What if you found out your purpose in life was meaningless?

Padawanbater2

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There is no meaning to life, life just is. It exists, you exist, we exist just because. Because of the natural interactions between chemicals over time. Your life began just like it'll end, in the sea of oblivion. The chemical reactions that make up your body, mind, and consciousness will eventually cease and you won't exist, as you. What you're made of will still exist, but you won't. Wrap your head around that.

How does that make you feel, and why?
I agree with your premise. I don't agree with your conclusion. Those things do not indicate that life has no meaning, but rather that meaning dies with you like everything else. Meaning is just another part of your identity. In the same way that your preferences, your tastes for foods, your favorite songs, your pet peeves, are part of your identity. You've always known that those things will die when you die. If that hasn't ever bothered you, then it shouldn't bother you that meaning dies as well. Meaning is finite, but not non-existent.

Also like your preferences, some of the stuff that means something to you is going to mean something to other people as well. If your accomplishments and actions and the way you live your life means something to you, chances are that they are always going to mean something to someone.
So I described the biology of meaning; once you die, everything you ever were goes the way of the dodo. I think you described the meaning of our lives that we keep in regards to others after we die. Our lives, if we're lucky, have meaning for others, they will carry on our legacy after we're gone. But what do we actually mean to them? Sure, we made an impact, it might last their entire life, but what about after that? You addressed this already; our meaning is finite, but not nonexistent. I think I can agree with that. Our life means something to us and those closest to us. When we're gone, and those of us we love, so is our meaning, and purpose.

I suppose our ultimate purpose is to enrich the lives of those we come into contact with. It's tough and it takes a lot of work, especially in this world, but I think it's ultimately worth the effort.

Thanks for the contribution, bud, I appreciate it
 

New Age United

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So I described the biology of meaning; once you die, everything you ever were goes the way of the dodo. I think you described the meaning of our lives that we keep in regards to others after we die. Our lives, if we're lucky, have meaning for others, they will carry on our legacy after we're gone. But what do we actually mean to them? Sure, we made an impact, it might last their entire life, but what about after that? You addressed this already; our meaning is finite, but not nonexistent. I think I can agree with that. Our life means something to us and those closest to us. When we're gone, and those of us we love, so is our meaning, and purpose.

I suppose our ultimate purpose is to enrich the lives of those we come into contact with. It's tough and it takes a lot of work, especially in this world, but I think it's ultimately worth the effort.

Thanks for the contribution, bud, I appreciate it
I think we have to differentiate here between personal meaning, personal purpose, universal meaning and universal purpose. What was the meaning of Adolf Hitler 's life or Ghenglis Khan or Siddhartha Gautoma or Albert Einstein? I think meaning is more of a personal thing it very subjective, it is entirely a construct of the mind a can vary greatly from person to person. Purpose however is more concrete things have specific purposes a car is used for transportation a bridge is there so that vehicles can cross the water Etc. So what if Hitlers purpose was to bring the rapture upon the Jews as God said he would in TNT, what if Khans purpose was population control in Asia, what if Gautoma was here to spread enlightenment and Einstein to advance our understanding of physics? Are these purposes causal or acausal? Is there a conscious order in the universe or is everything randomly occurring? Is the future already set in stone or can we actually affect the outcome?
 

New Age United

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That's the problem with science being the new religion..

We need a new religion! Its called Human.

Everything, stair at dirt for all it matters "god" is everywhere/all. I can see meaning in experiencing anything. You can definitely assign meaning to anything you like and that will be true to your experience, not that you can't be deceived! Hell only exists in our minds and we create it, becausd were taught to not see meaning in everything from the second were born and language is used to trap our soul deep in our subconscious.
What if God's intention was not a means to an end, what if there is no goal for humanity to achieve? What if God's intention was to create a paradise where people and animals could live, and knowing full well that suffering would force them to see the light unleashed the devil into this world? Is it OK if there is no point? Is it OK just to be alive and to truly Love the entire world?

Like you said to Love, play, and do whatever we want to do with no seriousness about ourselves I think you touched on God's true intentions there.
 

Bombattak

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Thats the reason why we should live as we want. No jobs, growing weed, smoking weed, eat what i want, sleep when i want. We only here for 80yrs approx and on this 80yrs,0-4yo you not really conscient, 4-14 child life and 60-80 many health problems will arrive, maybe cancer if you lucky and only get in this range of age.

So we live a real 46 yrs and minus 8h a days where u sleep so approx 15years of sleeping. 46-15=31
So we can say cocaine, crack and speed users live longer than normal ppl as they sleep less lollll.

So after this who the fuck wanna work 40hrs a week??? Fuck off
 

ttystikk

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Thats the reason why we should live as we want. No jobs, growing weed, smoking weed, eat what i want, sleep when i want. We only here for 80yrs approx and on this 80yrs,0-4yo you not really conscient, 4-14 child life and 60-80 many health problems will arrive, maybe cancer if you lucky and only get in this range of age.

So we live a real 46 yrs and minus 8h a days where u sleep so approx 15years of sleeping. 46-15=31
So we can say cocaine, crack and speed users live longer than normal ppl as they sleep less lollll.

So after this who the fuck wanna work 40hrs a week??? Fuck off
We live a 'real' 46 years? Ridiculous!
 

ttystikk

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What if God's intention was not a means to an end, what if there is no goal for humanity to achieve? What if God's intention was to create a paradise where people and animals could live, and knowing full well that suffering would force them to see the light unleashed the devil into this world? Is it OK if there is no point? Is it OK just to be alive and to truly Love the entire world?

Like you said to Love, play, and do whatever we want to do with no seriousness about ourselves I think you touched on God's true intentions there.
What if there is no God at all?
 

ttystikk

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So I described the biology of meaning; once you die, everything you ever were goes the way of the dodo. I think you described the meaning of our lives that we keep in regards to others after we die. Our lives, if we're lucky, have meaning for others, they will carry on our legacy after we're gone. But what do we actually mean to them? Sure, we made an impact, it might last their entire life, but what about after that? You addressed this already; our meaning is finite, but not nonexistent. I think I can agree with that. Our life means something to us and those closest to us. When we're gone, and those of us we love, so is our meaning, and purpose.

I suppose our ultimate purpose is to enrich the lives of those we come into contact with. It's tough and it takes a lot of work, especially in this world, but I think it's ultimately worth the effort.

Thanks for the contribution, bud, I appreciate it
We can have a lasting impact. Imhotep is remembered. Thomas Edison, Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan and Martin Luther King, Jr are remembered. All for the lasting positive impact they made on other people's lives during their lifetime and long after.

The meaning of life is what each of us makes it. Sometimes that's a choice, often it's shaped by the circumstances we find ourselves in.

No one told me to do something that would leave a lasting positive impact on those who might come after me, that's a choice I made and that I'm trying to live up to. Keeps me out of trouble!

Otherwise, life gets... old.
 

MarWan

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There is no meaning to life, life just is. It exists, you exist, we exist just because. Because of the natural interactions between chemicals over time. Your life began just like it'll end, in the sea of oblivion. The chemical reactions that make up your body, mind, and consciousness will eventually cease and you won't exist, as you. What you're made of will still exist, but you won't. Wrap your head around that.

How does that make you feel, and why?
I think that question should be addressed to people who are dying. Most likely you would get an unbiased answer.
we came from darkness and will go into darkness too.
 

Moldy

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My avatar is a pix of earth from the Jupiter region. Realizing the size of the universe is impossible, so is understanding our mission/purpose on this rock. Just be happy and shut the fuck up. We really don't have that much time to be a prick.
 

New Age United

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We can have a lasting impact. Imhotep is remembered. Thomas Edison, Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan and Martin Luther King, Jr are remembered. All for the lasting positive impact they made on other people's lives during their lifetime and long after.

The meaning of life is what each of us makes it. Sometimes that's a choice, often it's shaped by the circumstances we find ourselves in.

No one told me to do something that would leave a lasting positive impact on those who might come after me, that's a choice I made and that I'm trying to live up to. Keeps me out of trouble!

Otherwise, life gets... old.
What about the people who had a lasting negative impact? Does evil and suffering not also serve a purpose? Isn't it possible that evil can lead good and vice versa?
 

3GT

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What if God's intention was not a means to an end, what if there is no goal for humanity to achieve? What if God's intention was to create a paradise where people and animals could live, and knowing full well that suffering would force them to see the light unleashed the devil into this world? Is it OK if there is no point? Is it OK just to be alive and to truly Love the entire world?

Like you said to Love, play, and do whatever we want to do with no seriousness about ourselves I think you touched on God's true intentions there.
Wait did I say there was a goal to achieve haha? You're as always thinking the same as I'm trying to convey..

I think it's all ok always, though as you say the devil causes suffering here and it's exploited to control us.

Edit: of course its always OK.. In infinity/god/all or in meaninglessness haha.. Either way
 

New Age United

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Wait did I say there was a goal to achieve haha? You're as always thinking the same as I'm trying to convey..

I think it's all ok always, though as you say the devil causes suffering here and it's exploited to control us.

Edit: of course its always OK.. In infinity/god/all or in meaninglessness haha.. Either way
That is just what I think of when someone says "the meaning of life" as if there is a specific goal for humans to achieve while they are here on earth, and that is what I mean by nihilism not that we can't apply personal meaning to our lives.
 

ttystikk

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I think that question should be addressed to people who are dying. Most likely you would get an unbiased answer.
we came from darkness and will go into darkness too.
The very moment they learn the answer (if they ever do) is the moment they become permanently unable to share it with the rest of us.

The good news is that we will all get the same chance to learn, sooner or later.
 

ttystikk

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My avatar is a pix of earth from the Jupiter region. Realizing the size of the universe is impossible, so is understanding our mission/purpose on this rock. Just be happy and shut the fuck up. We really don't have that much time to be a prick.
So make the most of it, fucker! LOL

Just kidding, bro!
 
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