bassman999
Well-Known Member
I missed the tea part.
I tried to do organic before and it turned out bad.
Sorry I couldnt be any help
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I tried to do organic before and it turned out bad.
Sorry I couldnt be any help
GreenDyl
Active Member
Its all good homie! ill figure it out. Thinking about switching to RDWC and using H&G
GreenMountain71
Member
Need to put a spacer in your ebb & gro buckets so the roots are not sitting in the stagnant water.(I used PVC to make little stands) I also add air stones to the Rez and controller. Go pick up some h2o2. Cleans the roots up nice. How bad are the roots hanging out the pots? Are they going in the lines?
GreenMountain71
Member
After I transplant into the ebb monster I start first res @560 ppms for first week then raise to 700, 800 (water @135ppms). Ph 5.5 to 5.8. I hardly ever use ph up or down. Only if ph is above 6 and I don't have time to change the res.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
@greendyl
from what in reading i thing your using the tea rong! Your adding every 2 weeks?
if so by the time you add new tea the old bacteria is dead! Even though you might
do a res change every 2 weeks this is not the only time to add the tea.
correct way to add tea resipe........
#1 brew a tea close to hienbergs resipe
#2 mix a fresh res
#3 add 1gal. Of tea to every 10gal. Of res water to start off. Never exceed 3gal. In a 55gal drum.
#4 every 3 days add 1cup tea to every 10gals res water.
reason for adding tea throughout the 2week res cycle is to add new micro life and feed the old
micro life as they need food to.
Your water temp is fine allthough i wouldnt go any higher, the left water in the buckets is getting
cooked by the light and causing funk to spread to your substra
Zone or h202 will kill off and good you have created with teas! Simple fix to the left water in your buckets is to
just raise them 1 1/2in above the control box. Allowing the water to drain back to the res where you want it.
you will not get 100% of the water but 90% is better then nothing.
Just putting a spacer in the bucket to raise it up is a fast fix but the roots will grow down into the left water
again.
as for air......
at the peak of my ebb and grow years i was running x6 55gal. Ebb drums and 3 were rig up
with 45l air pumps to each and the other 3 were just being turned by a small pump. Seen no
difference between the 2, allthough the one that i was turning i could add alot more stuff to
without it getting all funky. Air can aggitate some products and cause foam and junk to form.
from what in reading i thing your using the tea rong! Your adding every 2 weeks?
if so by the time you add new tea the old bacteria is dead! Even though you might
do a res change every 2 weeks this is not the only time to add the tea.
correct way to add tea resipe........
#1 brew a tea close to hienbergs resipe
#2 mix a fresh res
#3 add 1gal. Of tea to every 10gal. Of res water to start off. Never exceed 3gal. In a 55gal drum.
#4 every 3 days add 1cup tea to every 10gals res water.
reason for adding tea throughout the 2week res cycle is to add new micro life and feed the old
micro life as they need food to.
Your water temp is fine allthough i wouldnt go any higher, the left water in the buckets is getting
cooked by the light and causing funk to spread to your substra
Zone or h202 will kill off and good you have created with teas! Simple fix to the left water in your buckets is to
just raise them 1 1/2in above the control box. Allowing the water to drain back to the res where you want it.
you will not get 100% of the water but 90% is better then nothing.
Just putting a spacer in the bucket to raise it up is a fast fix but the roots will grow down into the left water
again.
as for air......
at the peak of my ebb and grow years i was running x6 55gal. Ebb drums and 3 were rig up
with 45l air pumps to each and the other 3 were just being turned by a small pump. Seen no
difference between the 2, allthough the one that i was turning i could add alot more stuff to
without it getting all funky. Air can aggitate some products and cause foam and junk to form.
bassman999
Well-Known Member
Mine is foamy from air and Zone.
I found some black stuff on top of foam, and it smears in my fingers.
I assume some sore of bacteria.
I guess Ill skim off the foam from now on
I found some black stuff on top of foam, and it smears in my fingers.
I assume some sore of bacteria.
I guess Ill skim off the foam from now on
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
If a bottled product is the route you want to take pondzyme with barley is a better answer then zone
bassman999
Well-Known Member
Pondzyme, I never heard of it, but Ill look it up.
Ok looked it up.
So can I use Floralicious Plus with this?
I noticed a nice increase in resins when growing in Sunshine Mix 4 using this, but was afraid to use it in hydro.
GreenDyl
Active Member
@hellraiser I top feed the tea I feel like top feeding any kind of microbe tea is way more effective. I run prime from H16 which the bennies can feed off. I don't have a problem with algae so it's more of a preventative then anything. I think my root rot issue arose from only watering 2 times a day so the temps in the bucket would get to 77 and become stagnant. I run 4x 55 gallon systems though hellraiser so I feel you. What are your guys watering schedules like? I use the Oceanus 4 gal blue buckets. Also has anyone tried wrapping these in Mylar?
bassman999
Well-Known Member
Would the tea still be effective as a foliar?
I am afraid of an active res still at this point.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Would be super effective for plant health and pathagens above the substra level
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Feed cycles
With rock as a medium x3 to 4 depending on how fast there growing
with growdan 50% absorbant 50% repelant x2 to x3
many years of exp with these setups have shown getting the water out of
the lines is 100% key!
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
You can use pondzyme with about any nute company out there!
now would i run flora plus in a ebb..........(hell no lol)
GreenDyl
Active Member
Is there a way to get the lines mostly clear? lifting the buckets really isn't draining it enough for me man. And yeah I'm using hydroton as a medium so maybe Ill switch it too 4x a day.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
If the control bucket is 1 1/2in to 2in bellow the buckets level it should drain out no problem
GreenDyl
Active Member
I have it set up on 2x4s. Did you ever use the oceanus 4 gal buckets?
bassman999
Well-Known Member
5 days after res change and it smells like a barn in the res now...the DM Zone doesnt work, or maybe I have to add it more often...
I think I am going back to soilless after this run.
I cant keep flushing this shit every 4-6 days.
Roots hanging out the inner pots look bright white still at least
I think I am going back to soilless after this run.
I cant keep flushing this shit every 4-6 days.
Roots hanging out the inner pots look bright white still at least
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Products like h202 or zone even bleach...dont kill 100% of bad bactiria! Only way is good bactiria vs bad.