Greenpoint seeds!!

hillbill

hillbill

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I have never seen discussion to this extent concerning a store's business model any where I’ve been except in the LED and Other Lighting forum or maybe the price point and marketing of Yeti coolers.

If you want seeds just buy 'em and if you like the results buy more and talk about them here. Meanwhile, grab a Classic Coke
 
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sourgummy

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hillbill said:
I have never seen discussion to this extent concerning a store's business model any where I’ve been except in the LED and Other Lighting forum or maybe the price point and marketing of Yeti coolers.

If you want seeds just buy 'em and if you like the results buy more and talk about them here. Meanwhile, grab a Classic Coke
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I understand and am done with my comments on that topic. People talk when you're successful.

Ok back on track-- everyone was debating/wondering about recharge, the microbe product. That stuff works. I was already thinking about using it and definitely see the improvement in vigor and look of the plants within the 48 hours it says. makes them pray real good.
 
big cfeezzie

big cfeezzie

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sourgummy said:
I understand and am done with my comments on that topic. People talk when you're successful.

Ok back on track-- everyone was debating/wondering about recharge, the microbe product. That stuff works. I was already thinking about using it and definitely see the improvement in vigor and look of the plants within the 48 hours it says. makes them pray real good.
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Just ordered the sample shot gun pack of 3 for 5 dollars. I've been wanting to try it.
 
quiescent

quiescent

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sourgummy said:
Well I would say you are wrong on the one point, this is not how the world works and yes, it is simply greed why the packs cost so much from other companies. wether the greed is with the breeder or the bank, it doesn't matter to the customer. The customer ends up paying the price. As the producer of those seeds, you need to take care of business and make sure they are somewhere people can get em and not bitch and moan you made a bad deal with the vendor for your own product.
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The person running a bank like glg or sol is definitely taking a risk and basically either is breaking tax law or laundering money through a front of some sort, physical or paper. Let us not forget this is still illegal federally, there's a reason why the USPS isn't being used to shop GPS gear right now. They're double dipping on risk, likely triple since they probably grow.


Breeders have these outrageous prices justified because people sell the products from the plants. It's like subcool of old saying hey 75 bucks for 5 seeds is a deal because you can grow the plant and one ounce is like 300 bucks and then you can clone it and sell it....lol he assumes everyone sells.
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Even if you're not selling you're still paying way less to produce an oz than you possibly could get on the black market, let alone the legal market. Seeds are one of the many consumables used to get your flower at the end, they're the biggest thing that can make or break a grow. I'll say it's best to invest wisely and widely in seeds.

So if it came down to GPS having a strain or another bank, not a question where I go, even if it was same price because of the great service GPS offers. Oh then you throw in that it is a better price by a longshot. Well thats business and why GPS is better. That last part is a fact, if GPS has a better price and the same strain, I do believe you would be dumb to purchase elsewhere.
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I know I could get tons of great plants from just a GPS genetic library but I wouldn't have enough variety to keep me interested. The only example of this I can speak of is milkbone. gsc forum x stardawg

edit: If packs were sold for what they're worth at GPS, then why are people bitching about him. They should be saying oh my seeds are better since they sell for higher???? Someone just posted that breeders are complaining he releases elite strains and ruins their price points with his being way lower.
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There might be jealousy based on the volume of transactions he's doing at his lower price point exceeding their incomes on their gear for sure. No denying gu has a good model for making money and is taking advantage of the situation he's found himself in. Gu is understandably going to respond to some of these pokes and jabs from time to time.

I think it's jealousy of the situations all parties find themselves in. Through plain dumb luck, knowing the right people and some business acumen gu is running a successful seed to door operation. Facts are facts here.

Idc about Mike or whoever else's opinion that he should've had anyones blessing to use the male, bs. Some other seed makers are finding males, females, making seeds, some testing (not enough but it's usually all good). These people are the ones that are probably jealous of the situation. Then you've got some just selfing/crossing clone only strains and sometimes you've gotta wade through shit to get to salvation and others are no problemo. These people are probably jealous about the money.

Until Gu finds a gang of females in his gear or others, a male or group of males, (preferred, too many 1x1s out there) reminiscent of dj shorts' style, there's gonna be a legitimate hole to poke into if the seed makers doing more so please.
 
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NoWaistedSpace

NoWaistedSpace

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I have been using Recharge
sourgummy said:
I understand and am done with my comments on that topic. People talk when you're successful.

Ok back on track-- everyone was debating/wondering about recharge, the microbe product. That stuff works. I was already thinking about using it and definitely see the improvement in vigor and look of the plants within the 48 hours it says. makes them pray real good.
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for a year or more, along with "Mammoth P". It definitely works for living soil. Look at the last pic I posted.
 
NoWaistedSpace

NoWaistedSpace

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quiescent said:
The person running a bank like glg or sol is definitely taking a risk and basically either is breaking tax law or laundering money through a front of some sort, physical or paper. Let us not forget this is still illegal federally, there's a reason why the USPS isn't being used to shop GPS gear right now. They're double dipping on risk, likely triple since they probably grow.



Even if you're not selling you're still paying way less to produce an oz than you possibly could get on the black market, let alone the legal market. Seeds are one of the many consumables used to get your flower at the end, they're the biggest thing that can make or break a grow. I'll say it's best to invest wisely and widely in seeds.



I know I could get tons of great plants from just a GPS genetic library but I wouldn't have enough variety to keep me interested. The only example of this I can speak of is milkbone. gsc forum x stardawg

There might be jealousy based on the volume of transactions he's doing at his lower price point exceeding their incomes on their gear for sure. No denying gu has a good model for making money and is taking advantage of the situation he's found himself in. Gu is understandably going to respond to some of these pokes and jabs from time to time.

I think it's jealousy of the situations all parties find themselves in. Through plain dumb luck, knowing the right people and some business acumen gu is running a successful seed to door operation. Facts are facts here.

Idc about Mike or whoever else's opinion that he should've had anyones blessing to use the male, bs. Some other seed makers are finding males, females, making seeds, some testing (not enough but it's usually all good). These people are the ones that are probably jealous of the situation. Then you've got some just selfing/crossing clone only strains and sometimes you've gotta wade through shit to get to salvation and others are no problemo. These people are probably jealous about the money.

Until Gu finds a gang of females in his gear or others, a male or group of males, (preferred, too many 1x1s out there) reminiscent of dj shorts' style, there's gonna be a legitimate hole to poke into if the seed makers doing more so please.
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So Gu has to most likely rely on his customers to find those "special" females in his lines. Cause when the customer finds an outstanding plant, they post a pic for all to see. So who is really selling the seeds for Gu? His customers. He just literally "sowed the seed". It's like anything, 1 good job will get you 10. 1 bad will lose you 10.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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quiescent said:
The person running a bank like glg or sol is definitely taking a risk and basically either is breaking tax law or laundering money through a front of some sort, physical or paper. Let us not forget this is still illegal federally, there's a reason why the USPS isn't being used to shop GPS gear right now. They're double dipping on risk, likely triple since they probably grow.



Even if you're not selling you're still paying way less to produce an oz than you possibly could get on the black market, let alone the legal market. Seeds are one of the many consumables used to get your flower at the end, they're the biggest thing that can make or break a grow. I'll say it's best to invest wisely and widely in seeds.



I know I could get tons of great plants from just a GPS genetic library but I wouldn't have enough variety to keep me interested. The only example of this I can speak of is milkbone. gsc forum x stardawg

There might be jealousy based on the volume of transactions he's doing at his lower price point exceeding their incomes on their gear for sure. No denying gu has a good model for making money and is taking advantage of the situation he's found himself in. Gu is understandably going to respond to some of these pokes and jabs from time to time.

I think it's jealousy of the situations all parties find themselves in. Through plain dumb luck, knowing the right people and some business acumen gu is running a successful seed to door operation. Facts are facts here.

Idc about Mike or whoever else's opinion that he should've had anyones blessing to use the male, bs. Some other seed makers are finding males, females, making seeds, some testing (not enough but it's usually all good). These people are the ones that are probably jealous of the situation. Then you've got some just selfing/crossing clone only strains and sometimes you've gotta wade through shit to get to salvation and others are no problemo. These people are probably jealous about the money.

Until Gu finds a gang of females in his gear or others, a male or group of males, (preferred, too many 1x1s out there) reminiscent of dj shorts' style, there's gonna be a legitimate hole to poke into if the seed makers doing more so please.
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Reminds me of this guy.
And the dollar shave club shook up the razor industry for the same reason -- their prices were way too high.
Not sure why.

Probably tacit collusion... :roll:
 
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sourgummy

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NoWaistedSpace said:
I have been using Recharge

for a year or more, along with "Mammoth P". It definitely works for living soil. Look at the last pic I posted.
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what are you getting mammoth P for $ wise? That is the one thing that stops me from checking it out ever sort of. I have a few others I would like to try to just see what is up since they send out samples. I can't believe those samples are pretty dang good size from what y'all have been saying for the Athena Biosis one I think. I need to get that one for that deal of just shipping.
 
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