Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

BobCajun

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this reminds me of one of the reasons i like to grow in whats called SIP's,, like the earthbox for instance, or the earthtrainer,, in sip growing we cover the top of the soil with plastic ,, like a shower cap idea,, some like the earthbox come with a fitted plastic cover,, others just use garbage bags,, ,, but in so doing we create a barrier between the soil and the plant,
i have not seen a bug since i started doing this,, knats and other soil bound bugs if they exiist stay trapped in the dirt,,
its worked well so far
Not a bad idea, would also conserve water and possibly warm the medium up some by "solar heating" effect. Might be hard to water though, unless there's hoses under it. Personally I stick with perlite, reusing it over and over. After the first few uses it gets a fair amount of dead root material in it, the small bits after pulling out the clumps. That acts as a moisture retainer, much like peat or coco, but you don't need to buy it, it's free. I let the containers sit for 3 weeks between uses, enclosed in garbage bags to kill off any fungus gnats that may hatch in there. The roots break down somewhat in that 3 weeks time.

So you can actually have an organic medium without using soil or peat/coco, because perlite is a natural stone and cannabis roots are of course also natural. If too much root material builds up in the perlite you can always dump it into a container of water and wash it off, the perlite floating to the top. Once you get a good amount of roots in there it holds enough water for a few days, whereas pure perlite would dry out quickly and also not hold the plants up as sturdy. Kind of like growing plants in styrofoam pellets, way too light.
 

chuckie86

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Not the same bro. Check out my sig.

I can't really get it locally and didn't wanna order it and wait this time, so I went with azomite instead.
You can order it from Amazon tho.

Try-> http://www.amazon.com/Gaia-Green-Glacial-Rock-Dust/dp/B006K4HSZK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1358447220&sr=8-4&keywords=rock+dust
I can vouch for it.
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This time I'm using -> http://www.amazon.com/10-Lbs-Azomite-Additive-Fertilizer/dp/B0081GP2LW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358447220&sr=8-2&keywords=rock+dust
instead
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Thanks for this this is what may help me.out a good bit need something to help with all the deficiencys I always have and this will work I think thanks
 

Bestcoast666

New Member
Sincerly420, I used your mix I hope everything works well let me know if u have any new tips I know this post is old lol thanks man !
 

tripleD

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Sincerly420, I used your mix I hope everything works well let me know if u have any new tips I know this post is old lol thanks man !
Where did you buy everything? I don't have local access and I wonder if buying "black gold earth worm castings" fertilizer and some of the other amendments from Amazon would be ok?
 

Bestcoast666

New Member
Where did you buy everything? I don't have local access and I wonder if buying "black gold earth worm castings" fertilizer and some of the other amendments from Amazon would be ok?
I got a lot of stuff from shopping around from nursery to nursery! That's where I got FFOF and EWC as for black gold EWC I would get it I know they make a good soil. Amazon and home depo are good to get organic amandments, check out monster grow store, in your google search bar they have the best stuff for soil that's all organic, even a list of what to mix. It's called subcools super soil. Or something close to that ! Good luck man cheers
 

Bestcoast666

New Member
But don't get me wrong man I'm a noob lol I just research a lot I'm starting on my 4th cycle ever. Lol but every one it's dank with good yields
 

tripleD

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But don't get me wrong man I'm a noob lol I just research a lot I'm starting on my 4th cycle ever. Lol but every one it's dank with good yields
Thanks for the info! I started growing 2 years ago, but I only grow 3-4 plants once a year in October when the temps aren't so hot.... so every October I have to re-learn every damn thing that I forgot, which is just about everything lol. I grow Auto's and I mix FFOF with FFHF and I've been using Tiger Bloom and other Nutes, but I'm going to try supplementing with organic teas this time instead and see how it goes. I was getting 3oz-4oz per plant with the nutes but I wanna see how natural teas will do. My 3 plants are 15 days old now so hopefully my teas will be ready in time.
 

Bestcoast666

New Member
Thanks for the info! I started growing 2 years ago, but I only grow 3-4 plants once a year in October when the temps aren't so hot.... so every October I have to re-learn every damn thing that I forgot, which is just about everything lol. I grow Auto's and I mix FFOF with FFHF and I've been using Tiger Bloom and other Nutes, but I'm going to try supplementing with organic teas this time instead and see how it goes. I was getting 3oz-4oz per plant with the nutes but I wanna see how natural teas will do. My 3 plants are 15 days old now so hopefully my teas will be ready in time.
FFOF and FFHF is an amazing 1:1 mix, super easy and packs a punch! If you want to grow truly organic tho u need to cut the nutes and only use organic soil amendments and/or organic teas. Chem nutes are detrimental to your organic grow, and makes it not organic any more. What kind of lights and space are you using also to only get 3/4 oz of autos?
 

Bestcoast666

New Member
Thanks for the info! I started growing 2 years ago, but I only grow 3-4 plants once a year in October when the temps aren't so hot.... so every October I have to re-learn every damn thing that I forgot, which is just about everything lol. I grow Auto's and I mix FFOF with FFHF and I've been using Tiger Bloom and other Nutes, but I'm going to try supplementing with organic teas this time instead and see how it goes. I was getting 3oz-4oz per plant with the nutes but I wanna see how natural teas will do. My 3 plants are 15 days old now so hopefully my teas will be ready in time.
And how long are the autos? That's not bad yields at all don't get me wrong, it's deff possible to get bigger yields on the bright side :)
 

tripleD

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FFOF and FFHF is an amazing 1:1 mix, super easy and packs a punch! If you want to grow truly organic tho u need to cut the nutes and only use organic soil amendments and/or organic teas. Chem nutes are detrimental to your organic grow, and makes it not organic any more. What kind of lights and space are you using also to only get 3/4 oz of autos?
My setup:
4x4 Gorilla tent
Spydr600LED light
5gal smart pots
FFOF/FFHF soil
Carbon Filter exhaust
1fan
Temps 70-80
RO water 1gal every other day
Will start feeding Gen Organics products next week phd to 6.5
 

DonTesla

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Is there an updated version to this somewhere? Brand new grower and poster here! Thanks!
Save yourself the frustration my friend, and avoid FoxFarms all together..
If you want help building a truly high quality living soil, ask me or RastaRoy for some free help, anytime!
 

DonTesla

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On the top right, there is a tab called Inbox, and if you hover over it, a drop down menu shows up saying Show All (or) Start a New Convo.

If you click start a new convo, you can add a person to talk to by typing their name!
 

firstnamelast

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On the top right, there is a tab called Inbox, and if you hover over it, a drop down menu shows up saying Show All (or) Start a New Convo.

If you click start a new convo, you can add a person to talk to by typing their name!
Awesome very helpful!! On my way to the Don's thread
 

mukai

Member
FFOF is good out the bag (as is) for smallish gardens (2 to 3) 5 gallon smartpots. As somebody else said, it gets nutrient thin towards the end. So adding your choice of amendments not only makes it go further per run, but you save money by reusing and amending your mixture; just be sure to amend only with organics. That way you can do a modified no till. FFOF is a bit spendy. But it's a consistent base on which you can experiment.
 

shannonball

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I use happy frog and ocean forest, I mix each with 25% perlite. I use the happy frog in party cups for seedlings, clones and then they get transplanted into ocean forest around 2-3 weeks. I give no nutes until I'm actually in flower.
we use 50/50 FFOF n Happy Frog and add in some for aeration and drainage. works great and doesn't breakdown like perlite does.



1.5 cu. ft. - Growstone GS-2
 
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