"Area 51 LED" Information and discussion

Andrewjw09

Member
Tried to order four RW150's today and the paypal payment page keeps giving me this error
"The card you entered cannot be used for this payment. Please enter a different credit or debit card number."

Any idea why? Google says it could be that the card is already linked to a paypal account but I don't have an account with them... :cuss:
 

Andrewjw09

Member
your bank might have a spending limit set on your card
Nah I called my bank and they said that there's no limit. Then I called paypal and they're saying that when the request goes through to the bank it's returning an error saying the CSV is wrong. Which is bullshit because it's the same card I've been using for a year with the same CSV. Looks like I'm gonna have to buy a visa gift card and use that.

This is exactly why I don't have a paypal account. They suck.
 

Scotch089

Well-Known Member
Paypal isn't bad don't let one instance ruin it for you. Ever heard of paypal credit or billmelater? Uh. It rocks. 6-18 months no interest. Think I'm up to a 2g limit with minimal use. Just when I see something I can't live without.

Did you create the account specifically for this purchase? If so could it have been typed in wrong
 

Andrewjw09

Member
Paypal isn't bad don't let one instance ruin it for you. Ever heard of paypal credit or billmelater? Uh. It rocks. 6-18 months no interest. Think I'm up to a 2g limit with minimal use. Just when I see something I can't live without.

Did you create the account specifically for this purchase? If so could it have been typed in wrong
Nah I didn't make an account. I was using the guest checkout.

Yeah I agree that paypal is super convenient to have, but just wait until your account gets frozen and all your funds are held for up to 6 months at paypal's discretion. And they will do this even if you did nothing wrong and just so happened to buy from someone that had another transaction with someone else that had a transaction with someone who committed fraud.

There was one guy that had all his business funds on paypal... about 20 grand. Someone who was suspicious of fraud bought something from his company and paid through paypal. So they froze his paypal account for 6 months and he lost his business, not being able to take out money for payroll etc. And there's nothing he could do about it because it's literally written in their terms of use that they can freeze your account at any time and hold your money for up to 180 days at their discretion. There's tons of horror stories just like this on paypalsucks.com.
 

Andrewjw09

Member
Girls love the RW-150 so far!
RW-150 temps at 120 hours fans are silent​
Nice, man! Thanks for the pics of the thermo readings. I was hoping they'd run cooler than my T5HO's, but now I know for sure. I did the same test on my quantum badboy fixture and it was running at 90+ on the case near where the ballasts sit. Can we get more pics of the plants themselves? How old are they?

What are the temps at the leaf?
 

Purplex

Member
Nice, man! Thanks for the pics of the thermo readings. I was hoping they'd run cooler than my T5HO's, but now I know for sure. I did the same test on my quantum badboy fixture and it was running at 90+ on the case near where the ballasts sit. Can we get more pics of the plants themselves? How old are they?

What are the temps at the leaf?
It's hard to get a nice picture but, I put the gun right on top of the diode 86F. Outdoor temps around 90+- really impressed so far. Check out my journal pics bellow are day 8
https://www.rollitup.org/t/chocolate-hashberry.867795/#post-11520673
 

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Andrewjw09

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Well guys... looks like I'm not getting the A51's... They only accept paypal and paypal froze my account for no reason until I provide basically my entire life for verification (photo ID, bank statement, credit card statement and proof of SSN). Not a chance in hell! Anybody willing to part with their RW150's and accept credit card? :wall:
 

puffenuff

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Well guys... looks like I'm not getting the A51's... They only accept paypal and paypal froze my account for no reason until I provide basically my entire life for verification (photo ID, bank statement, credit card statement and proof of SSN). Not a chance in hell! Anybody willing to part with their RW150's and accept credit card? :wall:
Can't you open a new PayPal account using a different email address?
 

Andrewjw09

Member
Can't you open a new PayPal account using a different email address?
Nah dude, doesn't matter. They'll still know it's me by my shipping address and name and see that I have another account that's frozen and freeze the new one too.

The one that's frozen now is a brand new account I just opened yesterday... but I'm not willing to verify my identify by giving them all that information. I'm thinking maybe if I use a VPN, a prepaid visa card and have it shipped to my mom's house it'll go through.
 

puffenuff

Well-Known Member
Nah dude, doesn't matter. They'll still know it's me by my shipping address and name and see that I have another account that's frozen and freeze the new one too.

The one that's frozen now is a brand new account I just opened yesterday... but I'm not willing to verify my identify by giving them all that information. I'm thinking maybe if I use a VPN, a prepaid visa card and have it shipped to my mom's house it'll go through.
Crazy, I didn't realize they did all those checks. TOR client, new email address, prepaid visa and a different shipping address should work then. But damn, such a hassel...also surprised A51 doesn't take credit cards. Good luck bro. Hope you get figured out
 

Andrewjw09

Member
Just wanted to mention that A51 has been great at replying back to emails very quickly and helping me work out a way to pay. Great customer service! Order is placed, looking forward to my 4 RW-150's! :eek:
 
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