Clone only strains

higher self

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I knew that & have even ran the s1's from cali con they were horrible. This Master Thai guy is saying the genetics are different, not lemony & doesnt go 70 days. He might as well call it something else but says he is the original grower of Tahoe. haha everyone has a story to tell all I can do is pop the seeds as I dont have access to clones.

http://www.masterthai.com/genetics-page-1.html
 

Odin*

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Iam confused. Sativas by definition eliminates higher leaf count? Huh? And now there is a difference between an "og" and an "og kush"??? So confused here.

I was specifically referring to "real" old school OG's. They are sativa dom, 5 leaves and fewer, by "definition" (not really defined, but these are the characteristics).

Yes, OG, and OG Kush are not the same. The nomenclature has gotten muddled over the years. The "Kush" was tacked on to OG crosses to associate the buds more with the popular (higher priced) OG, rather than the "Kush" it was bred/accidentally crossed to in order to increase yield/vigor. We all held a powwow a few months back regarding this (in this very thread). To bad we weren't able to pass the "peace pipe", or better, my Ottoman Warlord pipe.

Hell, the clubs all have "OG's" under "Indica", it's all discombobulated.
 

Bad Karma

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I knew that & have even ran the s1's from cali con they were horrible. This Master Thai guy is saying the genetics are different, not lemony & doesnt go 70 days. He might as well call it something else but says he is the original grower of Tahoe. haha everyone has a story to tell all I can do is pop the seeds as I dont have access to clones.

http://www.masterthai.com/genetics-page-1.html
According to his website, he's responsible for creating the original Bubblegum, as well as Tahoe OG.
Which would mean he was living/working in Indiana, and Tahoe, simultaneously. Sorry, I don't buy it, his stories don't add up.
 

Al Yamoni

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I knew that & have even ran the s1's from cali con they were horrible. This Master Thai guy is saying the genetics are different, not lemony & doesnt go 70 days. He might as well call it something else but says he is the original grower of Tahoe. haha everyone has a story to tell all I can do is pop the seeds as I dont have access to clones.

http://www.masterthai.com/genetics-page-1.html
Interesting website, Whole lotta claims going down by these guys....
 

since1991

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I said it before and ill say it again. If a cut is hot and making the rounds within the growers and its taking off then your best chances of acquiring the legit clone is VERY EARLY. Before the hacks get ahold of it....the renamers..
And yes the scammers. Ive seen it a million times. Even not too rare stuff like Glue and Dream...just a little time for people to fuk it up and your chances of getting the real deal slim down substantially. Just for an example ... I won't even try to get my hands on real deal Skunk VA Chemdog. Or real deal Tahoe. Or many many others that are probably excellent. So much time has passed for breeders, scammers, renamers, hoarders and just retards to mess with it that the chances of getting said clone only is slim to none. Knockoffs...variations...and fakes can be good in thier own right and sometimes even better (ususally not though) but whats the point?
 
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since1991

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I mean we have dna testing labs that can pin point what ya got but these are still in its infancy and expensive. There is not a set defined system or network either for verification analysis. Sucks but our word of mouth model and internet forums is all we got...still.
 

since1991

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Ok last post on this. That dna tracking "star galaxy" map those one guys put out for og kush is completely confusing to me. Yall know what iam talking about. Cant think of the site. Iam stoned.
 

Craigson

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Any connections for Elite cuts in Ontario, Canada?

Found Billy Budd but it got mixed reviews and not many reviews that I can find.

PM me if necessary. Willing to travel. licensed personal grower.

Thx
 

CannaBruh

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I want to see a "star galaxy" plot of the same cut ran in 10 different environments with 10 different growers.

How does the "fingerprint" testing correlate room to room with the same variety.
 

since1991

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I want to see a "star galaxy" plot of the same cut ran in 10 different environments with 10 different growers.

How does the "fingerprint" testing correlate room to room with the same variety.
It doesn't correlate...at all. But just the galaxy 3d map in general is hard to navigate for me on this stupid phone.Why cant they just do it simple like a family tree type dealy?
 

since1991

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I want to see a "star galaxy" plot of the same cut ran in 10 different environments with 10 different growers.

How does the "fingerprint" testing correlate room to room with the same variety.
Ive got friends that been growing pure or actually close to pure sativas here in Michigan for a few years now outdoors. Early maturing ones that are ready early November. Anyways...because Michigan climate and growing season is completely different than the land of origin...after about 5 seasons these mostly sativas look NOTHING like the original. They mature earlier now. They take on a more bushy short and wider leafed appearance. Its a trip really. Cannabis is such an adaptable plant. I would assume taking clone only cuts and running them indoors in a particular grow room environment and a particular grower with different methods would get similar results. Indoor Growers and rooms and practices arw truly exclusive. Even the slightest variations would add up over time.
 

since1991

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I got a good question. It would obviously take alot longer than outdoor seeing how indoor grower control the entire environment but do yall think a popular clone only...lets say..Gorilla Glue#4...if one kept it in thier setup and ran it for a really long time would end up radically different than how it was ran early on in Josie Wales setup?
 
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