2nd attemp at a 1st grow!! All advice welcome

tokingtiger

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Stonerinchina said:
So 3 gallon pots to start from scratch and finish then?
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yes, the less you transplant, the better. that 200w led? is it 200w listed or actual draw? because actual draw is closer to 100w and I don't see you getting anything from 100w. I also grow with LED and had to cut my plants in half for a better quality yield and higher grade of medicine. I use a 4ft x 8ft tent and use 4x4 now.. the other side of tent I use to trim, this has kept me under the radar as my niegbhors always knew when I trimmed. now they don't as im inside the tent and the tent has a tall boy carbon filter inside and one outside on the other end of the flexible ducting.
 
butterbudface

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I rate a little more than 3 weeks dude, how long since the flip? How long does the seed guys, you bought the seeds from say they will flower for?
 
Stonerinchina

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Barneys Royal Dwarf , they said 8 to 9 weeks from seed , but i think i planted her around 18th - 20 Aug
I didnt change nutes untill about 2nd week of October until I could see some bud action and she wasn't growing so fast.
Dunno if that was right or not, im in no hurry really, I am hoping the buds fatten out as they still look juvenile but i really dont have a clue lol
The pics make the top bud bigger than she really is
 
Smoken-n-Token

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If you don't mind I'd like to chime in on your first grow. A bit off subject but hopefully Informative :)

My first grow was a huge success, I was considering on starting in soil but the nature of my personality wanted to go big the first time. My first grow was hydroponics.

I started out doing deep water culture . But as I didn't have any good way of controlling the reservoir temperature I started to get root rot. So I did some research. And found out that aeroponics was near foolproof in this approach as root rot is caused by lack of oxygen to the roots. Or more specifically, a lack of oxygen in the reservoir as water doesn't hold oxygen very well at higher temperatures. In aeroponics, the roots are suspended in air which is more effective way to delivering oxygen to the roots. Ergo more oxygen to the roots larger your root system and there for larger plant.

So please feel free to check out my video, I demonstrate how large my one plant got in an aeroponic system. And mind you this is my first grow.


Got nearly 6Oz from that plant :)

The reason I'm posting this and maybe a bit off subject is to illustrate that hydroponics can be quite forgiving and simple . And they can be done in a very small space . If you have 8 feet or more height in your room You should be able to accomplish this.

In hydroponics there's a saying ~When in doubt dump it out. This is referring to the reservoir. As the trouble people get in when trying to get to hydroponics is that they're always trying to adjust there water Diagnose there plant problems and that's where the problems in getting into hydroponics come from.

I'm starting a closet grow myself . I plan on doing SOG with aeroponics period as this is the best for small areas. At least in my opinion . So give it some thought and I'll show you might grow as it goes along but I'm going to start a grow journal in the grow journal area :)

P.S. Your plant is looking fabulous!
 
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Kush Knight

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Kush Knight said:
Look at pics of over watered leaves. I'm sure you'll see. Its not that noticeable, because its coco perlite.
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Smoken-n-Token said:
P.S. Your plant is looking fabulous!
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They do look great, just wrinkles and other things in the leaf show me a bit of peroxide with the water would help, but can get costly in the long run. just higher dissolved oxygen. I didn't read the setup, so i cant say best way to fix this avoiding peroxide. But i became really good at identifying over watering by diagnosing 100's of my seedlings for 2.5 weeks. hopefully it solves itself without having to adjust watering schedule.
 
Smoken-n-Token

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I think I understand the problem. But I mind you I'm a hydroponic grower and not a soil grower. But the theory is still the same. From reading your previous post it seems like you had a problem over watering. By over watering, your roots are not going to stretch out and search for more water. You may have a poorly developed root system that may have trouble absorbing nutrients.

I'm just going from memory here but when I was researching the soil grow it was pointed out that lightly watering your plants in the vegetative stage will cause your roots to grow larger and wider in an attempt to search for water. And I also noticed another potential problem. The pot that your growing and seems to be a bit small . I can't remember what its called but it's called something like root lock are crowded roots or something like that. And that could affect its ability to absorb oxygen but like I said I'm hydroponics grower hopefully this will give you a direction or an idea.

But if I am correct in what the problem is, there's not too much you can do about it now that you're in the flowering stage As your plant is no longer growing and developing its now dying and giving out THC in buds. Not dying as in you're doing something wrong just that it's in its final stages of life.

Hope this helps :)
 
Stonerinchina

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cheers guys i'm on it , I must admit i have burnt the poor thing with my poorly dropped cfls ;(, and yes the pot is a little small but i fecked up so many seedlings before I wanted to keep it so simple even i couldnt kill it !!! I also found using a tent is a pain in the ass for dropping CFls and moving the plants about as its hard to get DIY stuff in my neck of the woods!
 
Kush Knight

Kush Knight

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Smoken-n-Token said:
I think I understand the problem. But I mind you I'm a hydroponic grower and not a soil grower. But the theory is still the same. From reading your previous post it seems like you had a problem over watering. By over watering, your roots are not going to stretch out and search for more water. You may have a poorly developed root system that may have trouble absorbing nutrients.

I'm just going from memory here but when I was researching the soil grow it was pointed out that lightly watering your plants in the vegetative stage will cause your roots to grow larger and wider in an attempt to search for water. And I also noticed another potential problem. The pot that your growing and seems to be a bit small . I can't remember what its called but it's called something like root lock are crowded roots or something like that. And that could affect its ability to absorb oxygen but like I said I'm hydroponics grower hopefully this will give you a direction or an idea.

But if I am correct in what the problem is, there's not too much you can do about it now that you're in the flowering stage As your plant is no longer growing and developing its now dying and giving out THC in buds. Not dying as in you're doing something wrong just that it's in its final stages of life.

Hope this helps :)
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Mine are fine. That was 200 bagseed in the middle of winter, in mg moisture control. I know whats up. lol Thanks anyways. Trust me, even for good hydro, thats more water than necessary (or rather less oxygen). Chunky, wrinkly leaves are bad. Wait, were you talking to me??.. Nvmnd
 
Kush Knight

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Stonerinchina said:
cheers guys i'm on it , I must admit i have burnt the poor thing with my poorly dropped cfls ;(, and yes the pot is a little small but i fecked up so many seedlings before I wanted to keep it so simple even i couldnt kill it !!! I also found using a tent is a pain in the ass for dropping CFls and moving the plants about as its hard to get DIY stuff in my neck of the woods!
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Its not even close to dead. just temporarily slowed.
 
Kush Knight

Kush Knight

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Smoken-n-Token said:
I think I understand the problem. But I mind you I'm a hydroponic grower and not a soil grower. But the theory is still the same. From reading your previous post it seems like you had a problem over watering. By over watering, your roots are not going to stretch out and search for more water. You may have a poorly developed root system that may have trouble absorbing nutrients.

I'm just going from memory here but when I was researching the soil grow it was pointed out that lightly watering your plants in the vegetative stage will cause your roots to grow larger and wider in an attempt to search for water. And I also noticed another potential problem. The pot that your growing and seems to be a bit small . I can't remember what its called but it's called something like root lock are crowded roots or something like that. And that could affect its ability to absorb oxygen but like I said I'm hydroponics grower hopefully this will give you a direction or an idea.

But if I am correct in what the problem is, there's not too much you can do about it now that you're in the flowering stage As your plant is no longer growing and developing its now dying and giving out THC in buds. Not dying as in you're doing something wrong just that it's in its final stages of life.

Hope this helps :)
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anyways coco and perlite, is hydro.
 
Stonerinchina

Stonerinchina

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Smoken-n-Token said:
If you don't mind I'd like to chime in on your first grow. A bit off subject but hopefully Informative :)

My first grow was a huge success, I was considering on starting in soil but the nature of my personality wanted to go big the first time. My first grow was hydroponics.

I started out doing deep water culture . But as I didn't have any good way of controlling the reservoir temperature I started to get root rot. So I did some research. And found out that aeroponics was near foolproof in this approach as root rot is caused by lack of oxygen to the roots. Or more specifically, a lack of oxygen in the reservoir as water doesn't hold oxygen very well at higher temperatures. In aeroponics, the roots are suspended in air which is more effective way to delivering oxygen to the roots. Ergo more oxygen to the roots larger your root system and there for larger plant.

So please feel free to check out my video, I demonstrate how large my one plant got in an aeroponic system. And mind you this is my first grow.


Got nearly 6Oz from that plant :)

The reason I'm posting this and maybe a bit off subject is to illustrate that hydroponics can be quite forgiving and simple . And they can be done in a very small space . If you have 8 feet or more height in your room You should be able to accomplish this.

In hydroponics there's a saying ~When in doubt dump it out. This is referring to the reservoir. As the trouble people get in when trying to get to hydroponics is that they're always trying to adjust there water Diagnose there plant problems and that's where the problems in getting into hydroponics come from.

I'm starting a closet grow myself . I plan on doing SOG with aeroponics period as this is the best for small areas. At least in my opinion . So give it some thought and I'll show you might grow as it goes along but I'm going to start a grow journal in the grow journal area :)

P.S. Your plant is looking fabulous!
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Well that first grow puts mine to shame !! well done mate !
 
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