How Does Your Garden Grow??????

vertnugs

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My bug man sprays the yards, so no real ant issues there. But I see my share of them in the garden and in the woods gardens. For the first time, I grew some of my herb garden in pots this past year. 3 or 4 of them had huge ant hills beside them by the time they flowered. I reused the pots in my ill fated spring crop attempt. I shoveled them all flat, and they would build back in a day or two. Deer, grasshoppers and a week and a half in the low 20's {with two nights down to 16-fuckin-F} killed off the plants before the ants could become a problem. But that's another story.
Are you aware of what they use?I can't afford to have some one come out to do it but if i'm able to get a hold of a proven product i'm game.Nothing from home depot has worked for long....maybe a week 2 at the most.


I watched some YT videos of some old dude pouring molten lead in the mounds and then digging them up and washing the dirt off. He was selling the molds it was pretty damn cool. I don't think it to be an effective method of ant control, but just listening to them bastards fry after getting eat up is rewarding.
YES pure art isn't it?I've seem some molds that are just crazy awesome looking.And it shows how good they are at making underground homes.I would actually like to have one myself.

Mom would get so pissed at me and the best friend cause we would use all the charcoal fluid setting huge ant hills on fire.
 

too larry

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Are you aware of what they use?I can't afford to have some one come out to do it but if i'm able to get a hold of a proven product i'm game.Nothing from home depot has worked for long....maybe a week 2 at the most.. . . . . . . ..
I don't know. It's granules though. If I can remember, I'll ask him. {But he only comes every 3 months, and my mind is like a steel trap. Kind of rusty and half sprung} He walks around and sprinkles them on the beds. He is after the smaller ants more than the fire ants. According to him, they are what gets in your walls and shit like that. I had them in one wall not long after we built the house. It was where the electric came in, which happens to be the master bedroom. I woke up one day with ants all over my pillow. Yikes.
 

cannabineer

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Are you aware of what they use?I can't afford to have some one come out to do it but if i'm able to get a hold of a proven product i'm game.Nothing from home depot has worked for long....maybe a week 2 at the most.




YES pure art isn't it?I've seem some molds that are just crazy awesome looking.And it shows how good they are at making underground homes.I would actually like to have one myself.

Mom would get so pissed at me and the best friend cause we would use all the charcoal fluid setting huge ant hills on fire.
Actually the anthill casters I've seen use zinc. It has much lower surface tension than lead.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3383426/
 

Sour Wreck

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do red oak trees count? i just planted 4 red oak acorns that sunk to the bottom of the bucket of water after 24 hours.

5 years ago i planted 4 18" tall sawtooth oaks. the tallest is 8 feet now. i have 5 more on order and i ordered 20 loblolly pine trees seedlings.
 

too larry

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do red oak trees count? i just planted 4 red oak acorns that sunk to the bottom of the bucket of water after 24 hours.

5 years ago i planted 4 18" tall sawtooth oaks. the tallest is 8 feet now. i have 5 more on order and i ordered 20 loblolly pine trees seedlings.
I collect acorns from a couple trees here at work every year. They are the big ass ones. Last year I got 15-20 trees from them. Gave about half of them away. Planted the others around the farm. I think the dry fall got a lot of them. But a few made it, and I have a bunch more acorns that need planting.

I planted 2K longleaf pine tree seedlings the last couple of weeks. 1500 between the garden and graveyard at the house, and after we got our work schedules worked out so we could burn, I planted the other 500 in the skips of our 3 year old longleafs. The roots all had to be trimmed since I was planting with a dibble.

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Sour Wreck

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I collect acorns from a couple trees here at work every year. They are the big ass ones. Last year I got 15-20 trees from them. Gave about half of them away. Planted the others around the farm. I think the dry fall got a lot of them. But a few made it, and I have a bunch more acorns that need planting.

I planted 2K longleaf pine tree seedlings the last couple of weeks. 1500 between the garden and graveyard at the house, and after we got our work schedules worked out so we could burn, I planted the other 500 in the skips of our 3 year old longleafs. The roots all had to be trimmed since I was planting with a dibble.

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holy shit !!!! 2000 seedlings. your poor dibble bar, lol... most i have ever planted at once was 200
 

Sour Wreck

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Nice looking dirt. I'm so sandy I do a lot of my tomatoes and peppers in pots or dig out a trench and put in a soil mix.
yup dirt here is rich and mine is a bit more moist than most due to my proximity to water. but it turns to clay a foot or two down :cry:.

will grow some good stuff though, sure wish i could grow cannabis outdoors :(
 

too larry

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I've had a hand in planting almost all the planted pines on the farm. Most with tractor and pull behind planter. Off the top of my head, I've planted 5 acres of sand pine and 15 acres of slash in my old hay field. 20 acres of slash in what we call the back field. The 20 acres behind the house, and 8 acres down at the river field in longleaf. Three times we planted leftover slash in 2 and 3 acre plots down at the river field. And three years ago we planted the rest of the hay field in longleaf, about 10-12 acres.

Sister and BIL paid to have their slash and longleaf trees planted 6 years ago. With the new trees I planted, we have no real big plots of land left without trees on it. I have a couple acres of garden and fruit trees, and 3 or 4 of front yard, but everything else is trees.
 

Sour Wreck

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I've had a hand in planting almost all the planted pines on the farm. Most with tractor and pull behind planter. Off the top of my head, I've planted 5 acres of sand pine and 15 acres of slash in my old hay field. 20 acres of slash in what we call the back field. The 20 acres behind the house, and 8 acres down at the river field in longleaf. Three times we planted leftover slash in 2 and 3 acre plots down at the river field. And three years ago we planted the rest of the hay field in longleaf, about 10-12 acres.

Sister and BIL paid to have their slash and longleaf trees planted 6 years ago. With the new trees I planted, we have no real big plots of land left without trees on it. I have a couple acres of garden and fruit trees, and 3 or 4 of front yard, but everything else is trees.
busy man ^^^^
 

Sour Wreck

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Looking good. The tall grass shows how rich the dirt is. Those trees should get big.
hope to have a deer stand in one before i am gone from this earth.

they are a very fast growing oak. produce acorns in 8-10 years. grow 50-60' high. have sweet acorns the deer love.
 

too larry

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busy man ^^^^
The days are so short, I was planting at night to get finished before the trees got too old. Look at the trekking pole in the picture and you will see one of my tent lights. I lined up 3-4 lights and planted until bedtime a couple of nights. Luckily it was cold as hell that whole week. Days in the 40's and nights in the 20's. The seedlings still looked fresh at 2 weeks old.
 

farmerfischer

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I collect acorns from a couple trees here at work every year. They are the big ass ones. Last year I got 15-20 trees from them. Gave about half of them away. Planted the others around the farm. I think the dry fall got a lot of them. But a few made it, and I have a bunch more acorns that need planting.

I planted 2K longleaf pine tree seedlings the last couple of weeks. 1500 between the garden and graveyard at the house, and after we got our work schedules worked out so we could burn, I planted the other 500 in the skips of our 3 year old longleafs. The roots all had to be trimmed since I was planting with a dibble.

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reminds me of when I use to work on a Christmas tree farm.. people have no clue how much work goes into them long before they get to a living room... so are you planting for habitat or for timber.. sorry if its been asked..
 

too larry

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reminds me of when I use to work on a Christmas tree farm.. people have no clue how much work goes into them long before they get to a living room... so are you planting for habitat or for timber.. sorry if its been asked..
A little of both. I'm 57, so might not see these make poles, but I will be selling pine straw off them in 10 years {7 more years for the burned ones, but Sister and I share ownership of those} The longleaf behind the house {and the 8-9 acres at the river field} were on a habitat restoration program for 15 years. We got something like $1050 each of those years. Plus cost sharing with the seedlings and the planting. But we couldn't sell the straw while it was on the program. Since 2015 we have been getting $100 an acre for the straw. That almost pays the land taxes on the whole farm. Here is last year's harvest. I'm expecting them any day now.

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farmerfischer

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A little of both. I'm 57, so might not see these make poles, but I will be selling pine straw off them in 10 years {7 more years for the burned ones, but Sister and I share ownership of those} The longleaf behind the house {and the 8-9 acres at the river field} were on a habitat restoration program for 15 years. We got something like $1050 each of those years. Plus cost sharing with the seedlings and the planting. But we couldn't sell the straw while it was on the program. Since 2015 we have been getting $100 an acre for the straw. That almost pays the land taxes on the whole farm. Here is last year's harvest. I'm expecting them any day now.

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that's bad ass.. what's the pine straw used for, mulching, composting? I wonder if there's a market here..lol..
 
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