Keeping it simple - Coco + Blumats

Daveindiego

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Im sure the heavy duty totes with the yellow/red lids will work and your right about the bottom drain, you probably won't find one. If you buy a rain barrel drain they have a valve that fits right on it. Also from what I can see, it should have come with a thru hull fitting that you use for the res.
I was hoping to avoid ‘made at home’ modifications to a water holding device.
 

DesertHydro

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You said that you put together that 18 gallon resovoir, did the kit come with the necessary grommet to use for the resovoir?
kits come with a through hull fitting for the 8mm line but there are a few options out there. you can use 1/2" ebb and flow fitting to make a feed line with 1/2" hydro tubing(17$/100') and then just use the 3/32 barbs into that line.

if you are trying to go as plug and play as possible just use the stuff in the kit and drill a whole in any sturdy bin or container. all mine are DIY and no leaks EVER. the 8mm line they come with is a little stiff and hard to work with but it works fine with proper planning

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DesertHydro

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And u reuse the coco? Seems like it would be a pain to do that :(. And have you had any clog up and quit? I'm just trying to weigh these as opposed to drain to waste with timed watering.
i dont reuse my coco but i may start to. with these you arent generally doing giant pots so its not that big of a deal. ive only had clogs when trying to add shit to the res that you shouldnt....ie any organics. if you wanna add kelp, molasses or any other slimy sticky shit just hand water it weekly. all im running is jacks, calnit, epsom and some sm90 to keep the tubes clean and bugs away, plus it smells AMAZING
 

DesertHydro

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sorry to keep posting in your thread, but i figured i would share my recent success. my plants were looking TERRIBLE because of some bad salty coco. flushed the hell out of them, hit the reset button and they are booming back to life. dont mind the two on the front end and the two in the middle right. they were overgrown mothers i took the weed whacker to. getting flipped in a couple days
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xtsho

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You said that you put together that 18 gallon resovoir, did the kit come with the necessary grommet to use for the resovoir?
The set I got came with this. Just drilled a hole about two inches up from the bottom of the 18 gallon tote. It was simple. I keep it filled between 1/3 and 2/3 of the way. Three feet off the ground and at either level it provides enough pressure to gravity feed four blumats. The top of the blumats are 11 inches off the floor.
 

xtsho

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And u reuse the coco? Seems like it would be a pain to do that :(. And have you had any clog up and quit? I'm just trying to weigh these as opposed to drain to waste with timed watering.
No I don't reuse coco. I'm growing in three gallon fabric pots and by the time the plant is don't it's just one big ball of roots that gets chopped up and tossed in the garden. I haven't had any clog but I go through and squeeze along the length the 3mm lines about once a week in case anything's building up. I have had a couple runaways where they kept watering but I think that was due to factors caused by me and not the design of the system. In other words I didn't set the flow properly.

Anyway, blumats might not be for everyone but I'm extremely happy with the system. There is nothing wrong with a timed drain to waste system. I just didn't want to deal with the waste and when I found out about blumats I thought I'd give them a try. Now I don't know how I grew without them.
 

xtsho

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How many carrots per plant do you use?

And how far from the stalk?
I use one per plant in 3 gallon fabric pots of straight coco. 4 - 5 inches from the base of the plant. I put the carrot on one side and the end of the 3mm hose on the other side of the stalk.
 

DesertHydro

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I just don't want to deal with draining the runoff. It can be a hassle.
what are you keeping your ph at? i may have asked already. been having issues with cal/mag uptake and thinking i should have my ph just a tad higher into the cal/mag absorption range closer to 6.2.
i was running 5.8 and they are going deficient again but i know there is plenty of food in there
 

Budley Doright

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I just don't want to deal with draining the runoff. It can be a hassle.
I hear ya and that's also an issue for me. I grow in a shed so water access is a pain in the winter, that's why I'm looking at different ways to set.up the next run
 

Daveindiego

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thats a nice clean setup. i would invest in some extra 8mm line so you can relocate your res out of the tent as soon as you need the space. looking good
Thanks. I still have another 20 feet or so. I wanted to keep it in the tent, and inside that tray, so in case there is a problem, the tray will catch it.
 

Daveindiego

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Questions.

So I set it up, as you see. Filled the reservoir, and have all the carrots closed, but the very last one. I’m not getting any water flow. Is there a period of time where the sensors will adjust before releasing water?

I watered everything a couple of hours before I set this all up, so they are already wet/moist.

Should I just keep all the carrots closed for the night, and try adjusting things in the morning?

Or have I already run into a problem.

All carrots are closed, except the last one, which I have the screw wide open.
 

Budley Doright

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i dont reuse my coco but i may start to. with these you arent generally doing giant pots so its not that big of a deal. ive only had clogs when trying to add shit to the res that you shouldnt....ie any organics. if you wanna add kelp, molasses or any other slimy sticky shit just hand water it weekly. all im running is jacks, calnit, epsom and some sm90 to keep the tubes clean and bugs away, plus it smells AMAZING
So I'm thinking coco perilite or vermeculite may. be a good choice then, I also have about 100 5 gallon grow bags (plastic) that may be a better choice for containers as I can fill to any height and fold over. Thanks for all the ideals guys, I'll keep watching this thread :).
 

DesertHydro

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So I'm thinking coco perilite or vermeculite may. be a good choice then, I also have about 100 5 gallon grow bags (plastic) that may be a better choice for containers as I can fill to any height and fold over. Thanks for all the ideals guys, I'll keep watching this thread :).
i ordered 50 5 gal grow bags and they are fucking HUGE lol. most companies say five gallon and they are way smaller. not these guys. i will also say that 5gal is way too big for coco unless you are doing multiple pound monsters. i like in the 2-3 gal range for mine. you can definitely do the 5 gal but you will burn through your coco supply real quick
 
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