A proper full melt dry sift tutorial. This time the right way.

MnH

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I didn't say anything at the other site I haven't said here.. all I want is clarification on WHY and WHAT is going on.. not watch a 40 ish minute video to ask the exact same questions afterwards anyways.

He has acknowledged he doesn't know what the mesh was made of, why it works, what's going on, he's only done it twice, but has done 'really dirty sift' even though he hasn't, it was simply the 'leftovers' of what he was already using, meaning no green matter to speak of essentially. It's misleading when he claims it works 100% because it does not.

People are having issues getting it to work anywhere what was claimed and after TWICE I would think somebody would be a bit more forgiving when constructive criticism comes their way. If you admit you've only done it -twice- you have absolutely zero room to be mad, annoyed, upset, or anything of that nature towards somebody asking real world and legit questions.

Just because uramag hadn't thought of any of this, hadn't researched it, hadn't done his homework, doesn't make me the bad guy here. I went through the same thing on MULTIPLE forums, and still have to explain my tek to people and that it *really* can be done in that short a period of time.. except I was able to explain what was going on and why and answer questions if asked.

Personally, if it were me, i'd do something hundreds, if not thousands of times before I went online and claimed up and down it was the method that was going to 'knock somebody off their dry sift throne' etc.etc. or whatever ridiculous shit he told me LOL.. I post actively on TWO forums, my IG and FB.. that's it. I think i'm the king of dry sifting? Lol, that's somebody else, not me brobeans, hate to break it to you.

Now maybe we can move on being we know it works decently.
 

Blunter the kid

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I didn't say anything at the other site I haven't said here.. all I want is clarification on WHY and WHAT is going on.. not watch a 40 ish minute video to ask the exact same questions afterwards anyways.

He has acknowledged he doesn't know what the mesh was made of, why it works, what's going on, he's only done it twice, but has done 'really dirty sift' even though he hasn't, it was simply the 'leftovers' of what he was already using, meaning no green matter to speak of essentially. It's misleading when he claims it works 100% because it does not.

People are having issues getting it to work anywhere what was claimed and after TWICE I would think somebody would be a bit more forgiving when constructive criticism comes their way. If you admit you've only done it -twice- you have absolutely zero room to be mad, annoyed, upset, or anything of that nature towards somebody asking real world and legit questions.

Just because uramag hadn't thought of any of this, hadn't researched it, hadn't done his homework, doesn't make me the bad guy here. I went through the same thing on MULTIPLE forums, and still have to explain my tek to people and that it *really* can be done in that short a period of time.. except I was able to explain what was going on and why and answer questions if asked.

Personally, if it were me, i'd do something hundreds, if not thousands of times before I went online and claimed up and down it was the method that was going to 'knock somebody off their dry sift throne' etc.etc. or whatever ridiculous shit he told me LOL.. I post actively on TWO forums, my IG and FB.. that's it. I think i'm the king of dry sifting? Lol, that's somebody else, not me brobeans, hate to break it to you.

Now maybe we can move on being we know it works decently.
Did u miss the part where I quoted uramag?
What I said was directed at him.
 

Daub Marley

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Yeah I agree with you MnH, but he posted it for others to replicate and figure out. You were just kind of harsh with your responses is all.
I think I have a good idea of what's going on scientifically (hypothesis), and would be glad to explain/discuss anything about it more in-depth if anyone needs.
 

Blunter the kid

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Yeah I agree with you MnH, but he posted it for others to replicate and figure out. You were just kind of harsh with your responses is all.
I think I have a good idea of what's going on scientifically (hypothesis), and would be glad to explain/discuss anything about it more in-depth if anyone needs.
I would enjoy listening to your hypothesis :)
 

Daub Marley

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I would enjoy listening to your hypothesis :)
When you brush it around everything (heads, stalks, and any other contaminants) will acquire a negative static charge. They are stuck to the screen but repelled away from each other. When you scrape over the material it causes it dislocate away from the screen and cling to the neutral paper. The heads being spherical get held in the holes and the stalks and stuff get stuck to the paper. It works to separate out the contaminants not the heads.
 

Daub Marley

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So the stuff on the paper is the contaiminants not the heads? Damn his stuff must of been really nice in the video.. lol
Yes sir. There will be two bands on the paper. The one in front will be the same mix as the rest, but the one on the back will be almost all contaminants.
 

MnH

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^^ That sounds like the opposite of what he was showing doesn't it? It looked as if what he was 'brushing off' was his high quality stuff?
 

WarMachine

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^^ That sounds like the opposite of what he was showing doesn't it? It looked as if what he was 'brushing off' was his high quality stuff?
That's what I thought too.. His containments looked really good in that case lol
 

Daub Marley

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^^ That sounds like the opposite of what he was showing doesn't it? It looked as if what he was 'brushing off' was his high quality stuff?
Yeah it is the opposite. If you keep scraping the stuff from the front it will continue to get cleaner, so the way he was showing was the long way around. The stuff he starts off with is really clean so its hard to tell what is going on, but my stuff was super dirty so I immediately noticed a green band and figured out it was the contaminants being pulled out most effectively not the heads. Try it out though and see what works best for you.
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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So DSW I hope you are not sick or something I was really counting on seeing you as well as finally experiencing your dry sieve outside the realm of macro photo.
My offer stand, anytime this month if you are up to it
It is logical Daub that the contaminants are pulled first since they are lighter than the trichomes heads.
 

MnH

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Much like the other 3 or 4 threads on other forums you commented on, I shook you hand twice on Saturday afternoon and you had no idea, even though I was talking about the very tests your friend contacted me about.
 

Fazer1rlg

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Hey thanks for posting this tutorial MnH. What 2 sizes screens do you use for this? Also what is the yield like on a ounce of high quality frosty trimmings?
 

MnH

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Frazerrig you're welcome. The sizes I use are much different from anyone else and not what you'd typically see for dry sifting.

They are closer to 'work bag' status if you will like for ice wax/bubble. So somewhere in the ~200u area both of them.

Texas it's being setup through email.
 

Daub Marley

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I shook you hand twice on Saturday afternoon and you had no idea, even though I was talking about the very tests your friend contacted me about.
So you didn't introduce yourself, but started talking about the tests and assumed he would know who you were?
TBH it shouldn't matter because if you both live close enough to visit the cup then you could just meet up again another time, and that way it doesn't have to be in front of a ton of people.
 

MnH

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We spent hours talking on the plane ride back from Denver.. yes he sees tons of people everyday but i'd have thought he doesn't have tons of people come up and say they're glad to be working side by side and taking notes/etc. in the future and are stoked on that blah blah..

I'd venture to guess i'm the only one with that status atm. But I could be wrong.. there could be hundreds of them out there and i'm just overthinking things.

Shrug. Either way it'll happen, so i'm not really worried about it like he seems to be lol.

I did introduce myself, just not as 'dry sift wizard' or whatever because I feel like a fucking idiot. We're people use your goddamn real name lol. Maybe next time i'll just have to say that I suppose.
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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Much like the other 3 or 4 threads on other forums you commented on, I shook you hand twice on Saturday afternoon and you had no idea, even though I was talking about the very tests your friend contacted me about.
Yes I am calling you out because you talk much, show a lot of pics and did not show the good this week-end despite stopping at Aficionado and having a bowl of my Hash. I had a few hundreds people queuing in front of me over the week-end and no I did not recognize you, I have seen you just that one time in April for 2 hours, so what about introducing yourself.
I did not talk about lab test to anybody but Steep Hill chief research officer and sclabs lead scientist.
As my private message on ICMag state please forget I ever asked you for anything and do not bring it up back.
There is no next time, I do not want to have anything to do with you.
I have a standing invitation from Bubbleman and will be able to find other dry sieve artists in Cali that are interested in my project.
Thank you very much!
 

MnH

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I may talk, but I showed my tutorial and dozens of pictures from others who also had good luck.

You talk, but don't post any of your sift pictures and have admitted to never even checking it under a loupe or scope.. for somebody who preaches 'science' and demands such things from people like SamSkunkman having never read what he's already posted, I find it tough to believe you actually act the way you do having no proof yourself of even a basic dry sift.. c'mon..

That's just... lol...

Proof > no proof.

And awesome job on working with bubbleman. Maybe he can do my method wrong a few more times like he does on his ridiculous videos that are full of misinformation.

I was told you'd back out, too.. I am going to assume you couldn't replicate my results in the allotted 15 seconds or so. It's ok.. the VHS was cool while it lasted.

I understand why the industry wants this to not get out, too.. it's going to change everything for dry sifting once it's widely available.

Sad to see such a 'hashishin' like yourself so opposed to learning something new.
 
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Frenchy Cannoli

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You actually made me laugh on that one. You have a wonderful and unique technique that I really do not care to to replicate, I just want to lab test different techniques which is something that has not been done, nothing more!
You really do not get it so can we keep it at that and would you just forget about me.
 
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