4 Inches is all them girls need?

BigHornBuds

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They are just too spendy
As i supported a hydro store for years im trying to stop lol

Now im running the 4-20 mix from chem gro
@ 25 bucks for 5 pounds :)
I’m going to be running tests of maga crop for the next few months . 1 fertilizer start to finish. Also going to be testing Remo & Vitagrow.
 

jonsnow399

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6ixtynin9

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The main thing is establishing a fiberous horizontal root system

After you get it built up then you can put It In whatever size pot you prefer
I just took down some plants this morning. Thought I'd show you this. Roots from the 4 inch system. I just washed off the first half inch of coco and already, roots everywhere.
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The first 4 inch
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After washing off all the coco. Notice no long scraggly deep roots. Just a massive root ball. This is around 10 - 11 inches deep of root mass.
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6ixtynin9

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Yes, that size will work great. I will cut the fabric into 1' x 3' strips and put two strips into a 12" square milk crate. No sewing and that roll would make 8 pots 12" x 12" x 10". When done with pot throw the fabric into the washer.
I just hot glue all of my shit. Quick and simple. I usually keep my grow as clean as possible and never had to throw it in the washer. Just rinse it, soak it in a mild chlorine solution overnight, give it another good rinsing and reuse. But your idea sounds like it would work even better. Just a heads up, if you plan to throw it in the washer, make sure to check the quality of the fabric. Some are made better than others.
 

Cold$moke

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I’m going to be running tests of maga crop for the next few months . 1 fertilizer start to finish. Also going to be testing Remo & Vitagrow.

Thats the last nutrient line i might try
Although i will say i was getting good results
With RAW by npk but i just didnt want to spend the money on such a simple fertilizer
Now that i know more about whats in it.

Basically ill have close to the same thing if i just add the bio stimulants to the chemical mix :)

But the mega crop is interesting
The only reason i didnt chose it over the chem gro. Is that i wanted a clear as possible solution.
 

jonsnow399

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I just hot glue all of my shit. Quick and simple. I usually keep my grow as clean as possible and never had to throw it in the washer. Just rinse it, soak it in a mild chlorine solution overnight, give it another good rinsing and reuse. But your idea sounds like it would work even better. Just a heads up, if you plan to throw it in the washer, make sure to check the quality of the fabric. Some are made better than others.
Yeh, i could glue or sew them together but I don't think its necessary and I'll probably just soak and rinse, the strips should be super easy to clean.
 

Cold$moke

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Yea this experiment is still going but was kinda ill timed..

They will have another 8-10 weeks before they go into their system ha ha.

So they definitely will be air pruned to the max lol

But for the next run im only going to air prune for about 3 weeks tops.

As i found with my clones in the experiment

The roots packed together so tightly after a few weeks of trimming them i was worried it was going to cuase an issue.

And after i stopped prunning which was keeping the plant VERY compact . She exploded with growth !

So im convinced its beneficial but i need to figure out the timing more :)

I will say i will be keeping plants compact by root pruning in my veg room at the very least .

Im probably going to be doing this for a little while :)
 

907guy

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My tap root gets stopped at just a few inches I just realized, I start seeds in 4” rockwool blocks and keep them in the tray until I get several roots out the bottom, which usually happens after the tap root gets air pruned.

From there they go to #1, then #3 and if I go bigger it’s either a #7 or #10, but by the end I can saw through the root mass and it’s usually solid throught the rockwool. I’ll do it to the next big one I take down and post pics.
 

Xs121

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Yea this experiment is still going but was kinda ill timed..

They will have another 8-10 weeks before they go into their system ha ha.

So they definitely will be air pruned to the max lol

But for the next run im only going to air prune for about 3 weeks tops.

As i found with my clones in the experiment

The roots packed together so tightly after a few weeks of trimming them i was worried it was going to cuase an issue.

And after i stopped prunning which was keeping the plant VERY compact . She exploded with growth !

So im convinced its beneficial but i need to figure out the timing more :)

I will say i will be keeping plants compact by root pruning in my veg room at the very least .

Im probably going to be doing this for a little while :)
All plant have this root to above ground ratio. As the plant grows, it continues to maintain this ratio.

As you pruned the root, it creates an imbalance in this ratio, signaling the plant to focus its growth energy to the roots thus the above ground part of the plant (stem, leaves, & branches) received less growth energy (compact size). This is just the plant way of trying to maintain or to bring back that ratio to normal.

The roots by this time though short, have developed multiple branches of its own (still trying to catch up with that ratio). So when you stopped pruning, all these root branches exploded in growth first thus creating an opposite imbalance ratio, this time, there are more roots than the above ground part. Needless to say, the above ground part of the plant will suddenly experience a growth spurt to catch up with the ratio.

Plants will always grow according to this ratio, any plants. This is true on the opposite side too, cut off too much roots and don't let it recover, parts of the above ground will die. Same with heavy pruning of branches, cut off too much of the above ground, parts of the root system will die too.
 

Cold$moke

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This is around the time i quit cutting the roots

Dont mind the color its a mix of kelp and humc that just wont go away lol very annoying now that im in clear nutes
23 days go

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Cold$moke

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Heres the top the other three clones where smaller then the little guy in the above picture
And this is them after a haircut .

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And heres the clone from above
Now the root nub is pretty big for 20 days later
I think at least i could be.baked:)20180221_201610.jpg
 
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