Couple Fined For Refusing To Host Gay Wedding Shuts Down Venue

[reasonevangelist]

When will it become a crime to openly discriminate against persons whose body fluids contain THC metabolites?

Hopefully soon.

 

[Ra$p0tin]

the real question is what is dumber?

religion or marriage ???

Isn't it religions that marry people? I think we missed the separation of church and state part here somewhere along the way.

 

[Ra$p0tin]

how often has that happened to you?

come play in reality for once.

Maybe you should practice what you preach.

 

[UncleBuck]

Maybe you should practice what you preach.

"i know you are but what am i"

another quality post from raspotin.

 

[jahbrudda]

What is it with some of you guys who feel the need to label everyone, I can't keep up with all these terms so what is a progressive socialist, is it like a neo-commie?
My point is, If the Bible is so important in the lives of these people why don't they from a moral and religious standpoint also deny service to adulterers ?
You say this is because they can't be identified, that's true but why aren't they vocal about it at least, reason being is that they don't give a shit, they just want an enemy, the fucked up religious doctrine they swallow teaches them that they are surrounded by evil, there's always danger, God said blah blah etc etc.
The people who are defending such businesses should put their energy into something productive that benefits all of society instead of this divisive crap that benefits no one in the long run.

Where does the business owners civil rights stop?
I'm not defending Christians by any means, I'm defending liberty.
If a gay couple owned a business, and they refused to serve bible thumpers, I would defend their right not to serve.

 

[jahbrudda]

that's because adultery is something you choose to do, not something you're born as.

Do you have ant empirical evidence to support your claim?
Citation needed.

 

[UncleBuck]

Do you have ant empirical evidence to support your claim?
Citation needed.

i have absolutely no evidence of someone being born already married and having sex with someone who is not their spouse. do you?

 

[UncleBuck]

Where does the business owners civil rights stop?

the shop owner has the exact same civil rights as the gays they are trying to deny service to. they may not be discriminated against due to their sexuality as well.

 

[jahbrudda]

the shop owner has the exact same civil rights as the gays they are trying to deny service to. they may not be discriminated against due to their sexuality as well.

The minute the government forces a Christian owned business to transact with gays, the government impeded their 1st amendment right to freely exercise their religion and their freedom of speech.

 

[AlecTheGardener]

The minute the government forces a Christian owned business to transact with gays, the government impeded their 1st amendment right to freely exercise their religion and their freedom of speech.

They should consider making their business a private club.

 

[UncleBuck]

The minute the government forces a Christian owned business to transact with gays, the government impeded their 1st amendment right to freely exercise their religion and their freedom of speech.

nope.

freedom of religion does not mean freedom to impose your religious beliefs on others in the public sphere.

 

[jahbrudda]

nope.

freedom of religion does not mean freedom to impose your religious beliefs on others in the public sphere.

You don't know the constitution very well, do you.
Christian business owners do not force gay customers to conduct business with them, it is the other way around.
Gay couples have choices to go elsewhere.

 

[jahbrudda]

They should consider making their business a private club.

Why, it's a private business.
Maybe the gay couple should look for a gay business

 

[ChesusRice]

♪ ♫
It's a Nice day for a Gay wedding ♪ ♫

 

[UncleBuck]

You don't know the constitution very well, do you.
Christian business owners do not force gay customers to conduct business with them, it is the other way around.
Gay couples have choices to go elsewhere.

just like the blacks could have gone elsewhere, eh?

 

[jahbrudda]

just like the blacks could have gone elsewhere, eh?

Yes sir, some of them but there are more white business owners that would gladly serve blacks that turn them away.
Just like a black business owner should not be forced to do business with white people if that is what they choose.

It all comes down to who promotes totalitarianism and who does not.

 

[reasonevangelist]

So, essentially, it's illegal to treat someone differently due to disliking them... as long as whatever you dislike, is not within that person's capacity to change.

Therefore, everything that is a person's choice, is fair game?

If you choose something i dislike for any reason, i'm allowed to discriminate against you?

 

[AlecTheGardener]

Why, it's a private business.
Maybe the gay couple should look for a gay business

Maybe they live in anchorage Alaska and the only shop is THAT one, the one with the homophobic couple that refuse to serve them.

Perfectly reasonable that they are forced to find service from another REMOTE RURAL location.

No, no it isn't.

If the couple feel that they need to force their religion on their public clientele they should switch to a private club, this allows all sorts of activity that would otherwise be illegal if the business operated otherwise.

It really is a great idea, I fail to understand why converting to a club doesn't satisfy your need.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes sir, some of them but there are more white business owners that would gladly serve blacks that turn them away.
Just like a black business owner should not be forced to do business with white people if that is what they choose.

It all comes down to who promotes totalitarianism and who does not.

so you want to deny service to people because they are gay or black, but it's the other side that's promoting totalitarianism?

makes perfect sense.

 

[jahbrudda]

Maybe they live in anchorage Alaska and the only shop is THAT one, the one with the homophobic couple that refuse to serve them.

Perfectly reasonable that they are forced to find service from another REMOTE RURAL location.

No, no it isn't.

If the couple feel that they need to force their religion on their public clientele they should switch to a private club, this allows all sorts of activity that would otherwise be illegal if the business operated otherwise.

It really is a great idea, I fail to understand why converting to a club doesn't satisfy your need.

Why doesn't the gay couple join a club or shop online?
Come on, we all know why. The gay couple are trying to get publicity and force their agenda on everyone else, to deny this is a lie.\ and you know it.