Petition For An Aerogarden Sub-Forum

[Al B. Fuct]

all these guys are saying you can't have a good grow with an AG. well what's a good grow?

Solid, dense nugs, thick with resin, grown faster than you can smoke them.

Aerogarbages are too physically small to even grow good-yielding plants with the SoG 'flower immediately after clones set root' method to keep them as short as possible. CFLs don't deliver enough light intensity to yield solid buds- you get leafy, fluffy popcorn crap when you flower with with fluoros, whether you are watering them with an Aerogarbage or not.

if i can get 2 oz's per grow, that's awesome for my personal. i dont need to grow 10 plants, so why would i even try?

I guess if you just LIKE fluffy buds from scrawny plants that take 3-4 months to yield anything worth manicuring, righty-o, why would you bother trying to do it right?

 

[AnonGrower420]

Well i can blame u Al for trying to spread a truthful word, i can blame u for being an ass. I build myself a nice DWC. ive read THE ENTIRE AL B FAQT. If it wasnt for the AG we wouldnt have so many brothers picking up indoor growing to try and over throw the government. I know that no amazing quanities of bud are going to come out of AG, i know that the lights fucking blow, and i know it is over priced x100. I wish i knew all of this before i purchased one but that was not the case. The way things worked out AL was the AG seemed like a nice way of switching from soil to hydro. and i was, it taught me the basics so i could build an effective DWC. If i could go back id do something different but it got me started, see where im going? /rant off

 

[n00604173]

i'm just glad that us wanting our own forum turned into this shitfuck of an argument.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

Well i can blame u Al for trying to spread a truthful word, i can blame u for being an ass. I build myself a nice DWC. ive read THE ENTIRE AL B FAQT. If it wasnt for the AG we wouldnt have so many brothers picking up indoor growing to try and over throw the government. I know that no amazing quanities of bud are going to come out of AG, i know that the lights fucking blow, and i know it is over priced x100. I wish i knew all of this before i purchased one but that was not the case. The way things worked out AL was the AG seemed like a nice way of switching from soil to hydro. and i was, it taught me the basics so i could build an effective DWC. If i could go back id do something different but it got me started, see where im going? /rant off

You'd have learned everything you did from an Aerogarbage just by emulating proper, productive grows you see pictured on boards like RIU- and it would have cost you a lot less dough.

Imagine if you had gotten top results from your first grow without struggling through the first 6 mos with an Aerogarbage? Would you have been happier? I bet you would.

I very seriously doubt that there are more growers now as a direct result of an Aerogarbage. How many wannabe growers got disheartened and went back to buying weed just because their several-hundred dollar investment didn't produce the solid nugs they have been buying from competent, learned growers for oh-so-many years?

For some research, a bit of ingenuity and less than 1/3 of the price of a new Aerogarbage, you can have a 400HPS pounding ($119 @ HTG) out 2oz of solid nugs every 2 weeks or 8oz every 2 mos.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

i'm just glad that us wanting our own forum turned into this shitfuck of an argument.

No argument at all, much less a shitfuck of one!

I just keep stating the facts and restating them.

Why would you pay more to grow inferior buds, more slowly than by proper methods?

Worse, why would you come to the defence of an inferior method, unless you had some emotional connection to doing it wrong?

 

[n00604173]

thank you al b fuct. dually noted information. as soon as i have that money and dwc plans, i'll get to work. but the 60 total dollars i have invested in my AG and a 2 1/2 month grow isn't that bad

 

[directional]

Aerogarden works fine for vegging IMO... I got a HPS to flower with in a couple of days. I am also going to supplement with CFLs to point from the floor up.

Aerogarden was an expensive bucket w/ a fish pump, and timer but I like how the light scales up and down to eliminate stretching. It's a little expensive but if you can afford it why not.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

I got a HPS to flower with in a couple of days. I am also going to supplement with CFLs to point from the floor up.

If you flower your clones as soon as they have a good spray of roots, no veg time between setting root & flowering, plants remain short and do not require any fill lighting.

Adding CFLs to a decent sized HPS is like adding a model airplane engine to a 747. There's THAT much difference. Any bud flowered primarily with CFL will be fluffy & weedy.

 

[ripz]

i was thinking might be good for cloning with a humidity dome over it. but im gonna unsubscribe from this thread now anyway way too much hostility when all i've done is ask for info. i thought that was what we were here for. sicc take a valium or something mate

 

[HomeGrownHairy]

i'm just glad that us wanting our own forum turned into this shitfuck of an argument.

Yeah, that's sad.

I don't want to grow weed to sell it. This is not a profit making venture for me and the AG is an option and it looks like it will produce what I can personally use.. I can tell by the neg responses, they have not read the threads. They don't understand I can trick it out to suit my needs and I dont want the hastle of stealthing a larger grow. I could care less it cost $200 for my AG200, another $100 for my 150 hps and another couple hundred for lights, nutes, etc, etc, etc. It's my money I'm spending and I'm not fattening a dealers wallet. Ahhh, that's the rub here, I think. if I can grow it, I won't be buying it.

If you guys don't approve, why not just spend your time doing something else. Hire a lobbyish to protest it in Washington. You dont have to put me down for doing it the way I want to do it. I'm having fun so " Don't rain on my parade."

All we are asking for is a tiny little section is this forum dedicated to what we want to do.

 

[HomeGrownHairy]

i was thinking might be good for cloning with a humidity dome over it. but im gonna unsubscribe from this thread now anyway way too much hostility when all i've done is ask for info. i thought that was what we were here for. sicc take a valium or something mate

No, you havent been asking for info. You've been bashing. Go read your posts again.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

. I could care less it cost $200 for my AG200, another $100 for my 150 hps and another couple hundred for lights, nutes, etc, etc, etc.

Why would you spend $200 on something that just waters plants (and that's all an Aerogarbage does), if you're going to immediately replace the weak CFL lighting with HPS anyway? It's like jacking up the radiator cap on a Hyundai and driving a BMW under it.

Why not spend a little time researching and then $50 at the hdwe store to make a simple watering system and use the remaining $150 on improved ventilation?

 

[Old in the Way]

Hey Al,

If your back, I now have my grow in a link below....really could use your help on a couple things that nobody seems to have experience with.....

Thanks for all you help in Sep/Oct....check out the AlB-Tribute action in those threads....

Thanks again mate

 

[Al B. Fuct]

Hey Al,

If your back, I now have my grow in a link below....really could use your help on a couple things that nobody seems to have experience with.....

Thanks for all you help in Sep/Oct....check out the AlB-Tribute action in those threads....

Thanks again mate

You're quite welcome, but I'm not really 'back,' as it were. It's just Sunday AM here in Aus and I have a couple of spare hours, which I've already succeeded in burning up- and then some. I'm now working a paying gig running some websites, aside from running my op of course, and I really don't have time to walk folks through grows anymore.

I'll look in on your thread and see if there's anything that jumps out at me, will comment if I can, but this is going to necessarily be a very rare appearance on RIU for me.

 

[lopezri]

I don't want to sound like an ass or anything here but if you're just using the AG for your own personal grow, what's the big deal what kind of yield you are getting or if it's fluffy or juicy, as long as the person using the AG for their own grow is happy with it, who cares? I kind of get the indication that all the naysayers regarding the AG are just upset that there is something out there that is available for people to start growing their own stuff instead of depending on the commercial growers to supply them their weed. Maybe they are just pissed off that the AG is cutting into their profits because now people don't need growers/dealers to provide them what they want.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

I don't want to sound like an ass or anything here but if you're just using the AG for your own personal grow, what's the big deal what kind of yield you are getting or if it's fluffy or juicy, as long as the person using the AG for their own grow is happy with it, who cares?

Would you rather have 2 oz of bumfluff every 12 weeks or 2 oz of solid nugs every 2 weeks?

I kind of get the indication that all the naysayers regarding the AG are just upset that there is something out there that is available for people to start growing their own stuff instead of depending on the commercial growers to supply them their weed. Maybe they are just pissed off that the AG is cutting into their profits because now people don't need growers/dealers to provide them what they want.

You can come up with any conspiracy theory you like, but the beginning and end of it all is that a standard Aerogarbage grows poor quality buds and does so slowly, for spot on triple the cost of doing it right.

Life's too short to grow crappy dope.

 

[Old in the Way]

You're quite welcome, but I'm not really 'back,' as it were. It's just Sunday AM here in Aus and I have a couple of spare hours, which I've already succeeded in burning up- and then some. I'm now working a paying gig running some websites, aside from running my op of course, and I really don't have time to walk folks through grows anymore.

I'll look in on your thread and see if there's anything that jumps out at me, will comment if I can, but this is going to necessarily be a very rare appearance on RIU for me.

As I figured, couldn't resist interjecting on the Aerogarbage--I find myself unable to resist at times as well....

Glad to here things are going well with your new ventures....I am sure you are an invaluable addition to any site.....

I have too much spare time so I have felt the need to give back/perpetuate your advice to assist where I can and have noticed a few others doing the same....we are picking up the slack....it was amazing how quickly the folk lkore returned after you left.....yikes!

Anyway, I am glad you can at least check out the grow..........

FYI--most of my issues are related to Mg and Maybe PK issues....look closely and you will see the crop that is most mature is all f'd up....they have been getting progressively better---but still lots of imperfection.

Happy to report everything else (temps, RH, Ph, etc) is running quite nicely.

-OitW

 

[onlypurpz]

Life's too short to grow crappy dope.

+1.

OPZ

 

[pantzmtb]

Al B.-- go check out my ag thread in my sig and tell me its a piece of garbage!
Tell me what the aerogarden lacks that makes your grows that much better??
I live in cali, i been to big grow ops and those guys are givin my lil system mad props..

And to the other guy talkin trash, ur running 3 security lamps for your grow, you have no room to speak IMO.

 

[Old in the Way]

Al B.-- go check out my ag thread in my sig and tell me its a piece of garbage!
Tell me what the aerogarden lacks that makes your grows that much better??
I live in cali, i been to big grow ops and those guys are givin my lil system mad props..

And to the other guy talkin trash, ur running 3 security lamps for your grow, you have no room to speak IMO.

LOL....I know you aren't referring to my grow as the three security lights op right....You didn't look to closely at my threads if this doesn't qualify as a grow room