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brokebudz3

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I'm having some issues with one of my plants. It seems to be wilting and has some discoloring/ not growing much. I thought maybe I could have shocked it transplanting but I didn't feed for a week. Not much changed so, I though it might be a Nitrogen deficiency so I fed it nutrients we will see how that works tomorrow. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm running a 150 watt HPS and 150 watts of CFL average temp. 83 Degrees F. and 45 % humidity

The first two pictures are my plant that I think is pretty Healthy and the second two are what I need help with.
 

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oldman60

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What did you feed it and how much?
What strain?
What is your ph?
What soil did you use?
Don't panic.
 
mr.schroederific

mr.schroederific

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Just a wild speculation being that I don't know all the details but I would say that the lack of drainage coupled with your watering habits is why it looks like it does.
 
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mr.schroederific

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And just a heads up, the first thing a plant, any plant does when transplanted is expend its root system to the container. So when you put a small root ball in a large container, the plant has to focus on roots. Long story short, you will lose a couple weeks while your root ball expends

Read twice as much as you ask.

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Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

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its the rootballs job to expand when released from a cramped situation get her in a bigger pot but listen to mr shreo ts very easy to overdo everything when working with such a small space....
 
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brokebudz3

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First off, thanks for all the feed back. @oldman60 i definitely over water. I planted into half jiffy (natural and organic seed starting) half organic choice miracle grow potting mix ( tierra para macetas ) i fed them bio thrive grow 4 - 3 -3 every 3 days at 1/4 what the bottle says strength... honestly pretty disappointed I thought I'd do better. Seed strain I'm unfamiliar with just bag seeds but it is good bud.
 
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brokebudz3 said:
First off, thanks for all the feed back. @oldman60 i definitely over water. I planted into half jiffy (natural and organic seed starting) half organic choice miracle grow potting mix ( tierra para macetas ) i fed them bio thrive grow 4 - 3 -3 every 3 days at 1/4 what the bottle says strength... honestly pretty disappointed I thought I'd do better. Seed strain I'm unfamiliar with just bag seeds but it is good bud.
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Less is more with feedings during this young stage of growth. I never heard of that soil, well miracle grow always makes me a bit nervous. but im sure there are plenty of NPK in your soil already. only thing they mght need is calmg if your water is filtered. then yes only smaller transplant pot size incraments and less feedings/ water. also in m expeirence if you dont start with prime genetics you wont get prime results. If nothing else get some good genetics from a good source. good luck!
 
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brokebudz3 said:
First off, thanks for all the feed back. @oldman60 i definitely over water. I planted into half jiffy (natural and organic seed starting) half organic choice miracle grow potting mix ( tierra para macetas ) i fed them bio thrive grow 4 - 3 -3 every 3 days at 1/4 what the bottle says strength... honestly pretty disappointed I thought I'd do better. Seed strain I'm unfamiliar with just bag seeds but it is good bud.
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Just plain water for at least 3 weeks, DON'T over water.
Water every other to every third day, what you have is called "nute burn"
too much food and too much water, but it can recover just be patient.
 
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brokebudz3

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Hey,
Just wanted to give a small update to make sure I'm headed in the right direction. I've listened to what you guy's told me and have seen some progression. This is about a month into Veg. Feeding just water every other to every third day.

20141007_123039.jpg 20141007_123028.jpg 20141007_123111.jpg This is the healthy plant from the first post. ( would it be okay to trim the first leaves (yellowing) or is that another issue? Also, When should I start topping?

20141007_123303.jpg 20141007_123310.jpg This was the plant with nute burn.



Thanks again!!
 

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oldman60

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Now that's a healthy looking plant. Don't worry about the leaves that were damaged
they will die and drop or you can cut them off.
Good save and you have your first problem under your belt.
Keep it green and growing.:weed:
 
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Yea i just went through the fire with my new girl and she did not appreciate it neither. I had her in the MGMC from seed and she was doing really good so i thought then out of the blue the leaves just began to not so much as crumble but the lines in the leaves were revealing the burn so i had to remove all fans. But her recovery is amazing.CAM00695-1.jpgThis her recovering nowCAM00744-1.jpg
 
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gardengardian7 said:
Yea i just went through the fire with my new girl and she did not appreciate it neither. I had her in the MGMC from seed and she was doing really good so i thought then out of the blue the leaves just began to not so much as crumble but the lines in the leaves were revealing the burn so i had to remove all fans. But her recovery is amazing.View attachment 3269378This her recovering nowView attachment 3269380
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I know this will stir up a hornets nest but; the use of miracle grow should be avoided
when it comes to cannabis it is just too hot! there is too much everything in it.
Cannabis during the first 3 weeks of life does not need that much nitrogen most
plain good quality potting soils have enough.
If you read through these forums the #1 thing associated with nute burn in seedlings
is the use of MG soils.
It is better to use Fox Farm, Roots, Espoma, ect. or any "organic" soil as opposed
to a soil that utilizes chemical fertilizers.
 
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gardengardian7

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oldman60 said:
I know this will stir up a hornets nest but; the use of miracle grow should be avoided
when it comes to cannabis it is just too hot! there is too much everything in it.
Cannabis during the first 3 weeks of life does not need that much nitrogen most
plain good quality potting soils have enough.
If you read through these forums the #1 thing associated with nute burn in seedlings
is the use of MG soils.
It is better to use Fox Farm, Roots, Espoma, ect. or any "organic" soil as opposed
to a soil that utilizes chemical fertilizers.
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Im totally agreeing with you. But you know its somthing about that soil though. Im wondering would it make good soil to flower or do an outdoor grow in?!
 
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