All Natural Organics. The Dons' Summaries + FAQ Thread. <2017-'18>

[DonTesla]

Thank you
Going to pick some Dunks tomorrow, going to love the look of the cashier when I buy them. We have snow on the ground at the moment.
I want to kill off all the fungus gnats before I order a worm bin. I was hoping for a Black Friday for a sale but maybe a cyber Monday sale.
Any thoughts on the Worm Factory 360?
Cheers
CCG

Youre welcome CCG

Re: the Worm tower:
I would say its over priced but a good design for starting out. If spending $100-140 Cad I would likely buy 10-15 strong totes at 100-110L each, so 1500 L capacity vs the 360's 30-50 L.. or I would buy some 2x4 and 1/4 inch hardware mesh.. Along with a sheet of thin plywood for the tops and bottoms if you don't have scrap pieces .. You could make enough worm farms that you could sell some and make a profit or donate them as gifts, or keep em all and make a tonne of castings.

These ones cost under $10 each as an example.




Note: I don't use cardboard or paper anymore as bedding.

 

[DonTesla]

seems a bit too expensive for me at the moment at that rate id rather pay for the subs or the coots compost for around a 100 atleats that would go further hopefully in the future when i can maintain a notill style i might but shit i know its quality n stuff but still it all seems over priced 50 dollers for 20 liters fuck that think im gunna put that mony for stuff for my castings and start there lol i hate not having mony

25L actually eh so yeah just 50L if dropping a bill eh?
What is overseas shipping on 4 or 5 cu ft from BAS, I see they weigh about 36 lbs a piece, which might hurt. But yeah you would get over 100L.

I would check for you but after just trying, their site crashed my apps, plus they don't ship to Canada, man do I love & hate that.

 

[DonTesla]

Topped only once, this clone was quickly trained with LST and a bit of super cropping,
Shown: one plant in a small 7 gal pot.
Just 3 weeks into flower.
100% RO Water only
100 watts only per plant


Exhibited:
The Dons Living Soil blend

 

[giglewigle]

25L actually eh so yeah just 50L if dropping a bill eh?
What is overseas shipping on 4 or 5 cu ft from BAS, I see they weigh about 36 lbs a piece, which might hurt. But yeah you would get over 100L.

I would check for you but after just trying, their site crashed my apps, plus they don't ship to Canada, man do I love & hate that.

lol im not sure imthinking with my 190 liter compost tumbler it would take 20 liters 9.5 times so im thinking of getting an airation mix then ading an equel part coco amd castings then adding some amendments in cups per cubic feet and letting it sit for a month or two im not sure what amendments i wanna use tho but im most likly going to be stiking as close as possable 2 youre 5 part mix im probly going to get a couple difrent rock dusts i think what ill be doing tho is getting the base soreted so thenhere and there as i can afford it get a few difrent amendments im glad i now know of another online store tho im gunna try n focus on my castings tho maybe adding a few spoon fulls here and there to the worm bin also i got dome sundlowers only one has bloomed im gunna ferment them or pull the whole things and feed em to the worms not happ tho they where ment to be rockmelons thinkil stick to buying seeds from now one

 

[DonTesla]

If having difficulty finding.. can help you get your meal mix and mineral mix .. Just as much as you need. Avail. by the cupful.

Premium Aeration mix, I would go to that site you found last month or so in AU they are pretty cool

 

[DonTesla]

 

[giglewigle]

i dont no how many gallons the pot is that my pink graveis in but shit i think iv got no choice but to flip going to have 2 reveg and take some clones but ye i have a feeling shes gunna yeid good she starting to suffer a bit of heat stress bit f cupping im gunna feed her some eco seaweed and some gogo jeuce or instead feed some em1 as the gogo has fish and seaweed in it i should be fine getting every thing im planing on getting all the difrent rock types thay sell there pretty good on price for amendments i rekon pluss thay always have new products plus thaere pretty good on freebies got some free sappinins but i think for meals im gunna pretty mutch get what i can and let it sit and break down for a few months

 

[giglewigle]

cheers on the offer man im gunna have a look at the site again and write down what im gunna get i for got to add my pink gravey is under a viper spectra 600 gunna flipmthe lights to 1212 but run em at night so its not as hot i also gotta change it so the ventilation stays on im worried shes gunna out grow the tent tho im gunna have to get some cable ties and have the light at the very top will probly help keep it cooler within the hour tho im gunna take a few pics of the ping gravy havent had to water it in a week witch is whyni think shes a little streesed shes a tough girl tho ill take thos pics soon as my table charges lol

 

[Canadain Closet Gardener]

[QUOTE="DonTesla, post: 13924054, member: 851820"
What is overseas shipping on 4 or 5 cu ft from BAS,[/QUOTE]
Here is my quote for 1 Cubic Foot from BAS and you can only order 1 foot at a time.
That's US dollars.


I've only found diatomite rock in one place in Canada so far
http://www.reindeersnatural.ca/mail_order.htm
almost $50 for 2Kg shipping included
Cheers
CCG

 

[giglewigle]

im gunna get there base and airation mix might get about 3 or 4 bags of it then im gunna get some palagonite some langbeinite some volcanic rock dust and some sosome oyster shell some shell grit some kelp meal alfalfa meal and some neem meal im thinking im gunna try and be veganic also some soft rock phosphate maybe malted barley grain or hemp seed meal im probly gunna end up getting every thing

 

[giglewigle]

i got some pics of the ping gravy im now 100 percent sure its gunna out gro the tent shit I DEFenetly cant forget the cable ties i fixex the ventilatio n so its on 24 7 now it s looking a bit heat stressed but theres gunna be a storm here so im gunna wait and see if i cant get some rainwater and do a tea like some em1 and some eco seaweed may a tad of some eco seaweed and buble it for a few hours i thing theres over 10 nodes now without further ado heres some pics will post pics in a week or two lol sorry for any mess

 

[andy s]

id say its gonna take over when you flower lmao looks like some nice genetics there

 

[andy s]

Topped only once, this clone was quickly trained with LST and a bit of super cropping,
Shown: one plant in a small 7 gal pot.
Just 3 weeks into flower.
100% RO Water only
100 watts only per plant
View attachment 4049089

Exhibited:
The Dons Living Soil blend

thats how i like to grow all mine right there ring of buds lol

 

[giglewigle]

id say its gonna take over when you flower lmao looks like some nice genetics there

sure is jah earth collective genetics i heard plants iearher double or tripp,e in size so ether way tho im gunna yeald a bit only things im woried about is it getting mold frommit touching tje walls and sides of the tent ansd it touching tje light but i sure ittl be all rigjt if i keep on top of shit and dont get lazy

 

[giglewigle]

hay don how mutch u rekon shell yield based on it has around ten nodes lol

 

[andy s]

sure is jah earth collective genetics i heard plants iearher double or tripp,e in size so ether way tho im gunna yeald a bit only things im woried about is it getting mold frommit touching tje walls and sides of the tent ansd it touching tje light but i sure ittl be all rigjt if i keep on top of shit and dont get lazy

ya i was just reading about its genetics lol gonna save some money up. i wanna try it out as well as a couple others. put a small fan on the floor of your space pointing up and you should be good itll circulate the area nice and help prevent that

 

[giglewigle]

hay don when uve got a spare second can u give me any feed back on the pg its about 10 nodes tall now my space is only 180 cm tall im think cuse its kind of bendy i might tie it down lol this is ginna be fun seing what it does in terms of flowering n stuff if its as easy to grow in flower as it was in veg jeebus crisht this is gunna be some dank shit if tjats what imcan do as a complete noob then a pros is gunna kill it i mean tjat in tje good way lol

 

[calliandra]

Hey Calli!

How was your Elaine Ingram composting course! Did you learn a lot?

As for DE Rocks, NICE, glad you are digging 'em! They are one of our top favs, both for a top dress as well as as in the mix.. they have a lot of benefits! They change color when moist, to an orangish tinge, and back to white when dry, so as the mediums topsoil becomes less moist, you can tell which ones are ready for a misting or top watering just by color.

Of course, they don't clump up like the powder will, and they also interrupt many life cycles of various pests..and thats just the start!

I still like to powder anything used though, but thats just me, have you used it powdered to see if you note any differences?

Ah, DonTesla, I'm still learning so much! - there are so many rabbit holes to run down I get quite lost in there sometimes haha

Indeed, I have only been using the powdered form, never having encountered the rock form before.
In fact, I just struggled through using a compost-heavy seedling mix I made to contain a good portion of DE. To give you an idea of the amount of DE, the composition was:

• 1.5L compost mix
• 1.0L coco coir
• 1.25L aeration (0.5L biochar, 0.5L pumice, 0.25L DE)

That - i.e. 15% - was definitely too much to add in powder form, especially with so much compost in there!
Actually, it was great for those tray thingies of connected ting pots - they hardly needed watering ever, and I made a few nice clones of my rosemary, sage and lavender.
But it co-created havoc in a larger pot I was starting a NorthernLights#5 x Haze in. The water holding capacity is enormous, and together with the compost it caused a weird state of waterlogging whilst maintaining a totally fluffy structure.
So based on this experience, I'd not recommend using powdered DE as part of the aerating component, but more like an amendment.
In my newest mix (reamending my old no till soil), I've accordingly only added 1,5 cups to 56L of substrate (so about at a 3/4 cups per cubic foot ratio if my math's right).

Now, in the form of diatomite rocks.. it's bound to be quite a different story!
Cheers!

 

[Canadain Closet Gardener]

Going to do watering with the Dunks for a couple of weeks then introduce the nematodes.

hopefully the gnats will be gone
Cheers
CCG

 

[DonTesla]

i got some pics of the ping gravy im now 100 percent sure its gunna out gro the tent shit I DEFenetly cant forget the cable ties i fixex the ventilatio n so its on 24 7 now it s looking a bit heat stressed but theres gunna be a storm here so im gunna wait and see if i cant get some rainwater and do a tea like some em1 and some eco seaweed may a tad of some eco seaweed and buble it for a few hours i thing theres over 10 nodes now without further ado heres some pics will post pics in a week or two lol sorry for any mess View attachment 4049115 View attachment 4049116

If you can keep that there light in the sweet spot, probably about 18" away, then you should be able to yield a gooey ounce or two. It should give you some pink trichs too but I would super crop it pronto, bud.