Thanks To 'Fight For $15' Minimum Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks

twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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racerboy71 said:
how come big macs in countries that have a much higher minimum wage aren't much higher, if not cheaper, than they are here in the us, where we have a much lower minimum wage?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/sep/26/facebook-posts/do-other-countries-have-higher-minimum-wage-united/

denmark, who has a minimum wage almost 3x's that minimum wage workers in the us get paid, yet, the price of a big mac in that country is $4.44, compared to the price of a big mac in the us, $5.04..

so, to answer your question about keeping the big mac price where you might like them to be at, i'd suggest maybe moving to denmark, where you can get a minimum wage job paying 3x's that of an american minimum wage worker, and still save $.60 per burger..
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Maybe because they're more McCapitalist in Denmark than we are here in the US. Their corporate tax rate is almost half ours at 22% which would allow them to pass this off to the customers and the workers when they bargain for their minimum wage.

I like this new EU comparison. Denmark has no min wage and the EU has no mandated min wage either. You're talking about a state of the EU, Denmark. So you're argument is that the US should abolish min wage laws and let states compete, set their own corporate rates and wages. I'm all for it. We have a right to travel unlike the EU so this experiment would work well.

With the min wage gone in the US I can pay my employees in silver. One constitutional dollar per hour. Then they can file taxes on $2000 per year and save even more capital.

I love your idea.
 
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Indagrow

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UncleBuck said:
calling people who you perceived as lazy "nigs" and "niggers" wasn't a dead giveaway?

i've given up on the republic. i'm just gonna watch it burn now.

this is fine.
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I'm from one of the if not the most racist areas, there was no mallous behind those actions.. Simply words. Words heavily abused around here apparently. Again I've refrained from it because if it offends a white Jew halfway around the country it may offend people here also. Garunteed it's never offended anyone of color coming from my mouth. I know you don't understand that but it just doesn't carry as much weight as it does to you in a 50/50 White Hispanic area.

Just because you knocked on a bunch of doors and your pony didn't win the race don't give up man, shows your true character.. Keep fighting the good fight

I do appreciate what you've done for me
 
Justin-case

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Indagrow said:
I'm from one of the if not the most racist areas, there was no mallous behind those actions.. Simply words. Words heavily abused around here apparently. Again I've refrained from it because if it offends a white Jew halfway around the country it may offend people here also. Garunteed it's never offended anyone of color coming from my mouth. I know you don't understand that but it just doesn't carry as much weight as it does to you in a 50/50 White Hispanic area.

Just because you knocked on a bunch of doors and your pony didn't win the race don't give up man, shows your true character.. Keep fighting the good fight

I do appreciate what you've done for me
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Poor , uneducated white trash^^^^^^^
 
phaquetoo

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Moly said:
the jews wondered the desert for 40 years after leaving Egypt because the generations that had lived through slavery had to die off before they could be allowed into the promised land. We are those slaves. we are a lost cause.. just listen to us talk to one another.. there is so much hate.. even on the weed forum?.. we need to be scraped and the world needs to start over with a fresh batch of pure babies. they can grew up not knowing of all the mental conditions we all suffer from.. like racism, sexism, and all the other inflictions that keep our human race from achieving what we could and should.
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The jews wondered the dessert untill all that questioned god were dead, it had nothing to do with slavery!

They sinned and even moses doubted that god would feed them and make sure they had water. the wondered till all were dead that doubted,,,,at least that is what the book says, but than again man wrote it so how correct can it be?

I think doubling the minimum wage is not a good idea, it should be raised according to the coa, nobody on disability is getting a cola raise, not even if they raise the minimum wage and get 2 x's the taxes!

I believe in science, but I did enjoy reading the bible, I also liked reading helter skelter!

Peace
 
SneekyNinja

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twostrokenut said:
Maybe because they're more McCapitalist in Denmark than we are here in the US. Their corporate tax rate is almost half ours at 22% which would allow them to pass this off to the customers and the workers when they bargain for their minimum wage.

I like this new EU comparison. Denmark has no min wage and the EU has no mandated min wage either. You're talking about a state of the EU, Denmark. So you're argument is that the US should abolish min wage laws and let states compete, set their own corporate rates and wages. I'm all for it. We have a right to travel unlike the EU so this experiment would work well.

With the min wage gone in the US I can pay my employees in silver. One constitutional dollar per hour. Then they can file taxes on $2000 per year and save even more capital.

I love your idea.
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The 5 European countries (counting Iceland and Switzerland as European despite no EU membership) without mimimum wages don't have them because they're heavily unionised and they negotiate everything on behalf of employees.

As a result, their "effective minimum wage" is way higher than ours.
 
Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
Maybe because they're more McCapitalist in Denmark than we are here in the US. Their corporate tax rate is almost half ours at 22% which would allow them to pass this off to the customers and the workers when they bargain for their minimum wage.

I like this new EU comparison. Denmark has no min wage and the EU has no mandated min wage either. You're talking about a state of the EU, Denmark. So you're argument is that the US should abolish min wage laws and let states compete, set their own corporate rates and wages. I'm all for it. We have a right to travel unlike the EU so this experiment would work well.

With the min wage gone in the US I can pay my employees in silver. One constitutional dollar per hour. Then they can file taxes on $2000 per year and save even more capital.

I love your idea.
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Denmark has a minimum wage that was negotiated between trade unions and industries. There is no state-mandated minimum wage, which is why you are confused on this subject.
 
Fogdog

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phaquetoo said:
The jews wondered the dessert untill all that questioned god were dead, it had nothing to do with slavery!

They sinned and even moses doubted that god would feed them and make sure they had water. the wondered till all were dead that doubted,,,,at least that is what the book says, but than again man wrote it so how correct can it be?

I think doubling the minimum wage is not a good idea, it should be raised according to the coa, nobody on disability is getting a cola raise, not even if they raise the minimum wage and get 2 x's the taxes!

I believe in science, but I did enjoy reading the bible, I also liked reading helter skelter!

Peace
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I wonder and doubt too.

I wonder how anybody can claim to be both Christian and Republican. I wonder why, after 12 years of education people don't know how to write and spell. I wonder why anybody believes as historical fact, a book of old made up stories that were clearly written by several people centuries after the events actually happened if they did at all. I wonder why people believe in the Moses fable when archaeology shows that there was nothing of the sort. I doubt anybody who spews this nonsense.
 
st0wandgrow

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Fogdog said:
What are the "centrist, establishment" policies of these candidates that you object to? What candidates do you support and how are their policies different?

The election of Trump was a reaction to the status quo. While I think Trump was not honest about his attack on the status quo and is now filling his cabinet with people who are most clearly establishment types, I think the mid west and rust belt voters were more voting against continuing with Obama's economy and social agendas rather than voting for Trump. I'm interested in learning more about the people and policies that can move our society forward and especially interested in progressive policies that would be popular with working classes across the country including the mid-west and rust belt.

I think the south is dead to any progressive or centrist policy agenda and so, again, not interested in making deals with people who want to build that fucking wall, use torture for unknown reasons on terrorists and especially promote an isolationist and segregated society.
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I don't believe that this election was any kind of denunciation of Obama or his policies. His approval rating suggests otherwise anyway. This was a repudiation of Hillary Clinton. Period. If Obama could have run for a third term he would have beaten Trump handily.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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st0wandgrow said:
I don't believe that this election was any kind of denunciation of Obama or his policies. His approval rating suggests otherwise anyway. This was a repudiation of Hillary Clinton. Period. If Obama could have run for a third term he would have beaten Trump handily.
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Obama couldn't run so that's pretty hypothetical. If he were running you can be sure the Republican party would have been barraging him from day one of his second term to drag down the approval rating.

Are you also of the opinion that Bernie would have beaten Trump? Just asking. No real agenda in the question. I'm not sure if Bernie could have pulled it off. He didn't have as deep an organization as Clinton and he wasn't polling well in non-white groups in the party. Black and Hispanic voters had gone strongly to Clinton during the primaries.

Do you think the major issues that turned the rust belt were immigration or TPP and trade policies or something else?
 
zeddd

zeddd

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The bankers must have needed an idiot-emperor i.e. Trump, to be president, otherwise they would not have put forward decrepit Clinton as dead duck opposition. To elect a nazi these days requires the oppositional acquiescence of a dishonourable opponent, lol at morons knocking on doors this cycle
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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SneekyNinja said:
The 5 European countries (counting Iceland and Switzerland as European despite no EU membership) without mimimum wages don't have them because they're heavily unionised and they negotiate everything on behalf of employees.

As a result, their "effective minimum wage" is way higher than ours.
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Again, comparing those states to our union is apples to oranges. You would not compare Idaho to the EU directly would you.

Great. Ditch the min wage here then and let the people of the states decide if they want to bargain or right to work.

But talking about our minimum compared to others bargaining and calling it minimum is dishonest conversation.

Especially considering the "effective min" is actually a minimum average.
 
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