Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[kmog33]

Living soil! Looks great!

I always consider it a good sign when I get shrooms in my compost.

It's actually growing at the base of my plants lol.

 

[m4s73r]

Hey guys, So i got 4 20 gallon no tills going. 5 weeks in and theyre going yellow So I threw on a couple inches of worm castings around each plant and watered it in 3 days ago and I'm not seeing any improvement. Am I just being impatient? each pot also has clover growing in for a living mulch and any dead thats been on the plant ive pulled off and ground up and threw on top. Just been doing water only. I did flood the pots a few times while i was getting my watering system set up.

 

[calliandra]

Hey guys, So i got 4 20 gallon no tills going. 5 weeks in and theyre going yellow So I threw on a couple inches of worm castings around each plant and watered it in 3 days ago and I'm not seeing any improvement. Am I just being impatient? each pot also has clover growing in for a living mulch and any dead thats been on the plant ive pulled off and ground up and threw on top. Just been doing water only. I did flood the pots a few times while i was getting my watering system set up.

Oh wow what a beautiful garden elsewise!

Looking forward to what others say - I currently have a grow going that way too, looking like theyre finishing way before their time (but mine started doing that a week or so into flower, like 3 weeks after flip).
In my case I thought it was because I have an uncured amended soil in pots that are way too small AND I've kept "forgetting" them in the course of their lives ... but it can't be a lack of soil in your case!

 

[DonBrennon]

I like the look of the set up, and sorry if I'm being ignorant here, but have you used it successfully before?

It's hard to tell where the thermometer is mounted, but if it's getting to 81F away from the light, then those leaves near the light could be getting fried in as high as 100F temps, daily? Are those HID's 1000w?

what I'm basically saying is, could it be environmental, heat stress or bleaching?

 

[m4s73r]

In smaller form, did the same thing with a single 600 for a long time. There is a pretty large fan keeping the inside cool. And hey those are 1000w hids. Thyre not close enough for bleaching. plants are 21 inches from the bulb. I may need a bigger room.

 

[DonBrennon]

In smaller form, did the same thing with a single 600 for a long time. There is a pretty large fan keeping the inside cool. And hey those are 1000w hids. Thyre not close enough for bleaching. plants are 21 inches from the bulb. I may need a bigger room.

Mmmmnnnn.................21" is rather close for a naked 1000w HID, Just looked at your thermometer again and I'd definitely try to do something about the environment before I started adding any more nutes. 64%-81% humidity and the high temps are probably what's causing the problems.

 

[Mohican]

Are you using CO2?

 

[m4s73r]

Not using co2. Vented room. May have to cut one light out for now till i get the room more dialed in. Humidity is hard to control in the midwest. Its humid here during the summer. The center fan can blow at over 4k cfm. So i can get lots of airflow, just dont wnt to add wind burn to the list of issues.

 

[BillyBlanks420]

This is one of my current mixes I'm using. I still have some other mixes going as well with more ingredients but I truly believe that this is a great start for everyone that is very reasonably priced. I used to amend commerical soils until I got enlighten.

Soil Base - Per Cubic Foot

33% Priemier Peat (brand name) I buy this for 9.99 at lowes 3cfu
33% Pumice/Perlite/Lava rock (I'm using perlite cause I have much on hand)
33% Combination of Compost and vermicompost.

Note: Always use quality amendments and compost in your soil. Just like anything, you get what you put into it, or just like quality good food, fresh ingredients makes for a better end product. If you don't make your own compost or casting try to source some local. If you need a commercial product there are brands like Bu's Compost and a few other quality ones.

Plants are top-dressed with 2" of vermicompost

Amendment Mix

1/2 cup Organic Neem or Karanja Meal
1/2 cup Organic Kelp Meal

Rock Dust Mix

4 cups Basalt & Glacial Rock Dust Mix

Lime Mix

1/2 cup Gypsum
1/2 cup Crab Meal

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I was wondering if those measurements for the amendment mix is per gallon? i know its an old post but it seems like a good mix to start with

 

[Crab Pot]

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I was wondering if those measurements for the amendment mix is per gallon? i know its an old post but it seems like a good mix to start with

Measurements are per cubic foot (7.5 gallons)

 

[Crab Pot]

It's a very good mix but it's missing oyster shell flower @ 1 cup/ cu ft.

 

[hyroot]

I never get mushrooms sprouting from my soil. And I have worms in my pots. And plenty of mycelium. It may be my environment though.

 

[kmog33]

It's a very good mix but it's missing oyster shell flower @ 1 cup/ cu ft.

 

[bizfactory]

Does anyone like to put a thin layer of pumice / lava rock / aeration on the bottom of their no-till or rols pots? I am remixing my soil with pumice instead of rice hulls and I figure now would be a good time. I got the 3/16" pumice from general pumice products. Kinda $$ but whatever.

 

[BillyBlanks420]

It's a very good mix but it's missing oyster shell flower @ 1 cup/ cu ft.

Measurements are per cubic foot (7.5 gallons)

Thanks for the reply bud i am trying my very first no till soil with 1 part Happyfrog Soil Conditioner 1 part premuim compost and 1 part 1/2" Red landscaping stones cuz im low on funds n have to make 1200 gallons lol so glad its not by the gallon it gets way more expensive

 

[BillyBlanks420]

These are my babies there gunna go into 100 gallon pots n make daddy realll happy

 

[BillyBlanks420]

Actually just did the math and its the same 5 gallons of each 1/2 cup amendment and 40 gallons of rock dust... My local shop only has azomite will that be as good as basalt/ glacier dust?

 

[Crab Pot]

Thanks for the reply bud i am trying my very first no till soil with 1 part Happyfrog Soil Conditioner 1 part premuim compost and 1 part 1/2" Red landscaping stones cuz im low on funds n have to make 1200 gallons lol so glad its not by the gallon it gets way more expensive

I like the sound of premium compost. Wouldn't peat be cheaper than Happy Frog? And, are you adding amendments and minerals to the mix?

 

[BillyBlanks420]

The happy frog soil conditioner has ewc and humid acid n a few other goodies for 740 a pallet of 35 but it's missing the rest of the super soil ingredients

 

[calliandra]

Does anyone like to put a thin layer of pumice / lava rock / aeration on the bottom of their no-till or rols pots? I am remixing my soil with pumice instead of rice hulls and I figure now would be a good time. I got the 3/16" pumice from general pumice products. Kinda $$ but whatever.

Yep I've been doing that in general, especially in large pots, for years.
So it was something I didn't even think about when I set up my first no-till pot, it got an inch of lava rock as the bottommost layer. Mind you I've only used it on one run to now (and that was a crazy one, not due to the lava rock hehe), so there may be implications for no-till I am not yet aware of