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OGEvilgenius

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http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf

According to this BLS release 80% of American familes have someone working. But don't worry, unemployment is 6%. Even though 20% of American families have no one who is working at all.

For release 10:00 a.m. (EDT) Friday, April 25, 2014
USDL-14-0658
Technical information: (202) 691-6378
[email protected]www.bls.gov/cps
Media contact: (202) 691-5902 • [email protected]
E
MPLOYMENT
C
HARACTERISTICS OF
F
AMILIES
—2013
In 2013, 9.6 percent of families included an unemployed person, down from 10.5 percent in 2012, the
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Of
the nation's 80.4 million families, 80.0 percent had at
least one employed member in 2013.
 

OGEvilgenius

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If you want numbers closer to reality, shadowstats is the place to go. Of course those numbers are unlikely to be perfect - and are in fact largely based on old government formulas which have changed with political necessity, but they are much closer to actual reality.

http://www.shadowstats.com/
 

UncleBuck

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You are incredibly stupid. You lift up one group, barely, at the expense of another.
that's not true at all.

i've already posted the graphs showing how raises in the minimum wage put upward pressure on the 10th and 25th percentile of wages. you can ignore that data at your own peril.

How's your fucking rent idiot?
:lol:



http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

to answer your question, the BLS shows that it is fairly steady, also underpacing minimum wage increases.


You cite food prices.
and you cite nothing.

Rent prices have skyrocketed since the 80's relative minimum wage.
cite it then!

(hint: you can't because the claim is demonstrably false)


You selectively take one piece of data, claim victory and do your little retarded dance about the Republican party (which I have no affiliation with or love for) or racism or whatever other ad hominem you want to throw out to distract from your incredibly stupid points of contention.

The minimum wage does not fucking matter. Americans as a whole have been continually getting poorer and poorer and that isn't going to change. Well, actually, the very top level Americans are doing great. But that's because everything your government does is for their benefit. Even the great minds at Princeton can see and acknowledge that and they're not exactly a bastion of libertarian thought.
you done with the temper tantrum, sweetheart?
 

UncleBuck

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You're aware that they simply drop people from the rolls after they can't find a job for 6 months, right? These people are not longer unemployed! Woopee!

are you aware that they do a monthly survey, a scientific poll accurate to within a few percentage points, which shows that unemployment, as in those who are actively seeking work, is at the lowest level it has been since before the crash?

seriously, don't take my word for it, go look it up.

they actually call people and ask them if they are employed or looking for work and derive an incredibly accurate number from the data they compile.

did you not learn this while you were "studying economics", which i suspect to be euphemism for some less than savory activities?

:lol:
 

UncleBuck

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http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf

According to this BLS release 80% of American familes have someone working. But don't worry, unemployment is 6%. Even though 20% of American families have no one who is working at all.
you really should ask for a refund, no offense.

if they left you with this sort of gaping misunderstanding about something so simple as how they calculate the unemployment number, then i suspect your school was not accredited, or was accredited in the same way that rend pawl is accredited as an opthamologist.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Prices in parts of the United States are severely depressed due to the fact no one has any work. In places where there is work, prices are significantly higher. In Canada, where almost 20% of the country isn't unemployed, prices have significantly outpaced minimum wage. Your chart says almost nothing by the way without more context.
 

OGEvilgenius

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are you aware that they do a monthly survey, a scientific poll accurate to within a few percentage points, which shows that unemployment, as in those who are actively seeking work, is at the lowest level it has been since before the crash?

seriously, don't take my word for it, go look it up.

they actually call people and ask them if they are employed or looking for work and derive an incredibly accurate number from the data they compile.

did you not learn this while you were "studying economics", which i suspect to be euphemism for some less than savory activities?

:lol:
Did you know if you use formulas to determine unemployment that aren't politically motivated and stupid and that the government used to use prior to the 80's market crash, that unemployment is over 20%?

Seriously, don't take my word for it. Go look it up.
 

OGEvilgenius

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you really should ask for a refund, no offense.

if they left you with this sort of gaping misunderstanding about something so simple as how they calculate the unemployment number, then i suspect your school was not accredited, or was accredited in the same way that rend pawl is accredited as an opthamologist.
I know how the unemployment number is calculated. Do you not find it odd, that 20% of American families have no one working but only 6% of the population is supposedly unemployed? Because those numbers don't really mesh.

Oh right, you think they stopped looking because they don't need to work. Why don't they need the work? Savings are not at high levels. Debt levels are high. Government assistance needs are at very high levels with record levels on food stamps (20% of American families it's estimated... which sort of lines up with the 20% of American families having no one employed at all). But those folks just don't need to work anymore after 6 months of looking for a job? Ok.
 

UncleBuck

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Did you know if you use formulas to determine unemployment that aren't politically motivated and stupid and that the government used to use prior to the 80's market crash, that unemployment is over 20%?

Seriously, don't take my word for it. Go look it up.
if unemployment is over 20%, then why do people never tell them that in their monthly survey?

:lol:

seems kind of odd, almost like a conspiracy theory to me.

are all these random households that they survey all part of one massive conspiracy?
 

UncleBuck

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I know how the unemployment number is calculated. Do you not find it odd, that 20% of American families have no one working but only 6% of the population is supposedly unemployed? Because those numbers don't really mesh.

Oh right, you think they stopped looking because they don't need to work. Why don't they need the work? Savings are not at high levels. Debt levels are high. Government assistance needs are at very high levels with record levels on food stamps (20% of American families it's estimated... which sort of lines up with the 20% of American families having no one employed at all). But those folks just don't need to work anymore after 6 months of looking for a job? Ok.
did you know that retired people exist? disabled people?

it's odd, i know.
 

UncleBuck

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Prices in parts of the United States are severely depressed due to the fact no one has any work. In places where there is work, prices are significantly higher. In Canada, where almost 20% of the country isn't unemployed, prices have significantly outpaced minimum wage. Your chart says almost nothing by the way without more context.
why do you never cite a single one of your claims and expect us to believe you based on your word, which has been shown to be massively inaccurate if not completely factually challenged?
 

OGEvilgenius

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did you know that retired people exist? disabled people?

it's odd, i know.
So you think 20% of American house holds consistent of retired folk, disabled or those unable to find jobs? And that if you're retired you need foodstamps most likely?

And the folks I know personally in the states who have spent, in some cases, a year+, looking for a job while being on welfare, do not exist?
 

OGEvilgenius

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CPS drops people from the unemployment column if they've been looking over 6 months. That's the methodology.

Since you appear to be misleading folks into thinking that somehow the CPS and individuals who participate in these monthly surveys are having an open dialogue where in order for a person unemployed and still looking for work could not possibly be counted as anything but unemployed, allow the BLS to clarify:

Survey respondents are never asked specifically if they are unemployed, nor are they given an opportunity to decide their own labor force status. Their status will be determined based on how they respond to a specific set of questions about their recent activities.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm#where

If you've been looking for 6 months and you still haven't found a job, you're not unemployed anymore, even though you actually are. Government statistics, so incredibly useful. :rolleyes:
 

Amos Otis

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A flat tax is regressive, favoring the wealthy while disproportionately impacting the working class.

Coal is dirty. The less of it being burned the better. I would however be in favor of more renewable energy and next generation nuclear power plants.

I'm not in poverty, but I came from it. I got an education so I wouldn't end up there. But any day, anything could happen to change that fact. You seem to think people pick to be poor
Many people in fact, do choose to sit on the gov't dole as opposed to earning their way. You seem to think they're all victims. The education you received is available to everyone willing to attend and apply themselves.


You really can't see facts in that tiny article? Do I need to break them down for you?
Whatever facts that may be there are negated by the fantasys that follow.

I have plenty of family and friends in Canada. It may come as a surprise to you, but people have a great deal more respect for Obama than they did Bush.
That would not surprise me. That's not what your article stated: "America is leading the world once again and respected internationally".

C'mon, stOw - you know that's a crock.
 

Amos Otis

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Nuh uh the chinese were busting his chops for chewing nicorette lol.
Word. The Chinese press has shown no respect for his leadership, or anything else. Neither has Putin - also in attendance. One hella deal Obama cut w/ the chinese on cutting pollution.
 

Bullethighway

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Bush would have taken credit all the same if he could have done it, so you are just kinda splitting hairs there. He didn't put the noose around hussein's neck but is still credited with killing him.
I think biggest difference
Bush would have taken credit all the same if he could have done it, so you are just kinda splitting hairs there. He didn't put the noose around hussein's neck but is still credited with killing him.
Bush didnt make a movie about hussein
obama did
had a movie producer sitting in on top secret meetings
to me that well blows my mind

Why

I believe our debt when bush left was. 8 trillion
i believe were close to 18 trillion
I have a serious issue with that


I wont be here to pay that back
But my kid will


But anyhow guess were. goin a little to political
im worried for the usa
 

Amos Otis

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Last I checked Obama is commander in cheif so there's that
Yeah. Got any good news?


A living wage is what should be implemented. No full time worker should be forced into poverty and shoved on to the government dole to make ends meet.
How 'bout the full-timer worker improve himself and get a better paying job??? Good grief, man, is there no thought given to one's responsibility to self-reliance?

...no one wants to be caught with their pants down in a country that's becoming increasingly difficult to do business in and whose fundamental economic problems are incredibly bad. Most jobs created are garbage and the UE numbers are junk anyway as they take people off the rolls after 6 mos to massage the statistics. Government statistics = government lies generally speaking. Actual UE rate is closer to 20%.

There are shanty towns all over the United States now. This wasn't so common not that long ago.

The amount of pain not that far down the road is quite scary to see. Amos is very smart for living in the middle of nowhere and attempting as much self sufficiency as he can IMO. I'm doing the exact same thing.
WORD. :clap:
 
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