Feds: Banks Should Call Police if Customer Withdraws More Than $5k in Cash

[ginwilly]

It's you so I'll just go ahead and blame democrats for ya. Saves time. GW you don't have to speak to me in this insulting manner..i'm talking to you already this does not get my attention and makes me think less of you because you are a degreed medical professional who had to get at least 75% on courses rather than the normal 70%..because we are held to a higher standard. this does not endear yourself to me.

california is also a bunch of nut cases who look down on others that visit their state as "imposing"..you're nothing more, than an imposition to them. they don't like you..they will take your money, then they want you to go away..don't try to be friends as you may have ulterior motive and 'want something' from them.

the vegetation is also very brown and dead there, which must contribute to their misery.

Sky, you have to admit that you blame all ills on the right, have called the right stupid and out of touch and have gone so far as to blame everything that's happened bad under this administration on the right.

Are you trying to say you don't? I don't blame everything on the dems, the pubs have shit on us too, I just don't sit and blame one party for all of the world's ills.

Deny this?

 

[ginwilly]

I was just bitching a little to. No biggie. Didn't mean nothing by it. I just meant we can't rely on the general public to freely give in place of income taxes.

I agree somewhat but to have exactly what you want we would be a lawless society.
You have heard my opinions you know where I stand. I'm definitely not for a nanny state.

No offense taken, but why do you think we can't replace income taxes? We used to not collect those on the federal level we still have states that get by without them.

 

[see4]

Again, I mostly just state facts. When I call you stupid, it is indeed a fact and not an insult. You clearly identify yourself as such when you can't even grasp simple definitions.

The fact you think you're still right anyway indicates your ego clouds out any ability to reason, which just adds to the case of stupidity. Just facts like I see them I'm afraid.

Hmm, you seem to not understand the definition of hypocrisy. And irony seems to escape you as well. Here, I've posted links to both for you to review.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

 

[see4]

Again. your default position is that a coercive system "automatically" owns people and has the authority to dictate the terms.

No, these are your words

When I ask you where they got that authority from, you can't answer. Obviously their authority does not arise from any form of actual consent by the individuals they forcibly control.

Give me specifics. To who are you referring? And to whom are they controlling? Be specific.

Your skirting around that, and building arguments that ignore that, means you've granted an exception for government to use force, in instances where if you or I used force we would clearly be in the wrong.

We have all granted exception for government to use force, as you describe it. Just as they are accountable and held liable (which seems less so these days) for the promises they intended to fulfill when "forcefully" taking our taxes.

I agree, that if I were to go to my neighbor and demand that he give me $100 so that I could use some of that money to sweep his sidewalk and look out for bad guys, that would be nothing more than extortion. And in that sense, I suppose HOA is not much more than extortion, nor the state government "demanding" tax dollars. And all that is no different than a business owner denying someone the right to use their facility or purchase their products, which from what I understand you are ok with.

How is it that a thing wrong, becomes "right" just because people with self granted authority proclaim it is right when they do it and wrong when others do it? Is it magic or is it a gun?

Now are you referring to business owners who deny people access based on skin color or sexual preference, or are you referring to government?

Your inability to see your cognitive dissonance facilitates your ignorance.

Cognitive dissonance is certainly not a facilitator to ignorance. Ignorance by definition is, "lack of knowledge or information". Cognitive dissonance is the discomfort in holding two or more contradictory beliefs or is confronted with new information that conflicts with existing beliefs. Because I choose not to be persuaded by your false equivalent arguments does not mean that I am either ignorant or experiencing cognitive dissonance, it just means you have not done a good enough job in your persuasion. Something you misunderstand about me, is that I can be pretty open minded, as most intelligent people are, as long as they can be persuaded.

Remember, you are the one making the claims, you need to persuade me. I have the advantage of continuing as I have with no worse the wear.

 

[see4]

So you are trying to claim that "we" doesn't include "you"?

Shut up and make me a sandwich, bitch.

In the context of the conversation I was most definitely referring to myself as well. Typical of someone who has no understanding of context, meaning, debate and conversation, words have context to the scope of what is being said at that very moment.

Do I think I am better than you? Most definitely I am.
Do I think I am better than the rest of your Klansmen buddies? You damn right I do.

Just as you fucking hypocrites do of me. See how that works? Bitch.

 

[schuylaar]

Sky, you have to admit that you blame all ills on the right, have called the right stupid and out of touch and have gone so far as to blame everything that's happened bad under this administration on the right.

Are you trying to say you don't? I don't blame everything on the dems, the pubs have shit on us too, I just don't sit and blame one party for all of the world's ills.

Deny this?

you blame the left and everything on obama when bush left this place burning..so if i'm a bit unhappy with the goings on with the right? totally justified further, baby bush has a goal and is polling way below what dubya did at this same point in time..i think the country is finally starting to realize the the right, single-handedly is what's wrong with this country.

it doesn't work the way of the GOP..there is NO trickle down. period.

you're for low taxes how come you don't get them? the ruling class does.

you're for small eutopian government..no rules; no regs good luck living in a society like that..and yet, you haven't answered any of my questions which makes you a bad debate partner.

 

[schuylaar]

No offense taken, but why do you think we can't replace income taxes? We used to not collect those on the federal level we still have states that get by without them.

when was that ginwilly..what century? early 20th? when women and children were working sweat shop jobs with limbs maimed and death? when women were still basically nothing more than a man's possession? no vote? you mean then? the reason why things changed was because the original idea wasn't working..that's how we get rules and regs.

 

[ginwilly]

you blame the left and everything on obama when bush left this place burning..so if i'm a bit unhappy with the goings on with the right? totally justified further, baby bush has a goal and is polling way below what dubya did at this same point in time..i think the country is finally starting to realize the the right, single-handedly is what's wrong with this country.

it doesn't work the way of the GOP..there is NO trickle down. period.

you're for low taxes how come you don't get them? the ruling class does.

you're for small eutopian government..no rules; no regs good luck living in a society like that..and yet, you haven't answered any of my questions which makes you a bad debate partner.

You have me in a box that I don't even come close to belonging in. I'm a pot head, tree hugging, gay marriage supporting, abortion rights advocate who hated Bush and am against our intervention in the Middle East. I also spend each day helping people in need and improving the quality of lives one at a time. I just don't worship at the government altar so you assume I'm Dick Cheney or something.

Which questions have I avoided? The one where you paint all Californians the same? Don't agree and arguing with that seemed pointless.

 

[ginwilly]

when was that ginwilly..what century? early 20th? when women and children were working sweat shop jobs with limbs maimed and death? when women were still basically nothing more than a man's possession? no vote? you mean then? the reason why things changed was because the original idea wasn't working..that's how we get rules and regs.

Wait, so you think we switched to INCOME tax as the main revenue over consumption, tariffs, trade taxes was so women could vote?

Please stop putting your ideas of who you think I am in your posts, I'm losing more and more respect for you by the day.

 

[UncleBuck]

Public schools main purpose is not to educate, it is to indoctrinate and create a pliable herd.

then why did you choose to send your kids there, dumbass?

LOL

 

[UncleBuck]

Yep, been guilty of this myself, not so much intimidated as it was easier to just comply and go on with my life. I fumed the first time I was stopped at a "DUI checkpoint", how the hell is that legal? But I wasn't drunk, showed my license and insurance and was waved through.

Refusing on the grounds of illegal search and seizure is what I wanted to do, but I would have caused myself misery I'm sure.

too bad DUI check points are perfectly constitutional when done in the correct fashion.

 

[UncleBuck]

that's because they have been indoctrinated and encouraged to report.

peasant reporting peasant.

perhaps they aren't well read? or political like we are..

perhaps if you were "well read", you'd have brushed up on the supreme court cases on DUI checkpoints and realized that there is broad consensus on legal ones versus illegal ones.

 

[UncleBuck]

A consumption tax would be voluntary.

yeah, the most regressive tax possible would be a great idea you fucking scab.

maybe try thinking before you open your mouth.

 

[see4]

You have me in a box that I don't even come close to belonging in. I'm a pot head, tree hugging, gay marriage supporting, abortion rights advocate who hated Bush and am against our intervention in the Middle East. I also spend each day helping people in need and improving the quality of lives one at a time. I just don't worship at the government altar so you assume I'm Dick Cheney or something.

Which questions have I avoided? The one where you paint all Californians the same? Don't agree and arguing with that seemed pointless.

If this is actually how you feel, I think differently of you ginwilly.

 

[UncleBuck]

Here's what you don't get. If the Federal government was smaller and less centralized, the states could charge whatever they wanted. Imagine a federal income tax of 10% across the board and states like California charging 28%. You think they'd have high speed rails by now? Me too. You think Florida would look much more inviting to businesses with lower taxes? Me too. Those who tend to lean left don't seem to get this.

i don't know what you don't get about regressive taxation, or why you think blue states would have to tax their citizens more.

the plain fact is that red states are the welfare sucking states, and are propped up by the productive blue states.

all your retarded spam won't change this at all.

 

[Rob Roy]

No, these are your words



Give me specifics. To who are you referring? And to whom are they controlling? Be specific.



We have all granted exception for government to use force, as you describe it. Just as they are accountable and held liable (which seems less so these days) for the promises they intended to fulfill when "forcefully" taking our taxes.

I agree, that if I were to go to my neighbor and demand that he give me $100 so that I could use some of that money to sweep his sidewalk and look out for bad guys, that would be nothing more than extortion. And in that sense, I suppose HOA is not much more than extortion, nor the state government "demanding" tax dollars. And all that is no different than a business owner denying someone the right to use their facility or purchase their products, which from what I understand you are ok with.



Now are you referring to business owners who deny people access based on skin color or sexual preference, or are you referring to government?



Cognitive dissonance is certainly not a facilitator to ignorance. Ignorance by definition is, "lack of knowledge or information". Cognitive dissonance is the discomfort in holding two or more contradictory beliefs or is confronted with new information that conflicts with existing beliefs. Because I choose not to be persuaded by your false equivalent arguments does not mean that I am either ignorant or experiencing cognitive dissonance, it just means you have not done a good enough job in your persuasion. Something you misunderstand about me, is that I can be pretty open minded, as most intelligent people are, as long as they can be persuaded.

Remember, you are the one making the claims, you need to persuade me. I have the advantage of continuing as I have with no worse the wear.

Remember during our most recent conversation how you avoided answering my questions? I do too.

When you can go back and answer them, I might consider destroying your latest claims.

I haven't even read them yet and probably won't bother. Have a nice day.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't have the time now to dismantle what you just said, but your statement is demonstrably false.

no, your whole utopian dream of voluntary everything is what is "demonstrably false".

and unlike you, i can easily demonstrate it.

http://inthesetimes.com/duly-noted/entry/11975/ron_pauls_former_campaign_manager_died_uninsured_free

this guy worked for your hero, rawn pawl.

ol' rawn refused to insure his staffers, so this guy died from an easily treatable illness, racking up $400,000 worth of medical debt along the way.

how much did voluntary donations cover? about 10%.

who covered the other 90% of the tab? the rest of us had to cover that part because of freeloading little mooches like you.

 

[schuylaar]

You have me in a box that I don't even come close to belonging in. I'm a pot head, tree hugging, gay marriage supporting, abortion rights advocate who hated Bush and am against our intervention in the Middle East. I also spend each day helping people in need and improving the quality of lives one at a time. I just don't worship at the government altar so you assume I'm Dick Cheney or something.

Which questions have I avoided? The one where you paint all Californians the same? Don't agree and arguing with that seemed pointless.

funny, you don't act like it..additionally, i never said "all" cali..once again, you've twisted my words..and you always do this.

 

[UncleBuck]

You have me in a box that I don't even come close to belonging in. I'm a pot head, tree hugging, gay marriage supporting, abortion rights advocate who hated Bush and am against our intervention in the Middle East.

you left out the part where you espouse white supremacist views, support a candidate who wants to fight against gay marriage, keep cannabis illegal, make abortion a crime, you deny the facts about global warming, have provided zero evidence that you grow or smoke, and never made a peep about george w bush when he was in office (as evidence by your pocketfixes account).

so besides the fact that you are 100% lying, you are totally right.

 

[see4]

A pay as you go society is the only fair and just kind there is.

Let's isolate this idea right here for a moment.

For the basis of this argument, let's say I agree with you that consumption tax is more favorable than income tax.

Are we to pay for the same expenditures the government has now? Defense, health, education, etc. With that consumption tax?

And let's say consumption tax is implemented, what is to stop you [and the like] from crying that consumption tax is coercive?

Before you respond, I'd like to make an assumption that it's not how we are being taxed, but rather the tax itself, is what bothers you.