is this the middle ages?

[UncleBuck]

Not really. I call it irrelevant, to my point.

I think it would be great if a persons race wasn't something that other people used to judge them by. I think it's a stupid way to judge people. I wish racist business owners didn't exist. I have a right to talk smack about them and to spend my money with more enlightened businesses. You have that right too. However none of that matters.

I, nor you, nor a collection of people, none of us have the right to use or threaten offensive force against another neutral person to force them to serve us, especially on their property. That right doesn't exist. If it does exist, can you tell me where it comes from, if you and I don't possess it? No, you can't.


When you disregard the means you use to achieve the outcome you desire, you will often create unintended consequences. There are other ways to put racists in their place than by trying to rationalize using offensive force. Even a racists has a right not to be forced to serve another person against their will.

You call kicking a peaceful black person out of a restaurant “defensive force”

 

[Rob Roy]

You call kicking a peaceful black person out of a restaurant “defensive force”

If I occupy your property against your will, demand you serve me and threaten force against you if you don't serve me...would you have a right to repel my offensive force with defensive force ? The answer is yes. You can't get around that.

That's why you're

STILL LOSING.

 

[UncleBuck]

If I occupy your property against your will, demand you serve me and threaten force against you if you don't serve me...would you have a right to repel my offensive force with defensive force ? The answer is yes. You can't get around that.

That's why you're

STILL LOSING.

So you open a restaurant and a black guy comes in for a meal and that’s offensive force to you

Gee why does everyone call you a racist

 

[Rob Roy]

So you open a restaurant and a black guy comes in for a meal and that’s offensive force to you

Gee why does everyone call you a racist

That's an inaccurate portrayal of my position.

 

[UncleBuck]

That's an inaccurate portrayal of my position.

So black people dont get booted out of restaurants in your scenario

 

[londonfog]

Not quite.

I don't have a right to use offensive force against you or your justly acquired property. I do have the right to use defensive force to repel offensive force or gain restitution against a person(s).
Do you agree with that ?

Also how would you define property ?

You can't delegate a right you don't possess" ...according to you people can dump trash in front of your home as long as it is not on your property, because you can't delegate a right you don't possess
you are still losing.

 

[Rob Roy]

So black people dont get booted out of restaurants in your scenario

You asked about my restaurant. I don't have one, if I did, I wouldn't use race as a determinant for who I transact with. What other people do with their property is their business. Not mine, not yours.

I don't have to like it or agree with it, but if I don't like what other people do with their property, it doesn't give me the right to enslave them (like you would) does it?

I bet a bazillion dollars you can't tell me where you get the right to force a black guy to serve you against his will.

 

[Rob Roy]

You can't delegate a right you don't possess" ...according to you people can dump trash in front of your home as long as it is not on your property, because you can't delegate a right you don't possess
you are still losing.

It would help your argument if you had said the trash dumper owned the property.

Also, if you believe you can delegate a right you don't possess, why not explain how you can, using math...which you claim to be good at. (this oughta be good) Can you ?

 

[UncleBuck]

You asked about my restaurant. I don't have one, if I did, I wouldn't use race as a determinant for who I transact with. What other people do with their property is their business. Not mine, not yours.

I don't have to like it or agree with it, but if I don't like what other people do with their property, it doesn't give me the right to enslave them (like you would) does it?

I bet a bazillion dollars you can't tell me where you get the right to force a black guy to serve you against his will.

So black people don’t get booted out of restaurants in your scenario

 

[londonfog]

It would help your argument if you had said the trash dumper owned the property.

Also, if you believe you can delegate a right you don't possess, why not explain how you can, using math...which you claim to be good at. (this oughta be good) Can you ?

We don't know who owns the property that trash is being dump on. It could be a private owner or it could be the city, all we know is that it is in front of your property.

If 4 people came on Wednesday and dump 4 stained mattresses on the property, followed by three people dropping off 5 bags of filthy diapers on Thursday and Friday . How much trash and junk would you have by Saturday if 2 more came and dump off two used and worn out sofas. Remember YOU can't delegate a right you don't possess.

 

[londonfog]

@UncleBuck

You're very obtuse. That's not Rob Roy's position at all. He just chooses not to get involved.

Just like many here don't have the balls to call you out on the hypocrisy you do. I have no qualms doing so. Even though it meant getting currently throttled, while you get away with anything you want.

You're exactly like Trump you criticize. He claimed he could murder anyone in Times Square and still not lose votes.

You can keep up taunting people with prostituting youself for $14 while anyone else gets banned or throttled.

If you weren't hiding behind your nepotism you'd have been banned a long time ago like you are on all the other dope sites. You're a liar, coward, and a fraud, but have the nerve to call others that.

I just like screwing with people who are inferior intellect illogical snowflakes. While you're just plain rude and mean.

You seem upset that you can't prostitute yourself for 14 dollars. As you typed that melt down, did tears roll down your cheeks ? Did you taste the saltiness ?

 

[blu3bird]

We don't know who owns the property that trash is being dump on. It could be a private owner or it could be the city, all we know is that it is in front of your property.

If 4 people came on Wednesday and dump 4 stained mattresses on the property, followed by three people dropping off 5 bags of filthy diapers on Thursday and Friday . How much trash and junk would you have by Saturday if 2 more came and dump off two used and worn out sofas. Remember YOU can't delegate a right you don't possess.

I'd report him to the city for having all that trash in front of his property

 

[Ripped Farmer]

So there are people letting all their shit flow down the hill to my house? Hold on I’ll be right back........nope. The guy next door does have a lot of stuff piled out back but if it bothered me I could have it cleaned up, that would make him a slave though and like him. I’m not sure if you were confusing me with another but nope, not living in that world, that’s the one rob the nob envisions.

I wasn't referring to actual poo running down hill. People at the bottom trying to scratch their way to the top and not being able to afford to was what I was referring to.

Sorry to hear that you have to live next to what sounds like a junk yard. Does it smell bad too?

So instead of the poo running downhill, the valley folk are just pilling it up in their own backyards willingly. So the poo is still there, just by choice so no one is complaining anymore.

Government 1 Downhillers 0

 

[UncleBuck]

I wasn't referring to actual poo running down hill. People at the bottom trying to scratch their way to the top and not being able to afford to was what I was referring to.

Sorry to hear that you have to live next to what sounds like a junk yard. Does it smell bad too?

So instead of the poo running downhill, the valley folk are just pilling it up in their own backyards willingly. So the poo is still there, just by choice so no one is complaining anymore.

Government 1 Downhillers 0

How’s your felony tax evasion going, illegal

 

[Fogdog]

I wasn't referring to actual poo running down hill. People at the bottom trying to scratch their way to the top and not being able to afford to was what I was referring to.

Sorry to hear that you have to live next to what sounds like a junk yard. Does it smell bad too?

So instead of the poo running downhill, the valley folk are just pilling it up in their own backyards willingly. So the poo is still there, just by choice so no one is complaining anymore.

Government 1 Downhillers 0

Result of 2018 mid term elections in Oregon:

Super majority of Democrats control the Oregon house of representatives
Super majority of Democrats control the Oregon Senate
Democrat occupies the Governor's seat

Every conservative ballot measure went down in flames including the one that required local law enforcement to bend over when ICE makes a demand.
The one liberal initiative -- to allow cities to create bonds to fund housing for people who are experiencing homelessness passed by a wide margin

Four Democrats elected to the US House of Representatives out of the five Reps from Oregon. Of course you should already know that Democrats now are in control of the US House.

I just thought you should know that you are a losing minority group in Oregon and encourage you to move away to a place where your political stupidity is acceptable. Portland Oregon will never be your kind of people.

 

[Budley Doright]

I wasn't referring to actual poo running down hill. People at the bottom trying to scratch their way to the top and not being able to afford to was what I was referring to.

Sorry to hear that you have to live next to what sounds like a junk yard. Does it smell bad too?

So instead of the poo running downhill, the valley folk are just pilling it up in their own backyards willingly. So the poo is still there, just by choice so no one is complaining anymore.

Government 1 Downhillers 0

No not a junk yard lol. Just lots of stuff, 1969 Pontiac grand sport, 30’ pontoon boat, shit like that. You’d have to understand where I live . As for the poo, well we have rules to stop that kind of shit, if that makes me a slave I’m good with that but thanks for caring about the smell. Not sure why they would willingly pile shit up in their yard, is that what you do for some particular reason?

 

[Budley Doright]

Show me a case where a group of men legally took a vote to rape a woman and then did... Legally.

You have posted a cartoon of that canard.

If you find such a case in the US, I will even say you are winning. But you are losing.

It's ok, Schuylaar likes you.

Is there another budding romance in our midst? That’s nice, but I worry about all that fur and all that silly string. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Is there another budding romance in our midst? That’s nice, but I worry about all that fur and all that silly string. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

Maybe he crept in through the back door in the night and pushed her "like button" over and over.

 

[londonfog]

I'd report him to the city for having all that trash in front of his property

and you will make him your slave when he cleans it up...that may also be a raping ???

 

[Budley Doright]

Maybe he crept in through the back door in the night and pushed her "like button" over and over.

You forgot “pushed the puppy aside”.