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Mad Hamish

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I feel the same about that strain. Is sells like fire in the dispensaries out here still for $2900 per on a fiver. It was always funny to me because what I got from it and the way that the smell of dumpster was explained to me was,

"It's like you threw every stinky weed your know into the same bucket., kind of like a dumpster of bud"

I could never place what it smelled or tasted like, nor did I ever get why some people like it so much. Don't get me wrong, very pretty chemy nugs, just not my style I guess. Didn't really blow my mind.


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Holy fukin balls is this the price of weed over there?! I am so moving to your hood and running to the reds. Gods. I will risk much for that kind of price paid wowowowow... i am blown away... USA here I come nofukingkidding see if any kind of sentence will scare me away after reading that...
 

kmog33

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Holy fukin balls is this the price of weed over there?! I am so moving to your hood and running to the reds. Gods. I will risk much for that kind of price paid wowowowow... i am blown away... USA here I come nofukingkidding see if any kind of sentence will scare me away after reading that...
That's actually pretty high for a dispensary to pay a vendor three days. Prices are like:
$1200-1800 outdoor/greenhouse/wearhouse per lb

$2200-3800 for ins depending on bag appeal, potency, quantity and smell.

The particular strain I was speaking of goes for around what I said around here.


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Mad Hamish

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That's actually pretty high for a dispensary to pay a vendor three days. Prices are like:
$1200-1800 outdoor/greenhouse/wearhouse per lb

$2200-3800 for ins depending on bag appeal, potency, quantity and smell.

The particular strain I was speaking of goes for around what I said around here.


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Holy shit that is still like 4 times the best I can hope for on bulk...
 

Queece

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Yeah that's absolutely crazy that vendors buy 3k+ pounds still. I worked it out, the entire cost of my runs (2.5lbs per month, perpetually) is $38. Start to finish. I use 20 CXB3070s in a 4*8 with Jack's 3-2-1 and pure recycled coco (occasional humic/fulvic, some early silicate, molasses and mycos) and zero pest control. Why is anyone charging more than $2500 for a pound? That's pure greed, it does not cost that much to grow and if it does, you are a shitty gardener. Dickheads charging that much for a dried flower bud is just fucking over the community. The people that set those prices aren't the marginal producers, I'll tell you that much.

I think things are going to change dramatically with weed in a very long-term future. With rosin on the scene and vaporizing in general being more sociologically accepted every day, I can see a future where people have little arbor-press setups with PID controllers and just hot swap over to an e nail. That's what I do, I have some really weird gut problems and am massively underweight and actually use cannabis medically for that reason. I'll go through an ounce+ of flower personally a week, do you know what that would cost to someone in my predicament that doesn't grow? My medicine looks better than 99% of what I see on leafly or in magazines, I've never waxed people like that and I've never been broke (and I sleep with my doors unlocked). You don't need that much money if you know what you're doing. Love is a very serious thing, my friends.

 

Siino Gardens

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Yeah that's absolutely crazy that vendors buy 3k+ pounds still. I worked it out, the entire cost of my runs (2.5lbs per month, perpetually) is $38. Start to finish. I use 20 CXB3070s in a 4*8 with Jack's 3-2-1 and pure recycled coco (occasional humic/fulvic, some early silicate, molasses and mycos) and zero pest control. Why is anyone charging more than $2500 for a pound? That's pure greed, it does not cost that much to grow and if it does, you are a shitty gardener. Dickheads charging that much for a dried flower bud is just fucking over the community. The people that set those prices aren't the marginal producers, I'll tell you that much.

I think things are going to change dramatically with weed in a very long-term future. With rosin on the scene and vaporizing in general being more sociologically accepted every day, I can see a future where people have little arbor-press setups with PID controllers and just hot swap over to an e nail. That's what I do, I have some really weird gut problems and am massively underweight and actually use cannabis medically for that reason. I'll go through an ounce+ of flower personally a week, do you know what that would cost to someone in my predicament that doesn't grow? My medicine looks better than 99% of what I see on leafly or in magazines, I've never waxed people like that and I've never been broke (and I sleep with my doors unlocked). You don't need that much money if you know what you're doing. Love is a very serious thing, my friends.

You have a lot of good points but you should add in electricity and opportunity/time cost. Unless you are growing some straight leafless green you should get paid for your time trimming it. Just saying I don't think I should trim anything for free lol. Not my idea of fun....
 

cap master

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Yeah that's absolutely crazy that vendors buy 3k+ pounds still. I worked it out, the entire cost of my runs (2.5lbs per month, perpetually) is $38. Start to finish. I use 20 CXB3070s in a 4*8 with Jack's 3-2-1 and pure recycled coco (occasional humic/fulvic, some early silicate, molasses and mycos) and zero pest control. Why is anyone charging more than $2500 for a pound? That's pure greed, it does not cost that much to grow and if it does, you are a shitty gardener. Dickheads charging that much for a dried flower bud is just fucking over the community. The people that set those prices aren't the marginal producers, I'll tell you that much.

I think things are going to change dramatically with weed in a very long-term future. With rosin on the scene and vaporizing in general being more sociologically accepted every day, I can see a future where people have little arbor-press setups with PID controllers and just hot swap over to an e nail. That's what I do, I have some really weird gut problems and am massively underweight and actually use cannabis medically for that reason. I'll go through an ounce+ of flower personally a week, do you know what that would cost to someone in my predicament that doesn't grow? My medicine looks better than 99% of what I see on leafly or in magazines, I've never waxed people like that and I've never been broke (and I sleep with my doors unlocked). You don't need that much money if you know what you're doing. Love is a very serious thing, my friends.

at least someone has a sense of some old shool good shit I love this song
 

Queece

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You have a lot of good points but you should add in electricity and opportunity/time cost. Unless you are growing some straight leafless green you should get paid for your time trimming it. Just saying I don't think I should trim anything for free lol. Not my idea of fun....
Dude grow stuff that's easy to trim and amazing, you know how long it takes to cut off one leaf? That is with electricity!!!!! 1000w tent, no a/c, 6in vortex outtake with passive intake, and a couple 8in fans moving air around. That's it. Seriously though, how long do you think this takes to trim? 4-5 seconds/ounce?
 

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Siino Gardens

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Dude grow stuff that's easy to trim and amazing, you know how long it takes to cut off one leaf? That is with electricity!!!!! 1000w tent, no a/c, 6in vortex outtake with passive intake, and a couple 8in fans moving air around. That's it. Seriously though, how long do you think this takes to trim? 4-5 seconds/ounce?
nice so you have that lb trimmed up and ready for the shelf in under 3 minutes. I like your style :weed:
 

Queece

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And I like spending time with my plants, it isn't work to me, so I guess I choose not to monetize it like others do. I've worked for minimum wage all my life, I don't need to make 10k a month to live comfortably, I don't live in San Francisco, why would the San Francisco weed prices be the universal weed price? It's just foolish, I'll flip a fully for 1750.

Here's what that really buys you:
-no one will ever fuck me over
-everyone is highly-satisfied with that price
-I can insist on being paid in BTC and no one will give me shit at that price (more bitcoin users, the more valuable my bitcoin, knock-on)
-I have scary people that will have my back whenever I need them because I subscribe to investing money into the people that are making your money for you. It really pays to not fuck me over, which you shouldn't want to anyway, I'm bringing prices down.
-people respect me, it pays to be respected, trust me.
-I feel good about what I do, that matters.
-people love my medicine, and I love that they love it, so I keep learning to grow better and more efficiently, lowering my costs further.
-people trust me and my council for matters that far exceed cannabis related matters because I have an honest reputation and a clear conscience.

It's like paying union dues (which I am very familiar with). For what, like two hours of work a month, you get a lawyer on retainer, health insurance, bargaining rights, and contractual raises with seniority. That's your money working harder for you than what you could potentially do yourself, and money well spent in my mind. I try to operate like that, only the union dues are a bottomless slush-fund of really good karma and relationships.
 

Queece

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Then, ho ho, here's another knock-on. I make people pay me in btc, so they usually buy more bitcoins than I require because they might have to do it a few days in advance and prices could fluctuate. Then they have extra btc left over, they usually only transact with btc when they're dealing with me. Not only is my money anonymous and secure, and my transaction digital and safe, but my customer now has residual money in a coinbase account that they have nothing to do with, other than reload and pay me again. I can then dead-drop with utter confidence, and everyone's safe, happy, well-paid, and I don't have to deal with some sketchy bank asking questions and talking to the IRS (the reason why I dropped out of the regular workforce, they kept auditing my minimum wage part-time returns, claiming that I owe them 40 grand somehow, I've put an injunction in but they kept taking my whole return every year and I was essentially working for 2 months a year as a slave).

So here's how you get repeat customers: 1750 if you pay in btc, 2500 if they pay in cash, because you'll have to drive to fucking Ann Arbor to use a bitcoin atm with a 5000 limit on cash deposits a day and a 5% fee. No one wants to waste 750, it takes five minutes to sign up with coinbase, I've never had anyone pay in cash thankfully hahaha.
 

mr sunshine

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And I like spending time with my plants, it isn't work to me, so I guess I choose not to monetize it like others do. I've worked for minimum wage all my life, I don't need to make 10k a month to live comfortably, I don't live in San Francisco, why would the San Francisco weed prices be the universal weed price? It's just foolish, I'll flip a fully for 1750.

Here's what that really buys you:
-no one will ever fuck me over
-everyone is highly-satisfied with that price
-I can insist on being paid in BTC and no one will give me shit at that price (more bitcoin users, the more valuable my bitcoin, knock-on)
-I have scary people that will have my back whenever I need them because I subscribe to investing money into the people that are making your money for you. It really pays to not fuck me over, which you shouldn't want to anyway, I'm bringing prices down.
-people respect me, it pays to be respected, trust me.
-I feel good about what I do, that matters.
-people love my medicine, and I love that they love it, so I keep learning to grow better and more efficiently, lowering my costs further.
-people trust me and my council for matters that far exceed cannabis related matters because I have an honest reputation and a clear conscience.

It's like paying union dues (which I am very familiar with). For what, like two hours of work a month, you get a lawyer on retainer, health insurance, bargaining rights, and contractual raises with seniority. That's your money working harder for you than what you could potentially do yourself, and money well spent in my mind. I try to operate like that, only the union dues are a bottomless slush-fund of really good karma and relationships.
That's gangsta.
 

Queece

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Sorry, I get long-winded. I just really haven't seen many people coming at the problem of high-prices with an logical argument against raking in gobs of money every month. You can't buy my kind of wealth, and I feel like btc are so underutilized by the growing community as a means to transact without blatantly unconstitutional laws impeaching on people's personal economic sovereignty.
 

UncleBuck

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Sorry, I get long-winded. I just really haven't seen many people coming at the problem of high-prices with an logical argument against raking in gobs of money every month. You can't buy my kind of wealth, and I feel like btc are so underutilized by the growing community as a means to transact without blatantly unconstitutional laws impeaching on people's personal economic sovereignty.
tell us more about how israel is paying secret undercover jews to make posts about hillary.
 

Queece

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You seriously don't think she's doing that? Did you see what Ted Cruz just got busted for? That stuff really exists Buck, I've given you a myriad of sources proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that paid shills are on the internet, managing personas, you're just ignoring the facts. offtop. I'll pm you a bunch of primary sources if you really want me to, but a useful idiot cannot digest real information even when presented with such. You'll need a military boot smashing your teeth out before you realize you aren't very smart, as you've made apparent.
 

a senile fungus

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Dude grow stuff that's easy to trim and amazing, you know how long it takes to cut off one leaf? That is with electricity!!!!! 1000w tent, no a/c, 6in vortex outtake with passive intake, and a couple 8in fans moving air around. That's it. Seriously though, how long do you think this takes to trim? 4-5 seconds/ounce?
Yeah that's absolutely crazy that vendors buy 3k+ pounds still. I worked it out, the entire cost of my runs (2.5lbs per month, perpetually) is $38. Start to finish. I use 20 CXB3070s in a 4*8 with Jack's 3-2-1 and pure recycled coco (occasional humic/fulvic, some early silicate, molasses and mycos) and zero pest control. Why is anyone charging more than $2500 for a pound? That's pure greed, it does not cost that much to grow and if it does, you are a shitty gardener. Dickheads charging that much for a dried flower bud is just fucking over the community. The people that set those prices aren't the marginal producers, I'll tell you that much.

I think things are going to change dramatically with weed in a very long-term future. With rosin on the scene and vaporizing in general being more sociologically accepted every day, I can see a future where people have little arbor-press setups with PID controllers and just hot swap over to an e nail. That's what I do, I have some really weird gut problems and am massively underweight and actually use cannabis medically for that reason. I'll go through an ounce+ of flower personally a week, do you know what that would cost to someone in my predicament that doesn't grow? My medicine looks better than 99% of what I see on leafly or in magazines, I've never waxed people like that and I've never been broke (and I sleep with my doors unlocked). You don't need that much money if you know what you're doing. Love is a very serious thing, my friends.


How are you pulling 2.5# per month perpetually out of 1000w and a 4x8 tent?

You're pulling 5# harvests out of that tent with 1kw?

Please explain, I'd sure like to know!

Thx!
 

st0wandgrow

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Dude grow stuff that's easy to trim and amazing, you know how long it takes to cut off one leaf? That is with electricity!!!!! 1000w tent, no a/c, 6in vortex outtake with passive intake, and a couple 8in fans moving air around. That's it. Seriously though, how long do you think this takes to trim? 4-5 seconds/ounce?

You can trim an ounce in 4-5 seconds?? Is your name Edward Scissor Hands??
 
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