Best 'stand alone' bloom boosters

Sativied

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I have no complaints... again, wishful thinking assumptions. Most of the complaints come from people who think plants are geese and will fatten up if you feed them more and more, especially with bloom products and ingredients plants don't use but create.

Their base nutes aren't necessarily "snake oils", just overpriced, which kind of does make them snake oils. As a matter of fact, I use a combination of H&G and GHE (base nutes...) because they aren't overpriced for me (I pay for the convenience of having someone mix and bottle the nutes). I've used nearly their entirely line in the past, I also used canna, plagron, ghe, organic soil, cheap grocery store house plant soil... Again, you should read up on how plants actually function, what their role on the planet is, what professional outside the cannabis industry use and don't use to get the highest yields. It's the inflated price caused by mj being illegal in most places that makes people think they will earn back that $50 extra in nutes in a single run, while in fact it more often has the opposite effect.

Also plants are like the human body.. Have u ever not eaten and just drank water for a few days what does your body do? ...
Source of analogy: http://www.advancednutrients.com/carbs/

Which uses the same pseudo-research as the makes of superthrive... the main example is about tissue culture, a situation in which the plant doesn't create their on carbon because they don't photosynthesize yet and hence sugars have to be added...

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The beauty of complete nutrient line ups like advanced canna and H&G is you don't need to research plant functioning and study botany they are worth every penny all u need to do is ph balance and make some small adjustments as plants need it.. Lil more base here lil less there lil more boost here pk there and walls they r worth every penny.. Start to finish no bs they give u a feed schedule u run it and u get 2 lbs a light no problems.ls what's their to study lol
 

TheChemist77

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i have done comparisons using gh 3 part, gh nova, gh maxi, advanced nutrients, fox farm, and many more in the 10+ years ive been growing, ive found the gh maxi although it is cheap to provide everything my plants need in grow and bloom And i got better yields with the maxi bloom over advanced, BC, plantlife, and many others.. just because its a cheap 1 part nutrient does not mean its subpar..i also recieved just as good yields with gh 3 part and the nova but if the cheaper stuff gives the same results ive stuck with it... i no longer do comparisons as over the years it was a waste of alot of money trying to find better nutrients than gh and believe me i was surprised when maxi gave better results than the more expensive nutrients...
 
My boy runs fox farm tiger bloom - cha Ching - open sesame - hygrozyme - bloombastic in promix with no co2 and gets over 2 usually 2 1/4 per light every time.. His shit comes out top dog super stinky and frosty as hell... The cuts we running right now love organic nutrients that's why the bio canna does so well.. Every variety is diff tried some g13 hazes and some ak cross with same nutrients and didn't do as well.. Plants are weird like that..Fox farm are premium nutes got nuttin bad say about them and they r cheap.. But quality from fox farm to gh is way better than gh I've never got gh to compare to any of aforementioned nutrient lines not even close.. Gh always produces darker buds never really have that funk or taste I get from bio canna or advanced or anything my boy does from fox farm.. Fuck his shit comes out better than mine sometimes and he usually yields more too.. Pisses me off cuz I gave me that recipe lol.. I'm not saying GH doesn't work I'm saying that you're not gonna get massive yields and superb quality from that lineup I alone i just isn't in the makeup of that product they lack key elements that make premium flowers.. Never tried maxi or b.c.-
 
Best yield I ever got was from advanced best overall product I ever got is from canna and best quality without yield I get is from running botanicare products with humboldts additives but diminished yield usually like 10-15%? less which on 6 lights your talking about almost over a lb. to lb and a half per run.. That's why I only run that on stuff I'm doing for personal use
 

Aeroknow

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Super thrive is a scam? Hahaha okay buddy... So you are trying to tell me that when you use super thrive during transplanting it doesn't help reduce stress and facilitate vitamins and micro nutrients that are beneficial to your plants..


The problem with people like you is that you take everything literally...

You believe that since something says bloom enhancer or pk booster that you add those supplements to your grows and you grow will double its yield and you're gonna get 3 lbs of a 1000w light... It don't work like that like I stated those enhancers usually will help you get slight increases roughly 10% similar to running vo2 properly ... If you use the products correctly it will increase your yields from those who don't run them it's that simple..

So you're telling me all u give ur plants is the 3 part agH with no additives and u get a gram per watt or roughly 1.5 lbs on a 600w and 2 lbs on a 1000w? You're full of crap.. There's not way

While on other hand if you run advanced or canna full lineup you will get those results it's that simple depending on your variety and strain is capable of yielding numbers of that nature some plants just can't I don't care what you use.. Primarily cuts of the new Girl Scouts and og strains you can't get those numbers no matter what you give it... You need to know what you're running and what they require..

I think your full of fluff and like to believe non sense over tried and true facts
Listen guy:
I was pulling MORE than 2lbs a light, with JUST the floraseries 20 yrs ago. Yeah, it was with strains like bigbud. But 2+ all day long guy. These bullshit bloom boosters that are out today, did not exist back then.

You spoke of the wifi. The wifi(if you have a good pheno, like I do)puts out.
I don't get 2 everytime. I usually yeild 1 and 3/4 lb when growing trees(not to bad for the fire it is).
When I go 16 - 1gallon pots of coco, top fed via drip stakes......look out! 2lbs!(1000w)
I can't run all my lights with 16 plants, it's just to many plants;-) but, I still run a tray or two like that.
Currently in coco, with the heads modified lucas only! Yeah, only the flora series:-)

Btw, kind of embarrassing:
I grew for a long time with just the 3part, Overgrow.com came online , and I was convinced that I needed all these new snake oils. I fucked up, and stopped experimenting/running side-by-sides. And bought into all the marketing hype. I still feel like a fucking sucker for all the money I wasted. I should have known better.
I'm in NorCal Btw. We've been growing indoor and out for a very long time here. I'll say it sgain: I know lots of bigtime growers who still use the floraseries. Believe it! Good day
 
Big buds strains produce up to 3 lbs per light per 1k in Canada hence big bud but they suck.... I've gotten 2.5 a light w widow x bb.. Dudes r missing my point yes gh 3 part works but the quality sucks and yields on most strains is garbage unless you are using other additives.. Bloom boosters are primarily made of molasses and yucca extract people think it's some crazy combination of wild shit they are carb based products that bulk and swell buds I don't get what the augment is here.. Yes flora series is popular amongst big hydroponic growers because it's dirt cheap and it works but for premium quality pop and yields it's not good.. Guys using that shit are doing big industrial grows buying 10 gallon drums of it for dirt cheap just to run 50 light set ups and produce pot.. Doesn't mean it's good or high quality it just works.. Like WTD don't anyone understand all nutrients work! They are nutrients you pay for what you get when it comes to BOTH yield and quality geez man
 
Fuckin miracle grow works peters works anything works fish poop bat shit they all do same but quality and yield are affected by subpar nutrients it's that dimple and agH is a subpar nutrient what the deal
 

Aeroknow

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Big buds strains produce up to 3 lbs per light per 1k in Canada hence big bud but they suck.... I've gotten 2.5 a light w widow x bb.. Dudes r missing my point yes gh 3 part works but the quality sucks and yields on most strains is garbage unless you are using other additives.. Bloom boosters are primarily made of molasses and yucca extract people think it's some crazy combination of wild shit they are carb based products that bulk and swell buds I don't get what the augment is here.. Yes flora series is popular amongst big hydroponic growers because it's dirt cheap and it works but for premium quality pop and yields it's not good.. Guys using that shit are doing big industrial grows buying 10 gallon drums of it for dirt cheap just to run 50 light set ups and produce pot.. Doesn't mean it's good or high quality it just works.. Like WTD don't anyone understand all nutrients work! They are nutrients you pay for what you get when it comes to BOTH yield and quality geez man
Have you tried cns-17? I did for bout 2 yrs, before going back to the flora series. It's good too. Same quality in the end, if you know what your doing. I do have friends who still rock it. I have friends who use h&g. Friends who use canna. We are all experienced growers. And it's not like one of us busts out a nug, and blows the others away. Obviously, that would change my mind:bigjoint:
 
I just don't get how u guys can say these big companies are all crap and produce snake oil.. They spend multimillion of dollars per year on research and development to provide best quality nutes on market then people use me don't know what they r doing and then shit on the company bcuz when they said 30% more yield and they got the same amount with cheaper stuff it's not their faults.. Well yes it is.. I know I'm not spending 20 million per year on r&d and marketing for a product that doesn't work it's not crazy to think its a lot of new growers who fuck up reputations for companies all industry top dogs and massive growers use 1'of the 3 products I listed..NGO to any dispensary in Colorado or Cali and see what they r feeding I guarantee u it ain't miracle grow or peters or gh... And if they were so good and so cheap why wouldn't they all they wanna do is maximize profits right? Bottom line is for few hundred maybe a thousand dollars more these other companies are better that simple
 
Nah I run the pure blend series I have been itching to try the kind series but haven't pulled trigger yet.. I've slowly been working my way onto pure organic/veganic grows just trying to grow some of the funkiest shit on the planet..

For my big grows I stay w adv or canna bcuz I want yield and good quality
 
I have been highly surprised at flower quality by fox farm w promix not gonna lie I'm tellin you my boys we all got same cuts we been doin for a minute most of us use canna some advanced but one r boys still on the fox and his shit comes out the darkest and beats r numbers sometimes.. Still blows my mind idk why I haven't switched but I'm kind stubborn like that lol
 

a mongo frog

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Haha people can say its snake oil all they want I get 2 a light per 1000w consistently with my chem and white fire og's.. I run bloom enhancers and pk boosters never got 2 a light before I switched to these products I would consistently get 1.5 around there now I'm trying to get over 2 just switched up to aurora soul synthetics line up and I love it.. Has everything you need products are f*cking amazing..mill post some pics and a video when I'm done and prove it for you
how long you guys vegging to get 2 per 1k lamp on these ogs? seed stalk or clone only ogs?
 

Aeroknow

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how long you guys vegging to get 2 per 1k lamp on these ogs? seed stalk or clone only ogs?
The two biggest yielding OG type strains i have right now are:
One of my wifi cuts(my buddy started shit loads of packs of seeds to find this keeper.
Deadhead OG from harborside oakland(if you can believe it:-D

If i'm growing trees from OG's, i have usually pinched tops at least 3 times in veg, and flowered when about 14-16 inches tall. And then supercroped the first couple weeks of flower(during stretch)for canopy control.
When i do 16 per light, they are topped once, and vegged to about 10-11 inches.
It's all about the strain brotha.
Most og's i've grown(and i've grown a bunch), i'm just trying to get 1.5lbs. It sucks:-(
I honestly can't remember ever hitting the 2lb mark from any purple though. Purple nepal was close.
 
I'm not running og's I won't run them bcuz you can't yield 2 per light w them at least I've never seen anyone hit 2.. I'm running the original chem and mass super skunk.. 2 and 2+ is easily attainable on a dialed in grow on these cuts.. 1.5 a light on og's is good that's the strain for you also why they go for top dollar.. I got a white fire og cross that you can get close to 2 but that's not a straight og.. If you back cross og with a high yielding strain you can develop cuts that will produce larger yields but then your moving away from that lineage you want.. My boys working on a pheno with DNA seeds right now to do a blueberry chem I got a few samples about 2 weeks ago same dude running the fox farm and my god this shit was blazin
 
Purps are dope but I've always found them to be highly susceptible to PM.. Living in such a humid area of the country i stay away from them, they are so easy to get in bulk anyways no need to run them myself.. I like running premium strains no one else got keep price up and the demand high ;)
 
I veg entire time I'm in bloom.. Constant rotation flowing.. Usually about 8-9 weeks depending if I'm on top of my shit.. This last time we just started running new strains from seed and tripling plant count just get some shit going ran a 4 week veg flipped them actually liked that a lot better running only 3 gallon containers.. Sometime running huge plants is a pain in the ass might keep this going see how yields are
 
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