Marshydro Led grow...

[Jason9922]

I was told that if you switch lights your supposed to ease them in by running 8 hours led 3 days next 6 days move to 12 hours next 6 days 18 hours. Just what I was told thought maybe info would help. I'm sure if you ease them in they will be ok.

 

[Jason9922]

isn't 1 inch a day a lot of stretch that you most growers try to avoid in veg?

when you say not growing are they not growing new leaves/nodes? or are you just talking height gain?

I have the 700w mars 2 and it is doing wonders. I have the flowering spectrum and only use it for flowering, so not sure about how it vegs though.

What are you using for veg? just wondering

 

[WazzaX]

I've now had them under my marshydro 900w led for 4 days and they haven't grown one bit :-/ either I've got something very wrong or the led is shite!

I don't think its the light mate

day 46....

 

[Spudhead69]

I don't think its the light mate

day 46....

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I've panicked and replaced my led with my 400w hps just to see what happens any kind of growth and I'll know the led is not working as it should. I'll let u lot know in a couple of days

 

[sadface]

What are you using for veg? just wondering

I have use a combo of a 180 watt mars I and a diy LED from a broken down ipower LED device. I run a veg and flower station for perpetual grows which is why I got the flowering spectrum Mars 2. Funnily enough the color ratio for their flower spectrum matchs Area 51s. If I win the lottery I will do a buy a A51 light and do a side by side grow for comparisons

 

[sadface]

I've panicked and replaced my led with my 400w hps just to see what happens any kind of growth and I'll know the led is not working as it should. I'll let u lot know in a couple of days

hps? or MH? think you want MH for veg as it has more blue so will reduce stretch. You got lots of lights i'm jealous Is there a reason you moved away from CID (HPS/MH) lighting? The only reason I use LED is heat management, i would need to get a portable AC unit if I used CID.

 

[Spudhead69]

hps? or MH? think you want MH for veg as it has more blue so will reduce stretch. You got lots of lights i'm jealous Is there a reason you moved away from CID (HPS/MH) lighting? The only reason I use LED is heat management, i would need to get a portable AC unit if I used CID.

It's a duel spectrum hps mate...with just 7 hours of my old duel spectrum hps and I've seen growth!!! I'm not being funny but I'm not new to growing how wrong can I of had the led set up to have no growth in 4 days?? Think the led was a fake and I'm gonna sell it ASAP

 

[MAJOR-RED-EYE]

Finally got around to taking some pics I'm not having the best of days though I had repairmen in all day working in my house so I had to turn the light off for a good few hours As soon as they left I thought id make advantage of all the chaos and repot them while they where already stressed so it saves me pissing off the lil lady's twice in one week hopefully they will perk back up in a day or two (fingers crossed) as soon as they do I'll upload some better ones
Ps. Ignore The one in the round pot and the tiny seedling on the far right I'm giving those to a friend

 

[MAJOR-RED-EYE]

It's only been half a day cycle for the girls and they are recovering beautifully I'm not sure if you have noticed already @WazzaX and @oilmaker68 but the one in the round pot is a weird Tri-leaf mutation I can barely see the stem on the Alaskan ice cross there's so much new foliage starting to grow

 

[Jason9922]

It's a duel spectrum hps mate...with just 7 hours of my old duel spectrum hps and I've seen growth!!! I'm not being funny but I'm not new to growing how wrong can I of had the led set up to have no growth in 4 days?? Think the led was a fake and I'm gonna sell it ASAP

Did you buy a real mars led light from their site? Or did you buy it used? Send me the link to where you bought it from, I might be interested in it. Obviously if you know what your doing with an MH light, you shouldn't of had a problem unless the light you bought is so much weaker than one needed? A 150 seems like it would be enough for 2 small plants few feet tall in a cabinet, not a closet. If you have a 400 watt MH light, that's about half of 1 of my 1 k watt hps / mh lights and 400 watts would be SUPER bright and way more than enough lumens for a cabinet small closet. Could it be that the lumens difference was so massive your already used to a mh light plants were stunted when you switched? I've had that happen with a mother plant and it wasn't a change of kind of light, it was a change from having it under a 1 k watt hps / mhs to a 250 watt mhs in a smaller 3 x 3 x 7 ft tall spot I made just for this mother. It didn't grow at all for ten days after the switch and all the OG's I asked about it said it was stunted. Just sharing a thought. But could someone have slapped a mars label on a used 3-5 yr old led where all the diodes are working at 50% strength from when it was new? Very possible.

 

[Jason9922]

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It's only been half a day cycle for the girls and they are recovering beautifully I'm not sure if you have noticed already @WazzaX and @oilmaker68 but the one in the round pot is a weird Tri-leaf mutation I can barely see the stem on the Alaskan ice cross there's so much new foliage starting to grow

I would seriously consider making the mutant into a mother plant and if not, when that thing buds, add any other lights you have or can find because that freak is going to be a fat girl when it's harvest time. Best plants I've ever seen had that look to them where you couldn't see the stem, until I started topping them at every new node until there were 30 colas! Plus its that weird strain, def a mommy there!

 

[Jason9922]

It's only been half a day cycle for the girls and they are recovering beautifully I'm not sure if you have noticed already @WazzaX and @oilmaker68 but the one in the round pot is a weird Tri-leaf mutation I can barely see the stem on the Alaskan ice cross there's so much new foliage starting to grow [/QUOTE]

Oh and the repairman thing, I got these two outdoor plants 3 already pulled sisters in a hidden room hanging right now, and my water heater, which is in the wall of my extra bedroom closet, which yes happens to be where my 12 5 gallon bucket DWC setup is!! I've spent the last 3 days w no hot water and moving everything so I can bring in a new tank and have it checked by a plumber!! Everytime I walk by the spot where the ones are drying I can smell them!! So I feel your pain!!! Going to get a quality tankless water heater so this never happens again! The only good part is now I'll be able to run a separate Y fitting off the hot and cold to a single on / off valve and have a water line in that room to fill buckets instead of carrying them and filling them in the tub!!

Lady number #3 outdoor super cropped didn't get the canopy to straight on this ugly chick! But I'll treat bher good! LOL This is my MUTANT!


Lady number 4 AKA the MUTANTS prettier sister number 5. LOL



close up pic with sharpness at 100%! I love how that shows every sparkle!


Trikes pic with new $23 USB 40 ft wire plugs right into laptop a magnify's up to 800X endo microscope

 

[tokingtiger]

I just got a new 5w diode light @ 400w.. ( probably 275w actual draw). I bought a lot of lights from HTG and then found their china manufacturer that they where drop shipping from, ( not positive but exact same item except for sticker and half the price). well it had the same problems also. half the bulbs would go out.. I use these 240w lights, ( now 120w) hanging sideways to light the lower parts of the plant and instead of lolly-popping the hell out of the plant just trim the bottom enough to let light in. I turned on a 100w cfl as its getting colder now and forgot how much more heat these add. I could never have a HPS light as the added heat and electricity demands to cool the extra heat would be too much for an apartment grow. leaving a window more than cracked would draw too much attention. I use this new 400w 5w diode along with 2 x 240w plus 2x120w (sides) and the 100w t5 (side) for 4 plants in a 4ft x 4 ft grow area. 1000w led actually draws about 600w but led is more precise in its delivery of light the plant can use. The new 5w diode light even has a few green lights and I notice the bleaching of my leaves has stopped. here is where I got the newest led: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-400w-mars-2-led-grow-light-strip-for-medical-plants-greenhouse-and-indoor-plants/1816886365.html This is NOT the place I bought the problem lights...

 

[Jason9922]

Sounds like a sweet set up.

 

[oilmaker68]

End of week 6...starting to fatten up some and I think I have a minimum 3 weeks to go... ive decided im going to test flush vs no flush as I have 2 plants the same breed in separate tubs so when its time ill flush one and not the other

p.s. i am still totally happy with Marshydro led

couple of pics...

@WazzaX , they look phenomenal mate, I'm defo scrogging next time.

 

[oilmaker68]

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It's only been half a day cycle for the girls and they are recovering beautifully I'm not sure if you have noticed already @WazzaX and @oilmaker68 but the one in the round pot is a weird Tri-leaf mutation I can barely see the stem on the Alaskan ice cross there's so much new foliage starting to grow

They will be fine mate, they look nice and healthy so they will recover, i have no doubt.

 

[oilmaker68]

It's only been half a day cycle for the girls and they are recovering beautifully I'm not sure if you have noticed already @WazzaX and @oilmaker68 but the one in the round pot is a weird Tri-leaf mutation I can barely see the stem on the Alaskan ice cross there's so much new foliage starting to grow

Oh and the repairman thing, I got these two outdoor plants 3 already pulled sisters in a hidden room hanging right now, and my water heater, which is in the wall of my extra bedroom closet, which yes happens to be where my 12 5 gallon bucket DWC setup is!! I've spent the last 3 days w no hot water and moving everything so I can bring in a new tank and have it checked by a plumber!! Everytime I walk by the spot where the ones are drying I can smell them!! So I feel your pain!!! Going to get a quality tankless water heater so this never happens again! The only good part is now I'll be able to run a separate Y fitting off the hot and cold to a single on / off valve and have a water line in that room to fill buckets instead of carrying them and filling them in the tub!!

Lady number #3 outdoor super cropped didn't get the canopy to straight on this ugly chick! But I'll treat bher good! LOL This is my MUTANT!
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Lady number 4 AKA the MUTANTS prettier sister number 5. LOL

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close up pic with sharpness at 100%! I love how that shows every sparkle!
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Trikes pic with new $23 USB 40 ft wire plugs right into laptop a magnify's up to 800X endo microscope

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I really like your grow mate, what kit did you use to take those pics ? can you post a link?

 

[oilmaker68]

The Anti Chinese LED people make me laugh, since all the 'made in america' stuff they love so much is almost always made of chinese components.. Living in the days of when the english speaking world was filled with skilled craftsmen and not liberal arts majors.. Just what is it about asian people that makes them supposedly less capable of making lights? and what makes modern american laborers better at it? Nothing. The first world is no longer industrious. or skilled. Or even competent half the time..

Anyways, I'm anxious about how these yields will be. I'm about to buy a secondary light, but waiting to see how you guys crop out. If I'm impressed, I will buy a mars hydro LED. If not, I'll have to get another HPS kit and wait for LED technology to evolve another generation or two. There's no doubt in my mind they will eventually outyield conventional HID bulbs.

Awesome growing here from what i've seen everyone.

Only thing i have to add is I don't see anyone supplementing with silica.. The plants silica intake is somehow affected by the spectrum/intensity of LEDs similar to how it affects cal/mag from what I've read. It's possible that adding silica would have even helped to correct some of the cal/mag anomalies.

Most of the High yielding LED users I subscribe to swear by supplementing extra silica.

Since I haven't grown LED myself, that info is NOT based on my personal experience, but something to consider for sure!

Cheers guys. Happy cropping

Hi, silica isnt something i have used to be honest but i havent had any calmag issues under the Mars, i have had potassium issues though so if that will help with that in future i will look into it. yeild is something im looking forward to also. i drooped a bollock with my grow, i have 3 different strains in my room and 3 have stretched way more than the others which means that the light has been more than the 2ft recommended height for the most part of flowering, this has affected the yield of the other plants and it has diminished it. the three tallest plant however look and smell remarkable. sticky as fook and very dense.

 

[oilmaker68]

Hey @oilmaker68 , or anyone else who could help, I have 4 of these same 600w led Marshydro, I'm planning on doing a 5 gal dwc grow, 1 plant per 5 gal square bucket approx. 10in x 10in ea bucket. how many plants would u recommend putting under these bad boys? I was thinking a 6ft x 6ft or a 7ft x 7ft area with 9 - 12 buckets, for flowering stage. What's your opinion? How many would you put under 4 of these lights and how far apart do u recommend? I just wanna make sure each plant has plenty of space with plenty of watt going to each plant. I would even do less plants if u recommended. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Hi mate

The footprint is 1m2 so if you work on 4 per m2 MAX that should be good

add pics when youre up and running

 

[oilmaker68]

Ok, so my 5 auto pounders took 5 days to grow 4 inches under my cfl light. I've now had them under my marshydro 900w led for 4 days and they haven't grown one bit :-/ either I've got something very wrong or the led is shite! I've watered them once with ph 6.2 just water! I've got a good airflow loads of space ..temp is between 24-26 humidity at 50! I hope it's not the light but everything is pointing to I've brought a dud led light :-/ I'm gonna give it 2 or 3 more days before I truly panic and switch back to my 600w I'll update soon

Give your girls time to adjust, if you live in a cold climate and vacation in the Caribbean you are gonna be shocked by the change also you may find they were growing a larger root ball to cope with the higher feeding demands of a more penetrative light.