Why are there so many Trump supporters on RIU?

[tangerinegreen555]

How so? I'm just drinking some beer and having a good time.

Having a good time drinking beer and saying we need a wall?

That's just silly.

 

[sixgunshooter]

Having a good time drinking beer and saying we need a wall?

That's just silly.

Whoever told you that I'm not silly?

 

[Fogdog]

So, the three guys that bitch and the cards against humanity people are the majority now? Some article you read in Vice is not how people see the wall. People are raped and murdered all the time at the border. Immigrant and citizen. 1/3 migrants in that caravan had some sort of sexual violence perpetrated against them.

It's wrong. Mexico and other countries should fix their problems, not cower in fear of the cartels.

Your idea of "bitching" is to give you reasons why you are wrong?

They produced facts that show the wall isn't worth the $50 billion required to span the border. What's currently on the table is 8 or 9 billion to span 25% of the border. We can spend the money much more wisely than that. The wall is just for show. Not worth it.

 

[UncleBuck]

Nobody is backpeddling. Nobody is saying anything that you think they are, and nobody cares what you think, either.

But you're right, no way I own my own house or anything like that. I mean it's not like I have 7k worth of equipment or anything like that.

I'll just start reading snopes like you.

a WHOLE $7,000 worth of equipment?

so no truck or trailer, just a standard set of tools + a brake and maybe a winch

and you complain more than anyone i've seen since our dearly departed methigan

i think we'll go with someone else for our $12 an hour hole digging and trash hauling job.

but thanks for your interest

 

[sixgunshooter]

Your idea of "bitching" is to give you reasons why you are wrong?

They produced facts that show the wall isn't worth the $50 billion required to span the border. What's currently on the table is 8 or 9 billion to span 25% of the border. We can spend the money much more wisely than that. The wall is just for show. Not worth it.

Personally? I wish it wasn't a problem. If we had resources and unlimited energy there would be no problem with people immigrating here. Don't think for a second that I don't like the idea of open borders.

Maybe if we get our asses in check and try to do something to save the environment.

There are 60 nuclear plants in the US. They produce 20% of our electricity. We would need 270 to be completely unreliant on fossil fuels. It costs 700 million to build a reactor. Let's make it a billion. So for 270 billion, we could go nuclear.

In france the average family pays 700 euros for their electricity. Imagine if you will, the $200 electric bill for a grower pushing 5kw.

We could grow all our plants that are profitable hydroponically under artificial light.

I'm not an idiot. I'm not a racist. I just want it to be harder for people to come here. And if we could? I wish we could afford and support anyone that wants to come here. We have nothing but open land for thousands of miles. It's not like Australia where they have tons of land but none of it is habitable.

I'm drunk now, lol

 

[hotrodharley]

Personally? I wish it wasn't a problem. If we had resources and unlimited energy there would be no problem with people immigrating here. Don't think for a second that I don't like the idea of open borders.

Maybe if we get our asses in check and try to do something to save the environment.

There are 60 nuclear plants in the US. They produce 20% of our electricity. We would need 270 to be completely unreliant on fossil fuels. It costs 700 million to build a reactor. Let's make it a billion. So for 270 billion, we could go nuclear.

In france the average family pays 700 euros for their electricity. Imagine if you will, the $200 electric bill for a grower pushing 5kw.

We could grow all our plants that are profitable hydroponically under artificial light.

I'm not an idiot. I'm not a racist. I just want it to be harder for people to come here. And if we could? I wish we could afford and support anyone that wants to come here. We have nothing but open land for thousands of miles. It's not like Australia where they have tons of land but none of it is habitable.

I'm drunk now, lol

Dream on. This country of immigrants will be advertising for them soon. Doubt that? Look at the birthrate for Americans in general. Want more? White fertility rates are the lowest. With a birthrate that cannot replace the dead it's immigrant time.

 

[sixgunshooter]

Dream on. This country of immigrants will be advertising for them soon. Doubt that? Look at the birthrate for Americans in general. Want more? White fertility rates are the lowest. With a birthrate that cannot replace the dead it's immigrant time.

All post industrial societies have a negative birth rate. This is not a bad thing. Depopulation wouldn't be a problem if we didn't rely on Ponzi schemes like SS for our retirement.

 

[hotrodharley]

All post industrial societies have a negative birth rate. This is not a bad thing. Depopulation wouldn't be a problem if we didn't rely on Ponzi schemes like SS for our retirement.

Tell Japan and Germany it's not bad. That's how the migration problems started for Germany. Japan is, for the first time in its history, is seeking PERMANENT immigrants. They've never allowed immigrants. Now they are seeking them. Beer talk and dreams don't always work out in practice. Good shit to shoot in the shop. But it ain't realistic.

 

[sixgunshooter]

Tell Japan and Germany it's not bad. That's how the migration problems started for Germany. Japan is, for the first time in its history, is seeking PERMANENT immigrants. They've never allowed immigrants. Now they are seeking them. Beer talk and dreams don't always work out in practice. Good shit to shoot in the shop. But it ain't realistic.

I have a friend who wants to move to Japan. He was quite gifted and went to Rosemary hall. Which is funny. Dubya went there. He visited in 1999, and he said "Look around you. All of you A students, we salute you. All you B students, we appreciate you and your hard work. Now as for you C students, one day you could become the president of the United States."

 

[hotrodharley]

I have a friend who wants to move to Japan. He was quite gifted and went to Rosemary hall. Which is funny. Dubya went there. He visited in 1999, and he said "Look around you. All of you A students, we salute you. All you B students, we appreciate you and your hard work. Now as for you C students, one day you could become the president of the United States."

If you want an income it requires an ever-expanding economy. Hopefully all can understand that basic principle of economics despite whatever political system is in place. Including outright communist countries. Zero population growth kills that in the womb. "Ponzi scheme" Social Security? You would replace that with what? Have you had the pleasure of conversing with Rob Roy yet?

 

[sixgunshooter]

If you want an income it requires an ever-expanding economy. Hopefully all can understand that basic principle of economics despite whatever political system is in place. Including outright communist countries. Zero population growth kills that in the womb. "Ponzi scheme" Social Security? You would replace that with what? Have you had the pleasure of conversing with Rob Roy yet?

Nope. Sounds fun. I like discourse, as long as it remains civil.

 

[hotrodharley]

Nope. Sounds fun. I like discourse, as long as it remains civil.

He's your boy.

I don't suffer fools myself.

 

[sixgunshooter]

If you want an income it requires an ever-expanding economy. Hopefully all can understand that basic principle of economics despite whatever political system is in place. Including outright communist countries. Zero population growth kills that in the womb. "Ponzi scheme" Social Security? You would replace that with what? Have you had the pleasure of conversing with Rob Roy yet?

Ever notice that the christians that laugh when they feed muslims pork and make them drink alcohol are so angry when they destroy a Megachurch? Communism. That's a giant debate in of itself. Because we have housing assistance, we have food stamps, we have welfare. What part of a communist system do we lack, other than the lack of healthcare. I would rather see a mandate making employers provide health insurance than medicare for all.

 

[hotrodharley]

I would rather see a mandate making employers provide health insurance than medicare for all.

You'll see pigs fly aerobatics first. Are you a native born American?

 

[sixgunshooter]

You'll see pigs fly aerobatics first. Are you a native born American?

As native as they come. We have our problems, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But, I have never left the Americas. Mexico wasn't bad. My rich Aunt ordered a bunch of marble tile from Mexico when I was about 12. Being a kid, I ate Burger King instead of a mexican place. Which was probably a good choice. I like Tex Mex and southern california style mexican food the best. I'm not too big on alot of it. Especially those places that don't drain their beef. Maybe I would see something in Asia or Europe that would appeal to me. My uncle has invited me to go see the holy land with him. I think it would be cool to drink from the well of prophets, religion being real or not, those men existed.

 

[hotrodharley]

Religion came about when the first con man met the first fool.

I ate with Geronimo's only son back in the early 60's. He would sit at this roadstop cafe and service station. Probably hoping he'd be fed. I would rather eat with him than some religious freak.

 

[Fogdog]

Personally? I wish it wasn't a problem. If we had resources and unlimited energy there would be no problem with people immigrating here. Don't think for a second that I don't like the idea of open borders.

Maybe if we get our asses in check and try to do something to save the environment.

There are 60 nuclear plants in the US. They produce 20% of our electricity. We would need 270 to be completely unreliant on fossil fuels. It costs 700 million to build a reactor. Let's make it a billion. So for 270 billion, we could go nuclear.

In france the average family pays 700 euros for their electricity. Imagine if you will, the $200 electric bill for a grower pushing 5kw.

We could grow all our plants that are profitable hydroponically under artificial light.

I'm not an idiot. I'm not a racist. I just want it to be harder for people to come here. And if we could? I wish we could afford and support anyone that wants to come here. We have nothing but open land for thousands of miles. It's not like Australia where they have tons of land but none of it is habitable.

I'm drunk now, lol

exactly, we don't have unlimited resources, we must spend them where they make the most sense and so the wall is a dumb idea. It's all been explained to you but of course, Trumpkins only talk, they don't listen.

Reasoning isn't bitching. Bitching is insisting on having what adults have already explained to you why what you want isn't reasonable. So, quit bitching already.

 

[sixgunshooter]

Religion came about when the first con man met the first fool.

Yep. Religion is the opium of the masses. Like take the 10 commandments. I would think, Thou shalt not take another man as a slave" would have been on the list.

 

[hotrodharley]

Yep. Religion is the opium of the masses. Like take the 10 commandments. I would think, Thou shalt not take another man as a slave" would have been on the list.

History is written by the victor

 

[sixgunshooter]

exactly, we don't have unlimited resources, we must spend them where they make the most sense and so the wall is a dumb idea. It's all been explained to you but of course, Trumpkins only talk, they don't listen.

Reasoning isn't bitching. Bitching is insisting on having what adults have already explained to you why what you want isn't reasonable. So, quit bitching already.

I'll make you a deal. Trade the wall for 15 nuclear reactors.