Landlord open to growing, need help proving to him it is legal!!!! Please help

[camdengolf]

So I probably have a grow site now which is dope, but all I need to do is show him/prove to him it is all legal. How do I go about this? Will my med card do the trick? I want him to be very convinced because it is legal. By the way Im in orange county, ca

 

[Southerner]

Yeah, show him your card and maybe print up the relevant state laws with the important things highlighted or something. The tricky problem is that it is still illegal with the federal gov't and so some landlords(rightfully so) get nervous that they could lose their property or worse when the risks of that are really minimal as long as you work within the legal parameters of the MMJ system-- especially in California. You need to show him your card and make sure you show that you are are knowledgeable enough to be taking the proper steps to maintain his investment(the house). This is especially true for starting an indoor grow where you need to work on keeping humidity levels below mold thresholds, keeping the space generally clean and tidy, as well as adding air scent filtration if you both think it is necessary for security; you don't want a stinky house that will pull in curious noses. You also want to make sure you have electrician who knows what the hell they are doing if you are installing HID lights.

Just approach it like you care and it should work out if the guy is open to it in the first place.

 

[keysareme]

Another say for having a printout of your rec, & health and safety code 11362.5 - prop 215 in a plastic sheet covering or laminated.

 

[vostok]

As above, but I'd down play 'the grow inside and HPS stuff'

 

[MedicatedGrow]

One badass landlord that is.
I had one that didn't care that we grew legal or not, he just looked the other way or smiled when he saw them at the last weeks of flowering.

This guy is down with growing though? thats sweet. That would be my next best friend, he got the property, I got the skills, lets get growing!

 

[Kanaplya]

Go to Department of Public Health of OC, ask about medical marijuana state id (call first actually - it's by appointment only), bring your doctor's recommendation with you. They will make copies and take your photo (and $171 or something). And 3+ weeks later they will call you to pick up the card. State card works better than just doctor's rec because it means the state of California has reviewed your recommendation and confirmed your status. If your landlord doesn't accept that - you might be able to sue him, lol

 

[BSD0621]

I don't care if legal or not, NO ONE shall know I am growing... it's asking for troubles

 

[althor]

I don't care if legal or not, NO ONE shall know I am growing... it's asking for troubles

If you are growing on someone else's property, the responsible thing to do is what the OP has done.
If he wants to risk himself, that is his business, when you start risking other people, then you have crossed the line.

 

[camdengolf]

Thanks for all the replies. Had to renew my rec anyways so I went down and did that but I got a cultivator's license so I can have up to 99 plants. So sweet. And they gave me all the paperwork I need to show my friend, the landlord.

 

[Cascadian]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if the house burns down and the cause is found to be the grow/lights/etc the insurance company will not cover the loss. If the loss is as a result of breaking the law it is not a covered loss. That means state or federal law. It sucks but you know how insurance companies work, any way they can wiggle out of paying for a loss they will do it. Take that for what you want and make your own call on it. Peace, and good luck

 

[MedicatedGrow]

Get a few auto fire extinguishers and you should be good.

I bought one just to test it (was a cheap one that covered a 2x2 area) and it worked great, once the fire reached optimum heat it blew up and took out the fire like a pro.

 

[althor]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if the house burns down and the cause is found to be the grow/lights/etc the insurance company will not cover the loss. If the loss is as a result of breaking the law it is not a covered loss. That means state or federal law. It sucks but you know how insurance companies work, any way they can wiggle out of paying for a loss they will do it. Take that for what you want and make your own call on it. Peace, and good luck

Which is exactly why it is important to have your landlord's permission.

 

[twostrokenut]

Go to Department of Public Health of OC, ask about medical marijuana state id (call first actually - it's by appointment only), bring your doctor's recommendation with you. They will make copies and take your photo (and $171 or something). And 3+ weeks later they will call you to pick up the card. State card works better than just doctor's rec because it means the state of California has reviewed your recommendation and confirmed your status. If your landlord doesn't accept that - you might be able to sue him, lol

You can not sue your landlord for not allowing you to grow in California under any circumstances.

This is true even if your lease agreement does not contain the "must comply with all state and federal laws" tidbit.

OP you got a cool landlord, show him/her your docs and keep a laminated copy in your 6 plant garden...you're going to need 17 of them on display for 99 flowering plants.... that should suffice to for you to be cool as he/she seems to be. I had a landlord that was cool long as I comped him a zip or so once in a while....keep it cool.

 

[oceanside]

also let him know we have a democrat in the white house who doesnt care if people grow diminutive amounts of pot

 

[Kanaplya]

I am no lawyer but I know that the state laws that govern lender/tenant issues and under state law it is medication. Show me where someone gets denied lease due to their adderall prescription. In fact, your medical history is none of the landlords business, right? Not saying you're wrong but can you see how in a country where pretty much anyone sue anyone for anything this presents a pretty good rights case? Even in a landlord put into the lease agreement something about 'no weed' rule, I don't see why someone wouldn't challenge it as unconstitutional.

 

[twostrokenut]

I am no lawyer but I know that the state laws that govern lender/tenant issues and under state law it is medication. Show me where someone gets denied lease due to their adderall prescription. In fact, your medical history is none of the landlords business, right? Not saying you're wrong but can you see how in a country where pretty much anyone sue anyone for anything this presents a pretty good rights case? Even in a landlord put into the lease agreement something about 'no weed' rule, I don't see why someone wouldn't challenge it as unconstitutional.

I get what you are saying and I actually do agree it should be that way but no lease is denied for an adderall prescription because its not a federal crime to have a prescription to adderall.

There are no prescriptions for marijuana here in Cali either, only doctor recommendations.

I speak from experience here I have seen tenants get the boot even when the landlord gave permission, then determined the grow to be too big. The Constitution in this case would uphold the property rights of the actual owner, not the medical rights of the tenant at the possible expense of the owners property.

 

[Kanaplya]

I get what you are saying and I actually do agree it should be that way but no lease is denied for an adderall prescription because its not a federal crime to have a prescription to adderall.

There are no prescriptions for marijuana here in Cali either, only doctor recommendations.

I speak from experience here I have seen tenants get the boot even when the landlord gave permission, then determined the grow to be too big. The Constitution in this case would uphold the property rights of the actual owner, not the medical rights of the tenant at the possible expense of the owners property.

I don't know about tenant laws beyond how to get my deposit back, lol, but as far as no prescription only recommendation - what I wrote above about the CA state patient card, that exactly what it is - the state checks and recognizes your doctor's recommendation and makes you 'official' on state level. You get a patient card from the state of CA. At that point you are protected directly under the state laws. That should have some weight. Don't think there have been any CA Superior Court cases on this particular issue but sooner or later there will be.

 

[twostrokenut]

I don't know about tenant laws beyond how to get my deposit back, lol, but as far as no prescription only recommendation - what I wrote above about the CA state patient card, that exactly what it is - the state checks and recognizes your doctor's recommendation and makes you 'official' on state level. You get a patient card from the state of CA. At that point you are protected directly under the state laws. That should have some weight. Don't think there have been any CA Superior Court cases on this particular issue but sooner or later there will be.

And that would be a sad day for the Constitution. A tenants right to screw up my house and possibly get it federally seized would not trump my right to my property.

I can deny a tenant just for looking funny, that's the owners right just as it is a store's right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Even if the state make you more official sounding with a state card as opposed to a county ID, at the end of the day I have final say as to who does what on my property. For example you don't have the right to overload my breaker box or rewire my setup to suit your medical needs. I don't have to widen my doors or re-equip my bathroom if you are in a wheelchair....same difference but the nail in the coffin is that its not a federal crime to be in a wheelchair.



I believe everyone has the right to grow I truly do....everyone has the right to do anything that doesn't infringe on anothers rights....you have the right to purchase your own home and do what ever in it I would never advocate against that....once you have purchased your own home you have the right to rent it out, under your own stipulations just as the video store puts parameters on what you can and cant do with their movie.


At the end of the day you need to either have your landlord's permission or keep it on the DL.

The Federal card can be played at any time.

 

[althor]

^ In my area, if a landlord takes on a tenant who is in a wheelchair, they are required to have a ramp for them. I build them regularly.

 

[twostrokenut]

That's awesome that the landlord would go out of his way like that, not having to. I wonder if the construction is subsidized federally?