How common are herms?

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oodawg

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My first indoor grow with feminized seeds. The plants are really impressing me finishing up 2 weeks of flower. All plants are already frosting up and have been praying everyday. Going through the plants over the last week though and I found at least 1 or 2 male flowers or balls on each plant. Pollen sack didn't open yet. They were all down low on some scraggly larfy branches.

I did leave my plants for 4 days on week 2 of 12/12. I made a gravity drip system and cracked it open to water them while I was gone. Came back and the plants were kicking ass but I'm sure it wasn't ideal not sure if I just flooded the hell out of them for a day ND a half and they dried back or what.

Either way I'm sure it's something I did and not just genetics as I found one on every plant, 4 different breeders. Just wondering how common people find a male flower or two on their indoor grows? These plants have been doing great compared to my outdoor last year which took a beating in the desert out here but I never found any herms in my outdoor. Is the larfy chit herming because the light just isn't doing it down there?
 
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conor c

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Its common in some lines you can influence it obviously by stress and stuff imo its down to genetics and the breeder if you only use firm sexually stable parents then you should produce stable offspring for the most part unfortunately alot of breeders dont do whats needed the good ones will some may disagree with me its just how i see it
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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conor c said:
Its common in some lines you can influence it obviously by stress and stuff imo its down to genetics and the breeder if you only use firm sexually stable parents then you should produce stable offspring for the most part unfortunately alot of breeders dont do whats needed the good ones will some may disagree with me its just how i see it
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I don’t disagree but he is talking like two balls on each plant
That isn’t a hermie issue in my view
 
xtsho

xtsho

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It's much more common today than it used to be with the way people are stressing their plants from over fertilization and other kinds of stress factors. I've never heard of lack of light on the lower portion of a plant being the cause.

The only true herms I've ever had were from landrace seeds and that wasn't surprising. Other than that I've only had a few nanners start showing very late in flower and close to harvest.
 
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conor c

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MickFoster said:
A pic would help........but I agree with @Herb & Suds.........probably swollen calyx's.
I've been growing feminized seeds for many years and I have never had a hermie.
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See idk cos ve seen hermies in fems and regs i wouldnt say it comes down to that ive even seen a herm that was grown perfect 0 stress it was just genetic and bagseed a friend was growing and clearly it wasnt good genes and i mean this guy is one of the best growers of anything ive ever met not just weed so take what you will from that all i know is it reinforced my opinion
 
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oodawg

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Found quite a few more today, I definitely think it's something I'm doing or environment. The bottom of the plants were pretty full where the balls were were all down low where it looks like the fan leaves were getting beat around d pretty good. Wind stress/damage? Poor circulation? Maybe I just suck at growing. The plants otherwise seem healthy and the main colas are looking great. I trimmed up the bottom 3rd of the plants pretty good this morning and tried to open up areas that were flapping in the wind. Hope I didn't stress then out even more. I hadn't trimmed since the stretch and wad reluctant to while they were flowering. But I cut out any branch I saw balls on and lower larfy stuff. Chit man I thought I was doing good.
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mudballs

mudballs

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Im guessing it's a trait you can actually, accidentally, breed for. Like any other trait....it's a coincidence perhaps that small hermie got passed on so many times it's gonna happen no matter what
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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dont leave these leaf stems i pointed with an arrow they are potential breeding ground for fungi when you pull the leaves towards the pot they usually break off completely without leaving anything behind
and the part i encircled looks kinda like a male organ atleast to me but if that is all i wouldnt worry about it.
 

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Babalonian

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oodawg said:
The one above my thumb is a swollen calyx, the node below my thumb is a shiny ball. I wish it were just a calyx.
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Some men prefer them big, some prefer them soft, and some prefer them perky. Butchyaknowhat? Sometime we don’t have any say in the matter and what fate and fortune slaps us in the face with.

That being said, the one below your thumb looks like a swollen calyx. I’m 90% sure. Going 100 if you could get your camera to focus and take a picture a lot closer.
 
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conor c

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mudballs said:
Im guessing it's a trait you can actually, accidentally, breed for. Like any other trait....it's a coincidence perhaps that small hermie got passed on so many times it's gonna happen no matter what
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Yeah exactly without stress testing your taking chances
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Is this the only closeup you have? Take a few of what you think are balls on the other plants. Or pluck a couple, put them on something, and take a closeup.


 
mudballs

mudballs

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conor c said:
Yeah exactly without stress testing your taking chances
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I saw this post once from meangene on IG...somehow hermies came up and he said "i used to sweat that stuff and then i realized all i can do is grow them out and if it doesn't happen there's nothing else i can do"
I personally do not stress test, but im leaning hard on the fact i grow outdoors. I know what a bad trait is so just gonna elem when it happens. Not sure how far an indoor needs to be taken, they're already under suprabiological life cycle. Shit id call that a stress test on its own to survive.
 
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