EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

[Fogdog]

Those 4 losers are the Whiner Kings.

They should start a band. Carson on hemostats, Trump on obnoxious vocals, Rubio on loud pounding and Cruz on skin flute...

With the do nothing republican congress as the chorus.

 

[ttystikk]

Ohhh, its all about fairness now is it? A guy makes a decent but low wage for years producing something so that the management and shareholders can collect bonuses for absolutely no good reason and in the case of shareholders collect dividends for doing nothing. Said guy gets hurt at the factory and must live at near poverty for the rest of his life while the management that ran the dangerous sweat shop collect bonuses and shareholders continue to collect dividends without risking their bodies. The managers and shareholders pay almost no taxes because they have good accountants. The worker bee paid his fair share of taxes and SSI at a rate that is double or more that of the bosses. This system punishes the workers. The most successful do not and never have toiled like their minions do.

This is not hypothetical, companies like Tyson Foods and Walmart, are examples of your "fair" and "equal" treatment of the wealthy. Would you call the scions of Walmart's founder successful? Did the earn that distinction?

Where is the fairness in that?

I really appreciate the clarity of your arguments.

 

[Harrekin]

Ohhh, its all about fairness now is it? A guy makes a decent but low wage for years producing something so that the management and shareholders can collect bonuses for absolutely no good reason and in the case of shareholders collect dividends for doing nothing. Said guy gets hurt at the factory and must live at near poverty for the rest of his life while the management that ran the dangerous sweat shop collect bonuses and shareholders continue to collect dividends without risking their bodies. The managers and shareholders pay almost no taxes because they have good accountants. The worker bee paid his fair share of taxes and SSI at a rate that is double or more that of the bosses. This system punishes the workers. The most successful do not and never have toiled like their minions do.

This is not hypothetical, companies like Tyson Foods and Walmart, are examples of your "fair" and "equal" treatment of the wealthy. Would you call the scions of Walmart's founder successful? Did the earn that distinction?

Where is the fairness in that?

They choose to work there, or are they literal slaves?

Get a different job, who the fuck wants to work at Walmart for shit pay?

Lots of people?

Oh...

 

[Uncle Ben]

They choose to work there, or are they literal slaves?

They are enslaved in chains, forced to work long hours, given limited food rations during breaks and lunch. It's the American way.

Just the other day I saw this poor Walmart employee dragging a 20# ball around with her. I felt so sorry for her. You could tell she was helpless unable to do a damn thing about it. I mean with 6 hungry mouths to feed and one on the way, what's a poor girl to do?

In the meantime, looking past a barely opened door of a manager's lunch room were these corporate guys with huge PILES of 100$ bills on the tables. Throwing them up in the air, screaming in corporate glee - "isn't this great!"

 

[Harrekin]

They are enslaved in chains, forced to work long hours, given limited food rations during breaks and lunch. It's the American way.

Just the other day I saw this poor Walmart employee dragging a 20# ball around with her. I felt so sorry for her. You could tell she was helpless unable to do a damn thing about it. I mean with 6 hungry mouths to feed and one on the way, what's a poor girl to do?

In the meantime, looking past a barely opened door of a manager's lunch room were these corporate guys with huge PILES of 100$ bills on the tables. Throwing them up in the air, screaming in corporate glee - "isn't this great!"

Obviously kicking dogs and eating babies in there too...

Filthy capitalists.

 

[UncleBuck]

They are enslaved in chains, forced to work long hours, given limited food rations during breaks and lunch. It's the American way.

Just the other day I saw this poor Walmart employee dragging a 20# ball around with her. I felt so sorry for her. You could tell she was helpless unable to do a damn thing about it. I mean with 6 hungry mouths to feed and one on the way, what's a poor girl to do?

In the meantime, looking past a barely opened door of a manager's lunch room were these corporate guys with huge PILES of 100$ bills on the tables. Throwing them up in the air, screaming in corporate glee - "isn't this great!"

Obviously kicking dogs and eating babies in there too...

Filthy capitalists.

look at the two dumbass racists have a little soliloquy.

so cute.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Get a different job, who the fuck wants to work at Walmart for shit pay?

Nobody, genius. That's the point

They have to

That's what makes it slavery

Holy shit, do you own a set of crayons?

 

[NLXSK1]

Nobody, genius. That's the point

They have to

That's what makes it slavery

Holy shit, do you own a set of crayons?

So everyone who has to work for a living is a slave?

 

[Padawanbater2]

So everyone who has to work for a living is a slave?

Everyone who has to work for a living for a wage they're worth less than is a slave

Yes

 

[NLXSK1]

Everyone who has to work for a living for a wage they're worth less than is a slave

Yes

Who determines worth? It seems like the majority of the population in America are slaves and they dont even know it.

BTW, everyone has to work for a living or find someone to support them. That is how life is. You seem to not want that and are demanding the government change it.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Who determines worth?

The free market, case in point;

I'm demanding the government change the fact that the 1% has stolen the worth of productive workers since the mid 1970s

 

[NLXSK1]

The free market, case in point;

I'm demanding the government change the fact that the 1% has stolen the worth of productive workers since the mid 1970s

Do you understand what productivity is?

If you have a man with a shovel and give him a backhoe, suddenly he is 1000% more productive. Computer and mechanical technology is responsible for the majority of that productivity. You dont pay a ditch digger 1000* more than you were paying him when he was digging with a shovel rather than a backhoe because he is 1000 times more productive.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Computer and mechanical technology is responsible for the majority of that productivity.

Prove it

 

[NLXSK1]

Prove it

Prove what you are worth.

 

[UncleBuck]

Prove what you are worth.

not how burden of proof works.

you made a claim, now you get to cite it using evidence.

or don't cite it, since that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed the same way.

 

[ttystikk]

Since this is the official Bernie Sanders for president thread, I figured this would be the best place to ask what anyone has heard from his campaign lately?

The news blackout is amazing. It's confirming everything I suspected about what's really going on in our country.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Prove what you are worth.

I'm not the one making the claim, you are

It's your responsibility to prove that "Computer and mechanical technology is responsible for the majority of that productivity."

 

[NLXSK1]

Since this is the official Bernie Sanders for president thread, I figured this would be the best place to ask what anyone has heard from his campaign lately?

The news blackout is amazing. It's confirming everything I suspected about what's really going on in our country.

What is supposed to have happened to him? His twitter feed is still active as of 3 hours ago...

 

[NLXSK1]

I'm not the one making the claim, you are

It's your responsibility to prove that "Computer and mechanical technology is responsible for the majority of that productivity."

How else do you explain it? Are people suddenly faster, stronger and smarter than in the 1950's? Are they 300% better?

It is not my responsibility to prove reality to you. That was your parents job and they failed miserably.

 

[ttystikk]

How else do you explain it? Are people suddenly faster, stronger and smarter than in the 1950's? Are they 300% better?

It is not my responsibility to prove reality to you. That was your parents job and they failed miserably.

You made the claim, back it up.