OddBall1st
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You said anal........
Islam can dish it out, but can't take it
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abandonconflict
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And that gets you all hot and bothered...
OddBall1st
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It was a Bevis rib....Butthead....
overgrowem
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Shoot..Later that was followed by a few hundred years of Christians slaughtering Christians for not being Christians. Face it the tangible result of organized religion is slaughter.
abandonconflict
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It's OK if you're gay, just stop being homophobic and come out of the closet already.
cc2012
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28 January 2015 Last updated at 21:05
France is trying to counter the recruitment of youngsters by jihadist groups
The French government has released an online video designed to steer young people away from joining militant groups in the Middle East.
The two-minute video features hard-hitting scenes of conflict and execution.
It is part of French efforts to stop the recruitment of more youngsters, often via the internet.
More than 1,000 French residents have joined extremist groups to fight in Syria or Iraq or are planning to do so.
The release comes three weeks after attacks by home-grown jihadists in Paris in which 17 people were killed.
The video uses images familiar from jihadist websites such as scenes of jubilant fighters celebrating in Syria or Iraq.
'Hell on earth'
But the scenes of war-time camaraderie and moral victory are interspersed with darker images, showing a different side to the conflicts there.
Black and white footage of men being crucified, thrown over a cliff and dragged along behind a truck are overlaid with government messages, warning of "hell on earth".
Far from helping Syrian children, the video tells viewers they will be complicit in the murder of civilians and die alone, far from home.
Other messages are clearly directed at women. "They tell you come and start a family with one of our heroes", the video warns. "In reality you will raise your children in war and terror."
Shock effect
"We will broadcast this video widely on social networks in order to reach the maximum number of young people vulnerable to these calls. We hope it will shock them", the head of the French government's communication department Christian Gravel told Agence France-Presse.
The French government has battled for months against what it calls "terrorist propaganda on the internet".
The deadly attacks in France three weeks ago have refocused attention on the threat from home-grown jihadists many of whom are attracted to extremist groups over the internet.
The French interior minister has said he will meet major internet companies in the US next month, to try to find new answers to the problem.
France releases online video to tackle jihadist recruitment
France is trying to counter the recruitment of youngsters by jihadist groups
The French government has released an online video designed to steer young people away from joining militant groups in the Middle East.
The two-minute video features hard-hitting scenes of conflict and execution.
It is part of French efforts to stop the recruitment of more youngsters, often via the internet.
More than 1,000 French residents have joined extremist groups to fight in Syria or Iraq or are planning to do so.
The release comes three weeks after attacks by home-grown jihadists in Paris in which 17 people were killed.
The video uses images familiar from jihadist websites such as scenes of jubilant fighters celebrating in Syria or Iraq.
'Hell on earth'
But the scenes of war-time camaraderie and moral victory are interspersed with darker images, showing a different side to the conflicts there.
Black and white footage of men being crucified, thrown over a cliff and dragged along behind a truck are overlaid with government messages, warning of "hell on earth".
Far from helping Syrian children, the video tells viewers they will be complicit in the murder of civilians and die alone, far from home.
Other messages are clearly directed at women. "They tell you come and start a family with one of our heroes", the video warns. "In reality you will raise your children in war and terror."
Shock effect
"We will broadcast this video widely on social networks in order to reach the maximum number of young people vulnerable to these calls. We hope it will shock them", the head of the French government's communication department Christian Gravel told Agence France-Presse.
The French government has battled for months against what it calls "terrorist propaganda on the internet".
The deadly attacks in France three weeks ago have refocused attention on the threat from home-grown jihadists many of whom are attracted to extremist groups over the internet.
The French interior minister has said he will meet major internet companies in the US next month, to try to find new answers to the problem.
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cc2012
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THREE
STAGES OF
JIHAD
STAGES OF
JIHAD
“Surely Allah has bought of the believers
their persons and their property for this,
that they shall have the garden; they fight
in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.”
-
Qur’an 9:111
“Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah,
and those who are with him are severe
against disbelievers, and merciful among
themselves.”
-
Qur’an 48:29
their persons and their property for this,
that they shall have the garden; they fight
in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.”
-
Qur’an 9:111
“Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah,
and those who are with him are severe
against disbelievers, and merciful among
themselves.”
-
Qur’an 48:29
STAGE ONE
When Muslims are completely outnumbered and
can’t possibly win a physical confrontation with unbelievers, they
are to live in peace with non-Muslims and preach a message of
tolerance. We see an example of this stage when Muhammad and
his followers were a persecuted minority in Mecca. Since the
Muslims were entirely outnumbered, the revelations Muhammad
received during this stage (e.g. “You shall have your religion and
I shall have my religion”) called for religious tolerance and
proclaimed a future punishment (rather than a worldly punishment)
for unbelievers
STAGE TWO
When there are enough Muslims and resources to defend the Islamic
community, Muslims are called to engage in defensive Jihad. Thus,
when Muhammad had formed alliances with various groups outside
Mecca and the Muslim community had become large enough to begin
fighting, Muhammad received
Qur’an 22:39 - 40:
Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made
because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to
assist them; Those who have been expelled from
their homes without a just cause except that they say: our Lord is Allah. . .
Although Muslims in the West often pretend that Islam only
allows defensive fighting, later revelations show otherwise.
STAGE THREE
When Muslims establish a majority and achieve political power in an area,
they are commanded to engage in offensive Jihad. Hence, once Mecca
and Arabia were under Muhammad’s control, he received the call the fight all
unbelievers. In Surah 9:29, we read:
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden
which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the
Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah
with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Notice
that this verse doesn’t order Muslims to fight oppressors, but to fight those who
don’t believe in Islam (including the“People of the Book”—Jews and Christians).
Not surprisingly, we find similar commands in Islam’s most
trusted collections of ahadith (traditions containing Muhammad’s teachings).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6924 — Muhammad said: “I have been ordered to fight the
people till they say: La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah),
and whoever said La ilaha illa llah, Allah will save his property and his life from me.”
Sahih Muslim 30 — Muhammad said: “I have been commanded
to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is
no god but Allah.”
Here again, the criterion for fighting people is that the people believe something
other than Islam.
It’s clear, then, that when Muslims rose to power, peaceful verses of the Qur’an
were abrogated by verses commanding Muslims to fight people based on their beliefs.
Islam’s greatest scholars acknowledge this. For instance, Ibn Kathir (Islam’s greatest
commentator on the Qur’an) sums up Stage Three as follows:
“Therefore all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses
to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizyah, they should be fought till they are killed.”
Assessment
Is Islam a religion of peace? No. Islam is a religion that pretends
to be peaceful when Muslims are too weak to win a war.
When Islam is dominant, Muslims are commanded to subjugate or kill
everyone around them. (Just look at how non-Muslims are treated
in Muslim countries; compare this constant abuse and persecution
with what is being proclaimed about “peaceful” Islam by
Westernized Muslims.) Of course, there are many Muslims who
aren’t violent. Many Muslims in the West love peace and tolerance.
But they didn’t get these values from Islam. They got
them from the West, and now they’re reinterpreting Islam based
on their Western values. For dedicated Muslims, however, there
are only two possible situations to be in: (1) fighting unbelievers,
and (2) pretending to be peaceful while preparing to fight unbelievers.
Either way, conquering the world in the name of Allah is always the goal.
cc2012
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Muslim Brotherhood-Aligned Leaders Hosted at State Department
Brotherhood seeks to rally anti-Sisi supportt
BY: Adam Kredo
January 28, 2015 5:00 am
The State Department hosted a delegation of Muslim Brotherhood-aligned leaders this week for a meeting about their ongoing efforts to oppose the current government of President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi of Egypt, who rose to power following the overthrow of Mohamed Morsi, an ally of the Brotherhood, in 2013.
One member of the delegation, a Brotherhood-aligned judge in Egypt, posed for a picture while at Foggy Bottom in which he held up the Islamic group’s notorious four-finger Rabia symbol, according to his Facebook page.
That delegation member, Waleed Sharaby, is a secretary-general of the Egyptian Revolutionary Council and a spokesman for Judges for Egypt, a group reported to have close ties to the Brotherhood.
The delegation also includes Gamal Heshmat, a leading member of the Brotherhood, and Abdel Mawgoud al-Dardery, a Brotherhood member who served as a parliamentarian from Luxor. Sharaby, the Brotherhood-aligned judge, flashed the Islamist group’s popular symbol in his picture at the State Department and wrote in a caption: “Now in the U.S. State Department. Your steadfastness impresses everyone,” according to an independent translation of the Arabic.
Another member of the delegation, Maha Azzam, confirmed during an event hosted Tuesday by the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy (CSID)—another group accused of having close ties to the Brotherhood—that the delegation had “fruitful” talks with the State Department.
“Maha Azzam confirms that ‘anti-coup’ delegation, which includes 2 top [Muslim Brothers], had ‘fruitful’ conversations at State Dept,” Egypt expert Eric Trager tweeted.
Assam also said that the department expressed openness to engagement, according to one person who attended the event.
Trager, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), told the Washington Free Beacon that the State Department is interested in maintaining a dialogue with the Brotherhood due to its continued role in the Egyptian political scene.
“The State Department continues to speak with Muslim Brothers on the assumption that Egyptian politics are unpredictable, and the Brotherhood still has some support in Egypt,” he said. “But when pro-Brotherhood delegations then post photos of themselves making pro-Brotherhood gestures in front of the State Department logo, it creates an embarrassment for the State Department.”
When asked to comment on the meeting Tuesday evening, a State Department official said, “We meet with representatives from across the political spectrum in Egypt.”
The official declined to elaborate on who may have been hosted or on any details about the timing and substance of any talks.
Samuel Tadros, an Egypt expert and research fellow at the Hudson Institute who is familiar with the delegation, said that the visit is meant to rally support for the Muslim Brotherhood’s ongoing efforts against to oppose Sisi.
“I think the Muslim Brotherhood visit serves two goals,” Tadros said. “First, organizing the pro Muslim Brotherhood movement in the U.S. among the Egyptian and other Arab and Muslim communities.”
“Secondly, reaching out to administration and the policy community in D.C.,” Tadros said. “The delegation’s composition includes several non-official Muslim Brotherhood members to portray an image of a united Islamist and non-Islamist revolutionary camp against the regime.”
The delegation held several public events this week in Maryland and Virginia, according to invitations that were sent out.
Patrick Poole, a terrorism expert and national security reporter, said the powwow at the State Department could be a sign that the Obama administration still considers the Brotherhood politically viable, despite its ouster from power and a subsequent crackdown on its members by Egyptian authorities.
“What this shows is that the widespread rejection of the Muslim Brotherhood across the Middle East, particularly the largest protests in recorded human history in Egypt on June 30, 2013, that led to Morsi’s ouster, is not recognized by the State Department and the Obama administration,” Poole said.
“This is a direct insult to our Egyptian allies, who are in an existential struggle against the Muslim Brotherhood, all in the pursuit of the mythical ‘moderate Islamists’ who the D.C. foreign policy elite still believe will bring democracy to the Middle East,” Poole said.
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Brotherhood seeks to rally anti-Sisi supportt
BY: Adam Kredo
January 28, 2015 5:00 am
The State Department hosted a delegation of Muslim Brotherhood-aligned leaders this week for a meeting about their ongoing efforts to oppose the current government of President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi of Egypt, who rose to power following the overthrow of Mohamed Morsi, an ally of the Brotherhood, in 2013.
One member of the delegation, a Brotherhood-aligned judge in Egypt, posed for a picture while at Foggy Bottom in which he held up the Islamic group’s notorious four-finger Rabia symbol, according to his Facebook page.
That delegation member, Waleed Sharaby, is a secretary-general of the Egyptian Revolutionary Council and a spokesman for Judges for Egypt, a group reported to have close ties to the Brotherhood.
The delegation also includes Gamal Heshmat, a leading member of the Brotherhood, and Abdel Mawgoud al-Dardery, a Brotherhood member who served as a parliamentarian from Luxor. Sharaby, the Brotherhood-aligned judge, flashed the Islamist group’s popular symbol in his picture at the State Department and wrote in a caption: “Now in the U.S. State Department. Your steadfastness impresses everyone,” according to an independent translation of the Arabic.
“Maha Azzam confirms that ‘anti-coup’ delegation, which includes 2 top [Muslim Brothers], had ‘fruitful’ conversations at State Dept,” Egypt expert Eric Trager tweeted.
Assam also said that the department expressed openness to engagement, according to one person who attended the event.
Trager, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), told the Washington Free Beacon that the State Department is interested in maintaining a dialogue with the Brotherhood due to its continued role in the Egyptian political scene.
“The State Department continues to speak with Muslim Brothers on the assumption that Egyptian politics are unpredictable, and the Brotherhood still has some support in Egypt,” he said. “But when pro-Brotherhood delegations then post photos of themselves making pro-Brotherhood gestures in front of the State Department logo, it creates an embarrassment for the State Department.”
When asked to comment on the meeting Tuesday evening, a State Department official said, “We meet with representatives from across the political spectrum in Egypt.”
The official declined to elaborate on who may have been hosted or on any details about the timing and substance of any talks.
Samuel Tadros, an Egypt expert and research fellow at the Hudson Institute who is familiar with the delegation, said that the visit is meant to rally support for the Muslim Brotherhood’s ongoing efforts against to oppose Sisi.
“I think the Muslim Brotherhood visit serves two goals,” Tadros said. “First, organizing the pro Muslim Brotherhood movement in the U.S. among the Egyptian and other Arab and Muslim communities.”
“Secondly, reaching out to administration and the policy community in D.C.,” Tadros said. “The delegation’s composition includes several non-official Muslim Brotherhood members to portray an image of a united Islamist and non-Islamist revolutionary camp against the regime.”
The delegation held several public events this week in Maryland and Virginia, according to invitations that were sent out.
Patrick Poole, a terrorism expert and national security reporter, said the powwow at the State Department could be a sign that the Obama administration still considers the Brotherhood politically viable, despite its ouster from power and a subsequent crackdown on its members by Egyptian authorities.
“What this shows is that the widespread rejection of the Muslim Brotherhood across the Middle East, particularly the largest protests in recorded human history in Egypt on June 30, 2013, that led to Morsi’s ouster, is not recognized by the State Department and the Obama administration,” Poole said.
“This is a direct insult to our Egyptian allies, who are in an existential struggle against the Muslim Brotherhood, all in the pursuit of the mythical ‘moderate Islamists’ who the D.C. foreign policy elite still believe will bring democracy to the Middle East,” Poole said.
This entry was posted in National Security and tagged Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood, State Department. Bookmark the permalink.
Adam Kredo Email Adam | Full Bio | RSS
Adam Kredo is senior writer for the Washington Free Beacon. Formerly an award-winning political reporter for the Washington Jewish Week, where he frequently broke national news, Kredo’s work has been featured in outlets such as the Jerusalem Post, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, and Politico, among others. He lives in Maryland with his comic books. His Twitter handle is @Kredo0. His email address is [email protected].
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and what about the GOP screw to the VETS?
ginwilly
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ChesusRice
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Your going on the list as well
do you not follow the basic house and senate bills that are coming up for vote?
the one that the GOP voted against for suicide prevention etc.
why does the GOP hate our VETS so much?..they're happy to send them to war yet don't feel the responsibility for them.
the VETS are actually part of the 47%; you know the 47% mitt said he didn't need to “worry about those people.”?
abandonconflict
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Similar to their attitude on unborn vs infants.
what is WRONG with the GOP in general?
rich white old men beyond wealthy and the poor white southerner still fighting in the 1860's..quite literally the most out of touch demographics.
