know my plants will be familiar with being repotted into the same soil mix. Cheers man!

No problem - I wish you well with your grow.

 

[SnowWhite]

Thanks again babygro, that's good advice for me. I waited until my plants had been in their 6" pots for a couple of weeks after repotting before feeding at half strength for the first time. But from what you say, I probably could of gone a bit longer with them just feeding off my nice soil.

I'll watch it with the Alg-a-mic too.

My plan is to put them in their final pots this weekend, then leave 'em to veg and root into their new pots for a couple of weeks under my new 400W HPS, then they'll be going on 12/12.

Like you say, it's all about knowing your plants and responding to what they tell you they need. Less is more and all that!

 

[AnOnion]

hey SnowWhite,
I recently went to the hydro shop and got some complementary bat shit with some BioBizz-Bloom. Its working really nice for me. I started a post until I saw this one and that you and I were using identical nutes, soil, and was wondering about guano! would be odd if we shopped at the same hydro store!

for my guano i put a litre of tap water in an old 1ltr juice bottle and add an air stone to it for 24hrs (gets rid of chlorine in city water and adds oxygen?) then i just put 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of guano in it, add my biobizz products and bubble for a further 24hrs/however long until next watering.

i find the guano settles to the bottom in a very short space of time so everytime i walk in the kitchen i give the mush at the bottom a stab with the air stone or give the bottle a shake just to make sure i get all the goodies

 

[thizzrdie]

I top dress with Bat Guano right b4 it rain. They really take off after that.

 

[jdinaso1225]

hey there
i am interested in the bat guana myself cause its part of the sea of green method.where i shop there are 4 different flavors of bat guano,peruvian,mexican,jamaican and indonesian.so what a grower to do?
can some one help with this please