Is it possible that NASA faked the moon landing?

justugh

justugh

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as for faking the moon landing

it is more then possible .......it was our dicks on the line we had to win so faking it would not be above possibility

the real ? is why did they Stop .....they go there and it stop .......they just walk away from it and go back to sending probes in deep space ......something is off about that

since the mid 80s they have had the skill /know how /equipment to make a luna base .......which makes more sense then a space station ( luna base and our current tech they can reach near the speed of light if they were to launch from the moon the lower gravity)

the part that gets me is the moon does not spin .......that is unnatural i am sorry it is wrong ......all the other moons around planets rotate (the moon is pit marked with impact some of those are huge it should of caused it to start spinning from the impact )....something is wrong with our moon
 
justugh

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hell u guys know why they have observatory so high up .......air causes distortions in the light

so a luna base would be ideal for scanning the sky and getting a clear picture (like the hubble telescope but it can be improved every year with newest tech)
think about seti project........using those dishes to scan for life they are in clouds of noise here out side the planet on the moon they would have a clear signal ......and the really kicker the moon 1/3 the gravity think of the size of the gear we can build up there .....or we can just use a crater that is already made and wire it up to be a big dish
 
Darth Vapour

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justugh said:
hell u guys know why they have observatory so high up .......air causes distortions in the light

so a luna base would be ideal for scanning the sky and getting a clear picture (like the hubble telescope but it can be improved every year with newest tech)
think about seti project........using those dishes to scan for life they are in clouds of noise here out side the planet on the moon they would have a clear signal ......and the really kicker the moon 1/3 the gravity think of the size of the gear we can build up there .....or we can just use a crater that is already made and wire it up to be a big dish
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Exactly

You know every now and then something comes into light See usa has to use we have the best of the best fighter jets ships etc etc etc . military the Best Technology,, BS
Its like the saying goes the person that keeps yapping in a bar that there tough or what ever really is a pussy ,, its the quiet guy in the corner you need to worry about ..
So with that said every know and then something pops up like this


On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest [1].

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives. This ship carries 56 Tomahawkmissiles in standard mode, and 96 missiles in attack mode.

The US destroyer is equipped with the most recent Aegis Combat System. It is an integrated naval weapons systems which can link together the missile defense systems of all vessels embedded within the same network, so as to ensure the detection, tracking and destruction of hundreds of targets at the same time. In addition, the USS Donald Cook is equipped with 4 large radars, whose power is comparable to that of several stations. For protection, it carries more than fifty anti-aircraft missiles of various types.

Meanwhile, the Russian Su-24 that buzzed the USS Donald Cook carried neither bombs nor missiles but only a basket mounted under the fuselage, which, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta [2], contained a Russian electronic warfare device called Khibiny.

As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.

After that, the 4th generation destroyer immediately set sail towards a port in Romania.

Since that incident, which the Atlanticist media have carefully covered up despite the widespread reactions sparked among defense industry experts, no US ship has ever approached Russian territorial waters again.

According to some specialized media, 27 sailors from theUSS Donald Cook requested to be relieved from active service.
 
Darth Vapour

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what i am trying to relay is YES i think USA hass been back peddling for years and infact scared shitless like that yapper in the bar thing i mentioned above all talk and fake motions i think i Americans really knew how there being fouled there would be a run on the government why do you think they want Snow DEN dead or alive ?? but lets look at another incident,, that western media covers up and of course the government


When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.
At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.
That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.
American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.
The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.



And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.



According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.



It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.



Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".



The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.



Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.



Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.



He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.



"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."





In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.



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By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.



According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.



The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.



One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.





The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.



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justugh

justugh

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Darth Vapour said:
Exactly

You know every now and then something comes into light See usa has to use we have the best of the best fighter jets ships etc etc etc . military the Best Technology,, BS
Its like the saying goes the person that keeps yapping in a bar that there tough or what ever really is a pussy ,, its the quiet guy in the corner you need to worry about ..
So with that said every know and then something pops up like this


On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest [1].

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives. This ship carries 56 Tomahawkmissiles in standard mode, and 96 missiles in attack mode.

The US destroyer is equipped with the most recent Aegis Combat System. It is an integrated naval weapons systems which can link together the missile defense systems of all vessels embedded within the same network, so as to ensure the detection, tracking and destruction of hundreds of targets at the same time. In addition, the USS Donald Cook is equipped with 4 large radars, whose power is comparable to that of several stations. For protection, it carries more than fifty anti-aircraft missiles of various types.

Meanwhile, the Russian Su-24 that buzzed the USS Donald Cook carried neither bombs nor missiles but only a basket mounted under the fuselage, which, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta [2], contained a Russian electronic warfare device called Khibiny.

As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.

After that, the 4th generation destroyer immediately set sail towards a port in Romania.

Since that incident, which the Atlanticist media have carefully covered up despite the widespread reactions sparked among defense industry experts, no US ship has ever approached Russian territorial waters again.

According to some specialized media, 27 sailors from theUSS Donald Cook requested to be relieved from active service.
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if the idea is true that most tech is based off reversed engineered ...ship or something outside of us ........then every bit of tech we have is crap as they seen it thought about and improved on it ...the advancement of human life has confused me at one time we were 1 step away from steam engines then 1800 years of lost time then in the last 200 years techs learn curve has advanced at a staggering rate .......the speeds we have now double every 16-18 months

it might be Roswell it might be one of the thousand of others
think about it in the 1940s/1950s computers were the size of houses........then the integrated circuit in1958 then the same person in 1961 makes the first computer chip ......from then on the rate of tech advances decreased to the point of now

something is not right timelines and natural thought progression been altered ......could be them could be the elite of us ....but something is massively wrong


as for the idea of life outside of this planet ........math proves it and with 200 billion galaxies out there all with 100,000 or more system that can support life .......thinking we are the only things in the universe is pretty egotistical (just like the earth is the center and the sun rotates around us)
 
reddan1981

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justugh said:
something is not right timelines and natural thought progression been altered ......could be them could be the elite of us ....but something is massively wrong


as for the idea of life outside of this planet ........math proves it and with 200 billion galaxies out there all with 100,000 or more system that can support life .......thinking we are the only things in the universe is pretty egotistical (just like the earth is the center and the sun rotates around us)
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Have you seen these galaxies with your own eyes, or through pictures? What can you see with your own eyes brother, that is what is truly real and relevant.
 
justugh

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reddan1981 said:
Have you seen these galaxies with your own eyes, or through pictures? What can you see with your own eyes brother, that is what is truly real and relevant.
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ok here
http://www.space.com/25303-how-many-galaxies-are-in-the-universe.html

100 billion galaxies .......some older then our own
incase u did not know our own place in the milky way is on a edge of the spiral arm ......this means we are one of the last things to have formed ..the inner part or the ones closer to the center of this galaxy formed long before the gas that made our sun formed so trillions of years of evolution (as patterns repeat in nature here it is safe to assume it does other places )

Math man it is all math the likely hood of other life exist is there ....now will i see one in my life time the odds are very very low on that but not impossible just improbable

math proves god
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel's_ontological_proof
math proves life outside our planet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

u guys want to be all logical .........MATH PROVES IT now u just have to accept it
 
Darth Vapour

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To think there is no other life in the universe ,,,, that we do not know for certain the size ???
Is crazy,, They have probably visited our planet and were so primitive to them they do not bother with us until such time we advance to there level
i think we have been helped by some aliens to advance in our evolution as well a technology
Cause i cannot see the young generations doing much stuck to there video games , and texting ,, we will see if the tech slows down in this generation cause students do not see anything in trades or sciences , they see things as corporate lawyers suing the remainding companies in america lol

And i do not believe we have advanced enough to go to the moon maybe in 20 years
 
hyroot

hyroot

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justugh said:
if the idea is true that most tech is based off reversed engineered ...ship or something outside of us ........then every bit of tech we have is crap as they seen it thought about and improved on it ...the advancement of human life has confused me at one time we were 1 step away from steam engines then 1800 years of lost time then in the last 200 years techs learn curve has advanced at a staggering rate .......the speeds we have now double every 16-18 months

it might be Roswell it might be one of the thousand of others
think about it in the 1940s/1950s computers were the size of houses........then the integrated circuit in1958 then the same person in 1961 makes the first computer chip ......from then on the rate of tech advances decreased to the point of now

something is not right timelines and natural thought progression been altered ......could be them could be the elite of us ....but something is massively wrong


as for the idea of life outside of this planet ........math proves it and with 200 billion galaxies out there all with 100,000 or more system that can support life .......thinking we are the only things in the universe is pretty egotistical (just like the earth is the center and the sun rotates around us)
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You forget there has been many advances that would have us further into the future of tech. But billion dollar companies buy the rights to that tech and bury it. Shit the first flying car was introduced in the 80's. It just hovered 20 feet in the air. Exxon Mobil bought the rights to that design and buried it. If Elon Musk didn't give his design away. Then some companies would have tried to buy it and bury it. Then electric cars wouldn't be where they are now.

The problem with little advance in tech compared to 30-50 years ago. Is the almighty dollar. Corrupt ceo's and politicians pushing their own personal agenda. Not caring about their fellow man.
 
justugh

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hyroot said:
You forget there has been many advances that would have us further into the future of tech. But billion dollar companies buy the rights to that tech and bury it. Shit the first flying car was introduced in the 80's. It just hovered 20 feet in the air. Exxon Mobil bought the rights to that design and buried it. If Elon Musk didn't give his design away. Then some companies would have tried to buy it and bury it. Then electric cars wouldn't be where they are now.

The problem with little advance in tech compared to 30-50 years ago. Is the almighty dollar. Corrupt ceo's and politicians pushing their own personal agenda. Not caring about their fellow man.
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i got one better then that
telsa work is still classified even tho the time frame has passed to lift the restriction
i was driving home thinking about it the other day ........if my car was electric and they did build the world grid like telsa wanted too i would be driving for free i could run any machine at any part of the world plug or no plug ......i thought about this because the price of oil barrel is dropping but the cost at the pump is not ........i heard 35 bucks a barrel means a 99 cents a gallon should be there

the only thing u can do is stock up and wait for the whole thing to go crazy it to break and ppl to revolt .........it has happen in history in several countries no reason to think the USA is above it (we kind of proven we are pitty little kids having a pissing match in congress for last several years )

here is the part most ppl do not understand .....the real truth
it is all worthless ........money stocks all of it has no real value as it is a huge paper system with nothing backing it ........USA is the hugest ponzai scam ever run ( it is going to fail soon think about it now when u die 33to 50% of all your wealth goes to the government not your family not who u picked but the government after u have already paid taxes on it countless times) that is how bad it has gotten

all the money printed all the money on data files in the computers ......there is not enough of anything on the planet to back it not gold not silver not platinum not even combined metals and gems

the system is done once USA cracks with a AA credit rating ....the stock market crash is going to seem like a nice day dream
 
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hyroot

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justugh said:
i got one better then that
telsa work is still classified even tho the time frame has passed to lift the restriction
i was driving home thinking about it the other day ........if my car was electric and they did build the world grid like telsa wanted too i would be driving for free i could run any machine at any part of the world plug or no plug ......i thought about this because the price of oil barrel is dropping but the cost at the pump is not ........i heard 35 bucks a barrel means a 99 cents a gallon should be there

the only thing u can do is stock up and wait for the whole thing to go crazy it to break and ppl to revolt .........it has happen in history in several countries no reason to think the USA is above it (we kind of proven we are pitty little kids having a pissing match in congress for last several years )

here is the part most ppl do not understand .....the real truth
it is all worthless ........money stocks all of it has no real value as it is a huge paper system with nothing backing it ........USA is the hugest ponzai scam ever run ( it is going to fail soon think about it now when u die 33to 50% of all your wealth goes to the government not your family not who u picked but the government after u have already paid taxes on it countless times) that is how bad it has gotten

all the money printed all the money on data files in the computers ......there is not enough of anything on the planet to back it not gold not silver not platinum not even combined metals and gems

the system is done once USA cracks with a AA credit rating ....the stock market crash is going to seem like a nice day dream
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When my dad passed. My mom had to pay$35,000 in past taxes covering 4 different years. Not consecutively either.

I was just explaining to my mom earlier about the private reserved banks loaning money to the government on monies that don't exist.. and blah blah inflation, debt to China etc.... She argued saying well fox news reports says this this and that. I'm sure fox news will make a retraction tomorrow then lol. I even explained how the U.S dollar isn't even in the top 10 of the strongest dollar. Everyone said I didn't know what I'm talking about. Even though the strongest dollar is the Kuwaiti Dinar.

If trump gets elected and his plan of lifting some taxes on companies so they will come back to the U.S from over seas then that will make the dollar stronger eventually. We need to get back on the gold standard. Everything went to shit when we went off it.

Another example of shady corporate practices over a 100 years ago.
Fucked up story about tesla the man. We all know he invented induction lighting and free electricity for everyone. The induction bulbs last 10 years. But jp Morgan wasn't having it. So he had all production of flourescent lighting banned from the U.S. long before the E.P.A. existed and they banned it. Jp Morgan then commissioned Edison to come up with a light to utilize his mercury mines. So he can make money off the mines. Hence the incandescent and bulb that last a month. Edison wasn't having free electricity when he could charge for it....


When everything crashes and we start speaking russian....
 
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justugh

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hyroot said:
When everything crashes and we start speaking russian....
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Red DAWN

i am insane so if shit goes sideways i am in my element ........i am crazy enough and paranoid enough to survive it and help something to fight back.....the only real ? left is will i crack completely loose it and need to be put down
 
reddan1981

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justugh said:
ok here
http://www.space.com/25303-how-many-galaxies-are-in-the-universe.html

100 billion galaxies .......some older then our own
incase u did not know our own place in the milky way is on a edge of the spiral arm ......this means we are one of the last things to have formed ..the inner part or the ones closer to the center of this galaxy formed long before the gas that made our sun formed so trillions of years of evolution (as patterns repeat in nature here it is safe to assume it does other places )

Math man it is all math the likely hood of other life exist is there ....now will i see one in my life time the odds are very very low on that but not impossible just improbable

math proves god
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel's_ontological_proof
math proves life outside our planet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

u guys want to be all logical .........MATH PROVES IT now u just have to accept it
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Math is not a verification of the observable. The problem is, when you use your eyes to say this earth is still and visibly flat on all water bodies. Now math tells us water isn't flat, math tells us water is curved, but the observable can be proven with apparatus. When will everyone understand that math can be molded to fit any shape, you don't even need to use numbers for math.
 
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