Airy Buds under 1,000w HPS

[Cyrus420]

They're in WEEK 7. Two more weeks to go at most.

So, going around again - should I keep trying or just throw 'em out?

Are you basing their finishing time off of what the breeder site says? You can't trust those you always need to add anywhere from 2-6 weeks to their time. I grew some landrace sativa out of a bagseed last grow and at fourteen weeks it was no where near done, some of these plants take awhile and it's also up to the genetics.

If you can't learn patience growing will never be your thing, lol. You can do it though buddy, after a few grows sometimes I even forget I got a plant growing in my closet til the light comes on byitself.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Are you basing their finishing time off of what the breeder site says? You can't trust those you always need to add anywhere from 2-6 weeks to their time. I grew some landrace sativa out of a bagseed last grow and at fourteen weeks it was no where near done, some of these plants take awhile and it's also up to the genetics.

If you can't learn patience growing will never be your thing, lol. You can do it though buddy, after a few grows sometimes I even forget I got a plant growing in my closet til the light comes on byitself.

He didn't even mention a strain? I'm guessing bagseed, or that he didm't get the name of the clone.

 

[Cyrus420]

He didn't even mention a strain? I'm guessing bagseed, or that he didm't get the name of the clone.

It looks like some bagseed to me.

 

[Budley Doright]

He did say third grow of clones and the first two did fine BTW. So that narrows it down a bit, if that is true then I would say light leaks slowed it up a bit. If that was two weeks and he's on week five then it's got appr 4 weeks to go which seems just about right .

 

[rzza]

Almost looks like its trying to reveg. Possible light leaks or poor timer.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

He did say third grow of clones and the first two did fine BTW. So that narrows it down a bit, if that is true then I would say light leaks slowed it up a bit. If that was two weeks and he's on week five then it's got appr 4 weeks to go which seems just about right .

Doesn't necessarily mean he grew the first two, though, right? Just a thought.

If it's light leaks, though, genetics are shit for sure. However, he still didn't tell us the strain. And those leaves are awfully Sativa. I say longer, but that's my vote.

 

[zeddd]

Shit

 

[Budley Doright]

Doesn't necessarily mean he grew the first two, though, right? Just a thought.

If it's light leaks, though, genetics are shit for sure. However, he still didn't tell us the strain. And those leaves are awfully Sativa. I say longer, but that's my vote.

Just going by what op said, that's all we've got lol.

 

[Budley Doright]

Doesn't necessarily mean he grew the first two, though, right? Just a thought.

If it's light leaks, though, genetics are shit for sure. However, he still didn't tell us the strain. And those leaves are awfully Sativa. I say longer, but that's my vote.

Why if it's light leaks are the genetics shit?

 

[weedemart]

plants looks fine imo, not perfect but they are healthy. Need atleast 3-4 week to go tho. genetic looks like a sativa dominant hybrid, probly ~10 weeks flowering time.

 

[whitebb2727]

Of course sativa looking doesn't mean longer flowering times. C99 looks really sativa and is a fast finisher. I still say the op is going to take longer than 2 weeks.

 

[Budley Doright]

^^^^so would I and perhaps the addition of a flowering additive might help. I've never used the AF nutrients for Coco but the regular stuff calls for A then A & B when switching but also a few more real pricey additives I think, I stopped using AF's due to the huge price of it here, roots excelorater is like $300 here.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Why if it's light leaks are the genetics shit?

Because light leaks don't cause issues unless it's directly radiating upon the plant (causing reveg), or alternatively if the genetics are unstable. Just ran two plants with no problem, massivevlight leak over a curtain rod. Before that, I had a light leak under the curtain that acted as a closet door.

 

[Budley Doright]

Because light leaks don't cause issues unless it's directly radiating upon the plant (causing reveg), or alternatively if the genetics are unstable. Just ran two plants with no problem, massivevlight leak over a curtain rod. Before that, I had a light leak under the curtain that acted as a closet door.

I've had light leaks that were very minor but have prolonged the flowering period and no it wasn't poor genetics, strain related possibly but far fetched to call it shitty genetics. My last run was sped up by a couple of weeks after covering a door that let in defused lighting. Blanket statements for every grow is impossible due to the multitude of variables that occur.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I've had light leaks that were very minor but have prolonged the flowering period and no it wasn't poor genetics, strain related possibly but far fetched to call it shitty genetics. My last run was sped up by a couple of weeks after covering a door that let in defused lighting. Blanket statements for every grow is impossible due to the multitude of variables that occur.

I didn't make a blanket statement. Herms are a genetic issue, for instance. OP says he believes he received a clone too far removed from the mother (3rd gen clone), and suspects genetics as well. The only way light caused the airy buds is through possible revegging. I would think his airy bud issue might be either heat problems or temp fluctuations between on/off cycles or something before light leaks. Or it's Sativa dominant and it's just too early. But his genetics are probably shoddy, as well, after cloning a clone 3 times.

 

[tyke1973]

No problem at all ,get some serious pk spike bang on them.Hit them with canna pk 13/14 or a simlar thing that your nutrient company do,if it's a sativa it may run 16 week,I have had a haze that once run 14 week fucking pain in the ass,the end result was ok,but i tell ya something never again,un-less its out doors,think about it that one plant is taking has long has a different strain would flower twice over.

(DO NOT THROW IT OUT) Some advice is madness,carry on flowering like you are now get it on about 1.7 ec,keep it on that till the flush,get the pk 13/14 ,like i said but feed it through the medium,even if you are using a hydroponic set up,it will just start popping,and once it does just continue till its done,and a lesson learnt do not run long flowering strains,i have known nevilles haze run 15 week,before.

 

[tyke1973]

I'm growing in Coco. Using H&G Cocos A+B.

Plants were doing FANTASTIC in veg, after switching to H&G Cocos.

Using the same nutes in flower, they're just not doing well.

I'm growing under 1,000w HPS, new bulb, AC w/good temps.

Possible causes:

Insufficient light - No.
Heat - Don't think so; buds aren't getting foxtails.
Genetics - Possible. 3rd generation clones from feminized seeds, but last grow was perfectly fine.
Nutrients - Was watering with EC 2.0; told to flush and lower to 1.2.

I also had a small amount of light leak for the first two weeks, which I fixed. There hasn't been that much progress since.


So, are these buds a complete waste, or is there a way to fatten them up enough to actually harvest them?

Appreciate the help!

I once did a grow that i posted on here,its on here some where it was called johnson genetics grand daddy platinum purp berry cookies,that strain never got dense,it was fluffy,all the way through to 10 week even though all the pistols had gone red and the thc was colored.Another strain that does that from waht i have seen is jack the ripper from tga ,i would love any one that has done jtr and it has got dense and has photo's please post em to me,i want ti get that in my garden in a cross but only if it gets dense im not a lover of the fluffy ass bud,the gdppbcookies was one of the best smokes ever by the way lovely but weightless.

But looking at the pictures you put on,i see no problems with what you have done growing wise it looks healthy,i think you have just hit a really long flowering sativa or a sativa haze cross,it will most likely be really nice smoke,i bought some from a grower in canary islands that took 16 week flowering it was a super smoke,a little trippy though like having a acid tab,

 

[Budley Doright]

I didn't make a blanket statement. Herms are a genetic issue, for instance. OP says he believes he received a clone too far removed from the mother (3rd gen clone), and suspects genetics as well. The only way light caused the airy buds is through possible revegging. I would think his airy bud issue might be either heat problems or temp fluctuations between on/off cycles or something before light leaks. Or it's Sativa dominant and it's just too early. But his genetics are probably shoddy, as well, after cloning a clone 3 times.

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I don't think his buds are airy just a bit early. And can you please explain how his genetics have changed due to 3rd generation cloning?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I don't think his buds are airy just a bit early. And can you please explain how his genetics have changed due to 3rd generation cloning?

Weakening due to cell division over time coupled with the strain of having to rebuild itself 3 times. If you take a clone to the third power, it's going to be weaker down the line. It'd be like taking a 20 year-old man and cloning him, then cloning his clone when he reaches 30, then cloning that clone at "mother's" age of 40. The cells are still as old as the mother plant.

I agree, I think it's just a mid-flower sativa no where near done. I was saying what it could potentially be otherwise. Kind of like a diagnosis of exclusion.

 

[Budley Doright]

Weakening due to cell division over time coupled with the strain of having to rebuild itself 3 times. If you take a clone to the third power, it's going to be weaker down the line. It'd be like taking a 20 year-old man and cloning him, then cloning his clone when he reaches 30, then cloning that clone at "mother's" age of 40. The cells are still as old as the mother plant.

I agree, I think it's just a mid-flower sativa no where near done. I was saying what it could potentially be otherwise. Kind of like a diagnosis of exclusion.

I have cloned from clone from clone many times without any issues. Have you actually tried any cloning? If you actually search through out here you'll find many that clone from clone over many generations without an issue. A third generation clone is nothing. Actually if you look at my Oh Zone thread they are fourth generation clones . Actually kept a really nice blueberry strain going for years doing clone from clone. The clone from clone degradation thing is mostly from people that have never actually tried it I think .