Micro ebb/flow (NOW DWC), all CFL ScrOG, perpetual Stealth locker

GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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koolhand77 said:
That is the shit. looks like you took clones and went right into 12/12. nice work man Rep for you
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Hutch said:
Damn those are some nice lil nugs Gypsy! Did you run thos clones 12/12 from the start?
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Thanks Guys... pretty fun grow... inside of a nightstand in a hotel room... lol...

Not too bad...lol...:bigjoint:

And yeah... I flowered 3"high clones and LST'd the branches ans they grew...


diggitydank420 said:
^^^^^^^^^
That's the 420th post on this thread!

You win +rep!!! (more for the pic than the count)
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Well Thank You... Thank You very Much...

Cheers guys...

Gypsy...:weed:
 
boricuaboi

boricuaboi

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Wolfman Zen said:
Going through some rough times, and not wanting to pay some one else for my medicine, I decided to grow my own. Something I should have done a long time ago. I will admit, it was just easer to buy what you needed when you needed. However the local supply is less then desirable :(.


So it begins...

First thing is deciding what kind of grow... I don't need much so a micro cab grow would be perfect for me... looking around the house I picked this locker cab as the base of my grow.



I'll start with the top half, which has is separated into 2 chambers by a removable and hight adjustable shelf. I plan to use the top chamber for budding and the lower chamber for a clone mother and clones. I will work on the lower half later as my grow gets going.


I'm going for stealth, small scale and ease of use not to mention low cost. A trip to the city and about a $100 later I'm ready to get creative.




Used mylar emergency blankets to coat the inside for maximum reflection.





Will be using a plastic shoe box tub for a 4 plant cloner.


I could have drilled out 6 holes, but 4 is all I need.


The cloner will be DWC with an air pump feeding an airstone to oxygenate the solution. All the bubbles popping on the surface creates a fine mist giving it an aeroponics effect. Clones love that. The small tub has been completely covered with reflective chrome duct tape to keep light out, and reflect it back into the cab.


This is a great time to germinate some beans


Cut a clear plastic cup. Fold and role up a paper towel in the cup. Place 5 beans between the side of the cup and the paper towel. Add some water and keep it in a warm and dark place. Sneaking a peak everyday to add water and check for tap roots.




Drilled out a hole for and exhaust fan, I may add another later. Also a utility hole for the cables. Also put in the lights... As of now I will be using 4 24w daylight cfl's I have 2 extras in case I need them or to have quick replacements in case one burns out. Later when I change this chamber to budding I will be replacing them with soft white cfl's, and move the daylight cfl's down to the clone/mother chamber. As you can tell my cab will be easily adapted as things progress.


Wow those cfl's are bright. I was starting to doubt my cfl theory but after turning them on for the first time, I'm sure things will turn out just fine. It doesn't seem like heat will be a problem eather. I may not have to add a 2nd exhaust fan after all. Not sure if you can see in the pic, but I have also made a simple screen using paint mixing sticks and nylon black thread. I used the shelf as a template, and the existing shelf pins to hold it in place. You can also see the cloner in the lower chamber, it's a perfect fit.. the mother will be in a soil pot next to it.


Test fitting the tubs I will be using for the ebb/flow unit, and I'm all ready seeing a hight/space problem. This may force me to change my design, but for now I will finish it just as a learning experience =].


Using another shoe box bin for the flood unit with 2 plants. Using 3" net pots



I used a shorter but wider "pencil box" bin for the solution reservoir. Notice the flap door I cut out for adding nute's and checking ph. A small marine pump will pump the solution to the flood unit, plugged in to a timer set to turn on every hour for 15min's each hour.


here you can see the flood unit on top of the reservoir. On the left is the flood and drain tube coming up from the pump. On the right is the overflow tube the controls the flood level.


In action


The overflow tube.. notice the little v notches. these help regulate the flow, and keep everything quite.


All put together, and in place..unfortunately I have decided to change the design and will be taking the whole unit apart do to space. =[ But will keep the design in mind for future grows. =]


ah, and the miracle of life begins =]
I noticed this little tap root just a day after placing the seeds in the cup. The next day 2 others cracked.. Things are moving on nicely =]


Changing the design of the grow, seedlings well on there way, and supplies unavailable for at least anther week, when I head back into the city. I do with what I have... I will be using the reservoir as a temp 4 plant dwc unit. I removed the marine pump and replaced it with the airstone/airpump from the cloner unit.





I also turned the flood unit into a 2 plant dwc unit. It will have it's own air stone. It fits nicely in the budding chamber. In fact I will be adding another side by side, giving me 4 plants in the budding chamber though it may be overkill, it will undoubtedly give me more bud sites. I plan to flower the clones as soon as they establish roots, keeping them short. If 4 plants prove to be too much for the space, then I will mover 2 of them to the lower half of the cab under the clone/mother chamber.


Up date... as I was typing this out, I peaked at the rest of the beans and one more has cracked.. Not sure if any more were going to crack, I placed an extra bean in the cup... as of now I have 4 out of 6 crack.. I will leave the other 2 in the cup for another couple of days, if they to crack I will give them away to a fellow medical marijuana patient =]

By the way, the seeds come from a local medical marijuana patient giving to me by a trusted 3rd party who told me they were White Widow or White Widow Cross? I will try to find out more, in aether case I am greatfull =]

I also have access to ak47 clones, if things were to go wrong with my seedlings.
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fucking genius!!!
 
boricuaboi

boricuaboi

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o questions!!!

  1. what nuts do you use?
  2. do you own a ec meter or how do you administer your nutes?
  3. what sizes are the shoe boxes i have one that 12qts can i use that?
 
Wolfman Zen

Wolfman Zen

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Well guys I've been withough internet for a while now, and it looks like I won't be getting it back on soon....
I want to thank again for all those who have posted and sorry I wont be able to respond to everyone....
I was able to come down here and upload some pix for you all.... you know I couln't just leave you hanging =]
Here are some pics right before harvest... the trichs are mostly cloudly with a hint of color... I harvested early for several reasons.... mostly cuz I couln't stand the suspence anymore lol...









Here is a branche with out being trimmed...

.... and here are some pics of it all trimmed up... not alot.. but it's my first harvest... and I'm happy with it.

This is from my larger plant...


.... and from the smaller plant...


Here is how I dried the nugs.... the pyle on the left is from the smaller plant... and on the right is from the larger plant... it dryed in a week with the exhoust light on.. (no lights).. then I cured in a glass jar for 1 to 2 weeks... I also water cured a handfull (not seen here) of buds... but didn't like it... so I'm sticking with normal dry and cure methode.. just for taste alone...

And now for the smoke report..... Oh it was great!!.. mostly cuz it was my own homegrown and it was free lol... but it did have a very sweet melon like scent and taste... the high wasn't mind blowing but it was nice and it lasted for about an houre before having to take more hits..... I couldn't have left it on the plant lounger and will do so next time... more importantly..... IT WAS WAY BETTER THEN ANYTHING I CAN GET ON THE STREET!!!!
And here is round 2... less experamenting this time and more of just growing buds.... I ditched the scrog methode of training and will be sticking to tiedown methode from here on... I just find it easer and you can move your plants in and out with out any problems...

4 plants ontop and 2 plants in the middle chamber... 2 weeks apart.

These were clones... and as soon as they had roots they were put into 12/12 with no veg time inbetween (trying to keep them small)

2 weeks later I added these 2 to the mid chamber...

a few days later...


Since my timers between the vegging and flowering chambers were off... they got a bit of light stress and sure enough some hermie action... no problem I simpley pinched off the balls as I saw them... all new growth had no balls from there on, and I fixed the defrence in time between veg and flowering chambers (veg chamber had a defrent style timer that would loos an hour a day!)



A few days later we had hairs...




The new girls are growing like crazy and it's time to take hem out and start training them..



 
Wolfman Zen

Wolfman Zen

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Thats a better looking canopy..




Things are moving along nicely....









Lower flowering chamber had to be trained as well...

Top canopy is looking great with lots and lots of bud sights... I can't wait to see this harvest!!











Well thats all for now, and I do have to run.... I don't know when I'll be back to I want to thank all of you... this sight... and the friends I made... I hope to be back soon, but untill then... POSITIVE VIBES TO ALL YOUR GROWING ADVENTURES!!! =]
 
caligro

caligro

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hey dude, i just pretty much read this thread from begining to end right now haha AWESOME yeild using cfl's from what i can see! I'm super new to the whole growing thing and am still deciding how I'd like to go about doing this.....is there any disadvantage to just planting the seeds in potting soil when using cfl's? or why did you decide against it? ....just curious, any help would be awesome, thanks
 
AsbestosToast

AsbestosToast

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Wow zen, congrats. You must be pretty happy with it. I tried to give you +rep, but it wouldn't let me. Said I need to spread it around before giving you more ;]
Happy Smoking!!!
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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SlowToker said:
What strain is this in the mini garden?
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Me? uh...

Unknown Alaskan back country strain.... kept around by the old hippies...

I really don't have it's real name, but it has been kept around for being an all around good high, above avg production and unbelievable hardiness...

Deff. not gourmet shit, but very acceptable to me....

Cheers...

Gypsy...:joint::peace:
 
dos lunge

dos lunge

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giggity giggity. I have seen the light, and it is DWC. Thanks for this thread, bro. Educational, dramatic, emotional. I was on the edge of my chair. Definitely saving this thread for future reference. +rep.
 
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