I dont understand when you say feed them a full dose, then feed them a quarter? Im using 8" terra cotta pots right now since thats all they had at the time when i went to buy bigger ones. On another post someone told me to get them out of those pots n get better ones, but i cant right now unless i order online. Thank you for replying to my post to help me out. This is my first time doing this.
Droopy leaves? What to do
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I read that before and thats why i figured to mist them when the lights are off
MJCanada
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I say you got some overwatering issues, those pots could be a problem as clay holds moisture.
About the RH and temps... don't focus on getting the inside of your grow space in the ranges... it's a losing battle unless you are doing a sealed grow. Focus on getting the ambient RH and temp of the room your grow space is using as a lung(aka where your intake pulls from) into roughly the right range first (be within 10% RH and 5 degrees). Then you'll be able to dial in your grow space.
As folks have told me before, don't finger your pot, it isn't a vagina... lift it up, if it's light, water... if not wait... when in doubt... wait...
Good luck!
P.S. Roughly you want:
Veg ~ 70-80F 55-65RH
Flower ~70-80F(can go higher) 40-55RH
Honestly, being in a cold climate has turned out to be pretty darn good for me in controlling these things with regular heat in the house and a humidifier. I can see the -30's being a little more challenging because you need to drop the RH to ~30% or you are gonna rot your windows...
About the RH and temps... don't focus on getting the inside of your grow space in the ranges... it's a losing battle unless you are doing a sealed grow. Focus on getting the ambient RH and temp of the room your grow space is using as a lung(aka where your intake pulls from) into roughly the right range first (be within 10% RH and 5 degrees). Then you'll be able to dial in your grow space.
As folks have told me before, don't finger your pot, it isn't a vagina... lift it up, if it's light, water... if not wait... when in doubt... wait...
Good luck!
P.S. Roughly you want:
Veg ~ 70-80F 55-65RH
Flower ~70-80F(can go higher) 40-55RH
Honestly, being in a cold climate has turned out to be pretty darn good for me in controlling these things with regular heat in the house and a humidifier. I can see the -30's being a little more challenging because you need to drop the RH to ~30% or you are gonna rot your windows...
Thank you for the tips. Looks like im gonna have to order different pots and get them out of the ones i have. Im using a shelf to grow in the back room so it isnt a great space to do this in apparantly, but im trying to make the best of it. To keep the light out i was using thick towels, so i think i will need to find a better material to use. Maybe thick contractor bags or something? Hopefully i can get this straightened out asap. I know that ill definitely be ordering new pots like that lady said on my post earlier. Those cloth, smart pots she was talking about. Thank you for taking the time to write that message for me thiugh. I do appreciate the tips! Everyone has been so helpful! I know it seems like stupid mistakes to everyone who has done this many times, but this is truly my first time. These plants were clones my buddy gave me. With the help from people on here they got them to this point. I didnt know when he gave them to me that they were in the flowering stage already, and couldnt figure out what was wrong at first. I just dont wanna mess them up. Thank you again, and have a good night!
legalcanada
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haven't read the thread but it could be overwatering or low pH maybe. they could also just be tired if you're running 24 hr lights or something
They are on an18/6 light schedule. Im gonna get a small humidifier and different pots to start. And go from there
andy s
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well lets say that when they hit a week in veg they should be hearty enough to withstand low humidity. ive grow outside in az and s long as the plant gets watered it should be just fine. some days there were below 10%, silica is a growers best friend in harsher climates but in the later stages. even inside humidity was low and as long as the temp indoors was around 75 my low humidity wasnt a factor my plants were just a healthy as what i have them in now which is 65-52 percent humidity. they wont thrive as much but they will be fine. just a little less vigorous or thick so its better to have it than to not but you should be fine if you dont have a high humidity
andy s
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sorry meant shouldnt feed a full dose of ff nutes right away they should start off with a quarter strength nutes compared to what the bottle says to give them
legalcanada
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you could fashion a jimmy rigged humidity dome for them out of freezer bags or something if you're worried about humidity... you could also just put a couple bowls of water in there and spray the walls of your tent or something.. once they are in bigger pots and transpiring more your humidity will spike and you'll be getting a dehuey probably..
in early veg my humidity was pretty low but as soon as they transplanted from 4 or 6" pots or whatever in to their 5g the humidity jumped up immediately from 25% or so over 60%
i grow in coco so i water with 1 EC to germinate seeds and feed every watering after that. i've never given anything under 1EC at any point and never had burn.
in early veg my humidity was pretty low but as soon as they transplanted from 4 or 6" pots or whatever in to their 5g the humidity jumped up immediately from 25% or so over 60%
i grow in coco so i water with 1 EC to germinate seeds and feed every watering after that. i've never given anything under 1EC at any point and never had burn.
andy s
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id just get some cheap black pots for now invest more when you get your technique down everyone grows a little different
whitebb2727
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Anecdotal at best. Some handle it just fine. Others don't. Mine get silica. I'm running several strains struggling with it. Raised the rh and they snapped out of it.
Some strains can handle snow on them. Some will shrivel up and die below freezing.
There is a difference in outdoor and indoor even with the same temps and humidity. If planted in the ground a couple things happen. The in ground plants will grow roots deep and wide in search of water. The root zone on them is at a constant temp. The ground will keep the roots cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
Its hard to do that indoors in pots. They will be warmer than in the ground.
The goal indoors is optimum conditions. Sure some can handle low humidity. Why grow indoors if not dialing in the climate?
No disrespect meant. Just my thoughts on it.
whitebb2727
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I agree. If they need more you can always add more. If you over do it the damage is done.
andy s
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i grew in pots outside there and my pots got hot i had to shade them. then ended up digging a hole and kept the pot in the hole. but when its not always legal you dont always make the best conditions haha you wanna just get through with some quality and pick out the strong genetics haha none taken though man just feedback i can dig it
whitebb2727
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For sure. I've been guerilla growing for a while.
Take and cut the bottom s out of your pots and put them out and fill with soil over your dug holes. If you have to move them just break them loose and move them. It will shock them a bit. Saw that somewhere but don't remember.
andy s
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yup exactly, pluck and go haha usually if theyre strong plants that wont even phase them. alot of people have that problem with fabric pots outside theyll grow straight into the ground
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What i did was, since i only have 2 plants, i made a half gallon of nutrients, and used half the dosage. Maybe it was to strong for them?
What pots do you suggest me get then?
andy s
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fabric pots are alright they just dry out quicker. i use the cheap black pots. never had any issues with em, theyre cheap, and you dont have to water as much as an airpot. some people say airpots increase their yields though bc the pot in a way air prunes the roots. i have yet to use them just know people who have, some wont change back some have went back so its 50 50 lol your choice whatever you feel comfortable with. guess its better for a newer grower to invest in them bc if you overwater itll revive faster
Roger A. Shrubber
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just as an option, i've been using hempy buckets for a couple of years now, and like them a lot.
i used the cloth pots for a while, and you do get pretty good results out of them, but you really have to keep on top of watering them, and as was mentioned before, if you leave them sitting outside, in a few days they'll grow roots through the bottom and anchor themselves where they are.
i start in regular nursery pots, then go to 3 gallon hempy pots, then into ten gallon hempy totes, and like them the most of everything i've tried so far
i used the cloth pots for a while, and you do get pretty good results out of them, but you really have to keep on top of watering them, and as was mentioned before, if you leave them sitting outside, in a few days they'll grow roots through the bottom and anchor themselves where they are.
i start in regular nursery pots, then go to 3 gallon hempy pots, then into ten gallon hempy totes, and like them the most of everything i've tried so far
Well im not concerned about them anchoring themselves anywhere. Im not growing outside this time of year or anytime in the future for that matter. Im positive they wont anchor themselves to a wooden shelf. I have 30" of total height, so im very restricted in the way i have to go about things for now until we move into a better house. My area is 30" high x 28" long and 20" deep. The only pots available were the clay terra cotta pots so i had to use them. They do have a big hole on the bottom and are a lil airflow under the drip tray. I didnt know they were that bad to use, but dont have an option at the moment. I can order different ones but that will take time. I can make some holes in the pots if getting air to the roots is needed. As far as temp, not sure how to cool it down. Its constantly around 80-85 in there. I have a fan in there but space is verrrrry limited.