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Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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For some reason I couldn't see the pic of your babies Osc, they don't look that bad but I'd be surprised by 6 a plant if you flip in 10 days mate, then again you do use a fair whack more light than I do.

Been a right ballsed up day today, cream crackered the work PC and had to come home to work, normally a good thing but not when you've gone to work first lol nowts gone right.

Plus side not much leakage from the cloner maybe 30-40ml in a day, bad news found an adult fly in the mother cupboard. I need a new approach methinks.
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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jigfresh said:
Brilliant. Thanks mate. I am going to check into these things. :)
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I'm not sure those bugs are built for the wildlife you have Jig! I wonder if they have a Spanish version. Like tiny microscopic bugs with sombrero's on smoking rollies. :eyesmoke: badass roaches man.

I've been looking at venus fly traps lol you can feed them up to full size with rehydrated blood worms in a season.
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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The flies you have don't seem to do any damage from what I've seen.
Slice a spud into inch thick slices and put them on top of the pots and check them three hours later. The larvae love potatoes and go on them. Then you'll be able to judge how bad the situation is. It's not a cure it's just a way to determine if there's a problem and how bad it is. When I had fungus gnats I did it and when I turned the slice over it looked like a pint of miniature maggots. But I left them unchecked for well over a month and they wrecked that crop because I didn't know what they were and ignored the flies. They're not really an issue if you treat for them with gnat off and sticky traps as prevention
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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yeah I've been on top of them, there were quite a few at first then I got on them then let them get the upper hand again and rinse repeat....

I've just done the spuds for tea so I'll whip a few bits of peel on to the coco. I've got the yellow sticky trap things up they've got the few I missed after going bonkers one afternoon and exterminated them by hand. Really helped break the cycle but still they returned. I've even got a shoe stocking thing off the missus over the 6" intake. so I know they're breeding in my cupboard. fuckers.

Aye a bottle of gnat off would be the way but it seems it's been pulled. works too well probably.
 
DST

DST

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Why not try the nematodes Don. I have ordered some for my next grow. It says they eat larvae too......
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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You know me and chemicals D, I opted to pay much the same price for some disks of 'Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis' AKA mosquito dunks. I'm going to let them dry out after this water and then remove the top inch or so of coco and re top them with fresh.

Sadly in my heart of hearts, I know the best thing to do will be use the new cuts as mothers and bin the big girls I have, I may shed a tear.
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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Don't do that don. There's no damage. They may not even be fungus gnats. We've not had any really cold weather to kill off all the normal outside bugs. I had a wasp in my kitchen last week.
Did the spud yield any larvae. If not don't worry about it.
I'm going to the shop this weekend to get all my prevention stuff and I'll grab you a box of nematodes
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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We'll see lad I've ordered em now but I can always try one before the other, interest of science an all that. I haven;t checked the spud yet just sprayed a load of fertilome and tried to kill the two adults I saw.

I know you saying no damage but it's the thought of transferring plants to the loft with a known problem, if they get a foothold in the loft I'm fucked going forwards.
 
DST

DST

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Nematodes are not chemicals Don. That 11.95packet does a 1000litres of water. Sounds like a winner winner chicken dinner to me.

Oscar, I assume you use the predator mites straight away, i.e not store them for long? I don't have mites just want to give them a go as we get into warmer weather as the fukker always appear in my greenhouse at some point.
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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Nah lad I was saying I ordered the chems. I prefer em generally.

See how it pans out eh. I've a couple of weeks to get them sorted afore the floors down up the loft.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Don't kill the wasps! They eat aphids. That is why I don't use chems. I want the predators to have fresh meat.
 
DST

DST

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Nothing natural will overcome aphids in my experience. If they take hold of something you are screwed without using some sort of spray or prevention. A single aphid reproduces thousands 9f offspring who are already born with thousands of offspring inside them....ants protect them from predators. They are a' sexual until later in the season when they mate and then they can fly...
 
Mohican

Mohican

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At the start of spring I have aphids on everything. Within two weeks the wasps and ladybugs (fairladies) have eaten them all. Nature rocks!
 
DST

DST

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If they are there every year, Mo then something in your garden has aphids. Otherwise if they were wiped out at the start of the season then they would not be there the following season as they go through a cycle..the last being the larvae that is laid. Aphids don't fly into your garden. The merge from the larvae. I pretty much had no aphids last year either but there was still some....
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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DST said:
Nematodes are not chemicals Don. That 11.95packet does a 1000litres of water. Sounds like a winner winner chicken dinner to me.

Oscar, I assume you use the predator mites straight away, i.e not store them for long? I don't have mites just want to give them a go as we get into warmer weather as the fukker always appear in my greenhouse at some point.
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I use them straight away. I think putting them in the fridge keeps them from being active but I don't know for how long. They have a sell by date and if it's near that the shop gives two for the price of one.
The nematodes I mix with water and tip on my root mass. This time I'll split them into eight equal portions and pour into the pots. You can't put them in water for more than a minute because they'll drown.

Don fungus gnats aren't really a bad problem. The only reason I had a mare with them is because I ignored them not knowing what they were. The following grow I had quite a few flies about but no issues with the plants.
 
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