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SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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whitebb2727 said:
To be honest the brown spots came after I watered with Epsom. I also watered back to back and showing signs of over watering.

I screwed the pooch and didn't follow my own advice. I should have left them be.

I'm going to get some today. I've got pine needles and what not in my rain catch.

Even with the problem, whatever it is, they are trucking right along.

Actually, can't be the rain catch. I water my garden with it and its fine.

Got to be the peat. How would I correct that without digging them up? I'm the one telling everyone you don't need a pH meter with soil, especially with organics.
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Bummer about the mag and peat dude, could just be a different quality of peat.
anytime i change something in the medium that i haven't used before i cringe and pray nothing goes wrong untill i get dialed in. Your nursery takes the soiless/per/verm approach or organic with said peat?
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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I would assume it has to much mg, the only reason I say that is because it appears to be locking out calcium.

Thats just a guess though.



It could be that your soils to acidic or if you were feeding veg nutrients that can also lock it up( but your not). It could be to much calcium but that would also come with other deficiencies. ..
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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mr sunshine said:
I would assume it has to much mg, the only reason I say that is because it appears to be locking out calcium.

Thats just a guess though.



It could be that your soils to acidic or if you were feeding veg nutrients that can also lock it up( but your not). It could be to much calcium but that would also come with other deficiencies. ..
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Its water only organic. It basically the same as last run with beautiful plants. The only difference is the addition of the peat mix.

Soil tested 6.2 and rain water at 7.0.

I hooked my second t5 up to see where the temps were. I think the brown spots are from burns.

SPLFreak808 said:
Bummer about the mag and peat dude, could just be a different quality of peat.
anytime i change something in the medium that i haven't used before i cringe and pray nothing goes wrong untill i get dialed in. Your nursery takes the soiless/per/verm approach or organic with said peat?
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I just don't get it. Everything should be fine. It has to be the peat. I'll just let it ride I guess. I'll keep in mind.

The peat is inert. The nursery uses it to start seeds for the garden and flowers and hanging pots. I figured it wouldn't be a problem. I'm regretting making a change.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Peat isn't coco, so it's going to absorb different minerals. Yet the nursery isn't having a problem and your water isn't affecting other plants adversely, so I'd look towards your nutes. Since you're doing organics, that's not always easy.

Did you test your runoff? What's the EC? If it's high you may have lockout issues. If not, my best guess is that your pH is too high for veg or for the new substrate.

Look up symptoms of excessive sodium or chloride and see if those may provide some insight. It's a long shot because it isn't causing problems for the nursery...

Speaking of, why not simply ask them what they use for plant nutrition in their peat and how they use it? What pH and EC do they recommend? They sold it to you, right?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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ttystikk said:
Peat isn't coco, so it's going to absorb different minerals. Yet the nursery isn't having a problem and your water isn't affecting other plants adversely, so I'd look towards your nutes. Since you're doing organics, that's not always easy.

Did you test your runoff? What's the EC? If it's high you may have lockout issues. If not, my best guess is that your pH is too high for veg or for the new substrate.

Look up symptoms of excessive sodium or chloride and see if those may provide some insight. It's a long shot because it isn't causing problems for the nursery...

Speaking of, why not simply ask them what they use for plant nutrition in their peat and how they use it? What pH and EC do they recommend? They sold it to you, right?
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I tested the soil at 6.2. I don't know the ec. Hardness and all the other blocks showed normal on the test. I don't test runoff. It will make you chase your tail. The way to test soil pH is to mix equal parts soil to deionized water and test.


I'm using it growing flowers with dynagro at half strength. I grow cannabis organic.

I will go by there tomorrow and ask them.

I think they will be OK. It is a series of small mistakes.

I'm not upset at all really. I need some of these problems to pop up for a project I'm working on.
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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yo im cooking a ss mix and i put too much water today that shit is smelling really bad now like straight shit., what can i do to fix it? Perlite? Its 2 weeks old and it needs to go at least 1-2 more weeks., do u guys think that the fungi is still alive? Or if it still good it smells really bad thought's?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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tropicalcannabispatient said:
yo im cooking a ss mix and i put too much water today that shit is smelling really bad now like straight shit., what can i do to fix it? Perlite? Its 2 weeks old and it needs to go at least 1-2 more weeks., do u guys think that the fungi is still alive? Or if it still good it smells really bad thought's?
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Do you have drainage holes? If so, I'm not sure. Set it out to dry some in the sun and turn a few times?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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abe supercro said:
yea up its gonna kill of some of the good mycos but they'll repopulate once you get the mix aerobic again. add whatever you have- perlite/vermiculite/more soil mix and break it up into a few containers to get more oxygen. maybe you had too much poop in there to begin with.
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I was going to suggest cutting with more soil but I've never dealt with anaerobic conditions.

I would also suggest drainage holes. If leaking is a problem tropical, jus put holes in the container then put it in another to catch moisture.

I generally don't get my cooking soil too wet. I get it moist, turn and then add more moisture if needed.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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IMG_20160801_142836099_HDR.jpg IMG_20160801_143256332_HDR.jpg IMG_20160801_143243802.jpg It was spreading and they were getting worse. I trimmed them heavy, took them from their pots, root pruned, remixed the soil and replanted.

I think I forgot lime. I found a bag of stuff that is compost with some gypsum for buffering pH. I also added a little lime I forgot.

I think it is the peat. My flowers pots I'm using dynagro in. The cannabis plants are organic nutrients. I think that had an affect on the peat.

So here are a few pics. I'll post some more later. Just showing people that this plant can handle a lot.
Where my hand is the root ball from the first transplant. That's where I trimmed the roots to.
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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whitebb2727 said:
I was going to suggest cutting with more soil but I've never dealt with anaerobic conditions.

I would also suggest drainage holes. If leaking is a problem tropical, jus put holes in the container then put it in another to catch moisture.

I generally don't get my cooking soil too wet. I get it moist, turn and then add more moisture if needed.
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thanks to all i think i fixed with perlite and more soil., and what i gonna do is when its redy to plant i will add more mycos. thanks. To all., that was ma first guess add perlite and organic soil. But i wasn't sure since this is gonna be ma first ss grow. thanks again!!!
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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tropicalcannabispatient said:
thanks to all i think i fixed with perlite and more soil., and what i gonna do is when its redy to plant i will add more mycos. thanks. To all., that was ma first guess add perlite and organic soil. But i wasn't sure since this is gonna be ma first ss grow. thanks again!!!
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so hopefully now no more problems hopefully!! they will recover nicely u are a good dad. Lol
 
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