Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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DonBrennon said:
I'm no expert, but I'd imagine it largely depends how much you put in and how quickly it gets consumed? Size of plant, environment etc.........
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Very true, in hindsight I see how vague of a question that is.. I guess the question would be better asked as a multitude of different ones and to someone with some nursery experience and or a degree in soil science lol. Any takers? I've just now over the last couple months started really diving into soil science myself (how pH is actually determined blew my gord a bit at first, I thought it was simple hehe).
 
DonBrennon

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Midwest Weedist said:
Very true, in hindsight I see how vague of a question that is.. I guess the question would be better asked as a multitude of different ones and to someone with some nursery experience and or a degree in soil science lol. Any takers? I've just now over the last couple months started really diving into soil science myself (how pH is actually determined blew my gord a bit at first, I thought it was simple hehe).
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When you start reading into it you realize nothing is simple in soil science and I suppose it's just not had the same funding/interest as other sciences(except for profitable/chemical biased purposes). When you try to research this type of stuff, you find obscure one off papers that you either can't fully access or don't quite answer your questions. Nature has her way of doing things which we'll prob never understand, I'm learning it's better for us to KISS and let her do the work, lol.
 
Midwest Weedist

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Because I feel it should be a staple in everyones garden; I'm posting a reminder about Aloe Vera. If this is new to you, you should really read the beginning of threads. If it's not, my appologies for the umpteenth post about this amazing plant.
20160115_115604.jpgI Cloned a basil plant that I brought in after last year's first frost to show off the power of Aloe Vera and pure water. This plant had lost 90% of its foliage to frost, was flowering and severely underwatered. I took 4 cuts with a butter knife (for the purpose of this post, please don't use a butter knife to take cuttings...), dipped them in an aloe vera fillet, stuck them in a clear starbucks cup with distilled water and put another clear cup on top. They got stuck in my propagation chamber for my spider plants that gets 17hrs of light and only replaced the water once in 10ish days. It's seriously that simple. Do you ALOE bro?
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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DonBrennon said:
When you start reading into it you realize nothing is simple in soil science and I suppose it's just not had the same funding/interest as other sciences(except for profitable/chemical biased purposes). When you try to research this type of stuff, you find obscure one off papers that you either can't fully access or don't quite answer your questions. Nature has her way of doing things which we'll prob never understand, I'm learning it's better for us to KISS and let her do the work, lol.
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Haha exactly. I was doing fine teaching myself until I got into the actual organic chemistry of how the different cations and anions work... My learning slowed to a crawl lol. And you're right, there isn't shit for research on it. Thankfully state universities publish most of their stuff. Reading some it though, that's another matter.
 
DonBrennon

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Midwest Weedist said:
Because I feel it should be a staple in everyones garden; I'm posting a reminder about Aloe Vera. If this is new to you, you should really read the beginning of threads. If it's not, my appologies for the umpteenth post about this amazing plant.
View attachment 3586569I Cloned a basil plant that I brought in after last year's first frost to show off the power of Aloe Vera and pure water. This plant had lost 90% of its foliage to frost, was flowering and severely underwatered. I took 4 cuts with a butter knife (for the purpose of this post, please don't use a butter knife to take cuttings...), dipped them in an aloe vera fillet, stuck them in a clear starbucks cup with distilled water and put another clear cup on top. They got stuck in my propagation chamber for my spider plants that gets 17hrs of light and only replaced the water once in 10ish days. It's seriously that simple. Do you ALOE bro?
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Yeah I ALOE bro, the butter knife thing made me piss myself ;), just done a post on the organic cloning thread, check it out lol
 
DonBrennon

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Midwest Weedist said:
Haha exactly. I was doing fine teaching myself until I got into the actual organic chemistry of how the different cations and anions work... My learning slowed to a crawl lol. And you're right, there isn't shit for research on it. Thankfully state universities publish most of their stuff. Reading some it though, that's another matter.
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hahahahahaha, fookin cations and anions? read teaming with microbes, loved it, read teaming with nutrients, I was totally fookin lost, chemistry was never my strong science.
 
hyroot

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If anyone used guardian mite spray go see a doctor for real. It's a pesticide that was marketed towards probiotic and no till growers. Luckily I'm a cheap skate. ... lol. It came to light an independent lab tested it and the owner of the company said that guardian contains imid and ivermectin a neurotoxicity basically. So go get checked out. That chemical is used in medications and has a side effect of causing alzheimers
 
GreenSanta

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DonBrennon said:
hahahahahaha, fookin cations and anions? read teaming with microbes, loved it, read teaming with nutrients, I was totally fookin lost, chemistry was never my strong science.
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Haha DonBrennon that one resonated with me, I loved teaming with microbes, but I was lost in teaming with nutrients. Its a winter project of mine to start it over again. Maybe a lifelong project lol.
 
Midwest Weedist

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hyroot said:
If anyone used guardian mite spray go see a doctor for real. It's a pesticide that was marketed towards probiotic and no till growers. Luckily I'm a cheap skate. ... lol. It came to light an independent lab tested it and the owner of the company said that guardian contains imid and ivermectin a neurotoxicity basically. So go get checked out. That chemical is used in medications and has a side effect of causing alzheimers
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Been seeing this all over the internet.. What a joke. I hear the owner is supposedly an Illinois resident? Maybe I'll have to go give a neighbor a visit
 
DonBrennon

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Wanna say thanks to all contributors to this and the other organic threads, this is my second full run in rols(the first one got abandoned due to someone a little too close to home getting busted), I'm starting to get some beautiful fade colours coming through now and I've just had to tie 17 colas up for support and I'm expecting to have to do more tomorrow. Think they've got about 2 & 1/2 week left and they're stacking on some serious weight.

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I'll do a journal on my next run so I'm not clogging other people threads up with new my obsession for posting photos lol
 
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bizfactory

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I'm going into my second round of 15 gallon no till pots, I only added some EWC mid flower the first round. What would you guys recommend to top dress with on top of more ewc?

I was thinking maybe something like this for each pot (2 cu ft)
  • 1 c Kelp Meal
  • 1 c Crab Meal
  • 1 c Some sort of rock dust or other minerals?
Anything else I should consider adding? Plants faded at the end but not too bad and turned out to be a great harvest...not really sure how to adjust from that.
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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bizfactory said:
I'm going into my second round of 15 gallon no till pots, I only added some EWC mid flower the first round. What would you guys recommend to top dress with on top of more ewc?

I was thinking maybe something like this for each pot (2 cu ft)
  • 1 c Kelp Meal
  • 1 c Crab Meal
  • 1 c Some sort of rock dust or other minerals?
Anything else I should consider adding? Plants faded at the end but not too bad and turned out to be a great harvest...not really sure how to adjust from that.
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Add some glacial rock dusts and if you can find it maybe some comfrey leaves as a topdress. Fish hydrosolate is a great product for bloom, but can be expensive.
You could take some banana peels, dry them until brown and completely dry and use as a topdress if you wanna diy it.
 
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4ftRoots

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bizfactory said:
I'm going into my second round of 15 gallon no till pots, I only added some EWC mid flower the first round. What would you guys recommend to top dress with on top of more ewc?

I was thinking maybe something like this for each pot (2 cu ft)
  • 1 c Kelp Meal
  • 1 c Crab Meal
  • 1 c Some sort of rock dust or other minerals?
Anything else I should consider adding? Plants faded at the end but not too bad and turned out to be a great harvest...not really sure how to adjust from that.
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That is about 2 cubic feet of soil. I'd say thats perfect. I would leave out rock dust. Coot said to add that only once.
 
DonBrennon

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bizfactory said:
I'm going into my second round of 15 gallon no till pots, I only added some EWC mid flower the first round. What would you guys recommend to top dress with on top of more ewc?

I was thinking maybe something like this for each pot (2 cu ft)
  • 1 c Kelp Meal
  • 1 c Crab Meal
  • 1 c Some sort of rock dust or other minerals?
Anything else I should consider adding? Plants faded at the end but not too bad and turned out to be a great harvest...not really sure how to adjust from that.
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NEEM!!!!
 
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